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Gameplay => Wish list => Topic started by: Dameon on January 22, 2004, 08:48:45 pm

Title: Concerning Weapons/Tria
Post by: Dameon on January 22, 2004, 08:48:45 pm
Hello,

A few of the Circle brougt up a good point on something acraig said... that Rubies will become Tria, and all our weapons will be deleted. I was thinking this was kind of harsh because we paid a lot of rubies to get these weapons. Could the devs make a part of the merchant page that allows people to sell back their weapons, replacing them with rubies/tria instead?
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Post by: acraig on January 22, 2004, 09:07:07 pm
If you can find somebody willing to work on the merchant page to do this then I don\'t see any problem but I don\'t think any of us can spare the time to do this at the moment.  If anybody is *serious* about doing this then contact Talad on IRC to ask him.  If he agrees I can give them the merchant.php script to look at.
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Post by: Xordan on January 22, 2004, 09:45:35 pm
Shouldn\'t be a problem for me 2 do. I\'ll give it a go if I can get the script.
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Post by: Kiern on January 22, 2004, 10:00:27 pm
Damn...I really need to learn how to do these things...anyone want to come work for me so I can? :P
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Post by: Dameon on January 22, 2004, 10:09:13 pm
I started teaching myself php, and it isn\'t hard... its just the MySQL or any other database thing that I don\'t get.
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Post by: Xordan on January 22, 2004, 10:17:26 pm
yuh, I been doing mySQL/php for ages. It\'s tricky when u start off but once u get used to it, it\'s easy. A bit like an FPS. :D
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Post by: Kixie on January 22, 2004, 10:39:00 pm
frankly i would rather see everyone just loose everything and everyone start with nothing. that would make more sense. Everyone starting this version equally is the best way to go...
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Post by: Xordan on January 22, 2004, 10:57:01 pm
lol, it won\'t make that much difference in-game. Yes, for the first month... but how much do u think say a few 100(0) tria would make over a long period?? Not much. It just keeps people happy.
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Post by: Keitac2000 on January 23, 2004, 02:27:51 am
why start equally? this way we can find bugs faster.  there will always be new people joining, are you gonna ask everyone be wiped every week so the new people can be on equal footing?
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Post by: Phinehas on January 23, 2004, 02:41:53 am
Yes, yes, that was what whemy was asking. (Glad I could clarify that for you.)
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Post by: Kixie on January 23, 2004, 02:46:53 am
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Originally posted by Keitac2000
why start equally? this way we can find bugs faster.  there will always be new people joining, are you gonna ask everyone be wiped every week so the new people can be on equal footing?


NO im asking for everyone to start equally which means everyone starts with nothing. they find things and fight monsters and make their goods. in no way should we have freebies. even if they were from past versions they are still freebies.
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Post by: saberknight on January 23, 2004, 03:18:14 am
so you want all char information wiped after every version upgrade then no budy would play there would be no point every one would waiting for a final release to start playing and besides it wouldn\'t be fair to the people who has supported this project dev or just someone active in the game and forums i may be a little new to the ps forums but i know when people are getting the shaft
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Post by: acraig on January 23, 2004, 03:54:15 am
Well, in this case almost the entire database structure has changed which makes migrating from one database to a new one much harder since all the tables have changed.  I am hoping that once we figure out the \'correct\' structure then the database tables will not change as much from version to version and migrating will be much easier.
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Post by: Kixie on January 23, 2004, 04:27:28 am
didnt you get the memo saberknight? the plan the devs have in mind is completely wiped out accounts. theres just so much new stuff you cant transfer a whole lot. thats the plan anyways it could always change but just about everyone agrees that we will probally have new accounts. but what im saying is we should have nothing when we start CRYSTAL BLUE. If we can transfer stuff from crystal blue to the next version after that then sure why not. but even then our accounts might get wiped again because there might be very high level characters already in game.
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Post by: davo on January 23, 2004, 04:31:37 am
its not like it would matter anyways cause weapons are going to be a lot cheaper and affordable so it wouldnt be so bad if you lose them.
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Post by: Savion on January 23, 2004, 04:37:44 am
Savion thinks that the Devs already decided on this... now Dameon *gag* wants to find a way to keep his crystals in his greedy little hands.
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Post by: lynx_lupo on January 23, 2004, 09:19:52 am
Materialists! X(

Full wipe would be the most equalling, but letting oldbies have some of their crystals is good too(a show of appreciation). And I mean some - I\'d cap it at a certain amount.
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Post by: sashok on January 23, 2004, 09:48:24 am
I think dedicated players should at least keep their name, but that was discussed already... right?
is there some way you devs check how much time players spend?  for example, everyone who spent 100 hours playing this and above will get to keep their name, other\'s  NO :)
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Post by: Kixie on January 23, 2004, 01:49:31 pm
maybe we should all get super cool crystals for being oldies in the game. that way when this is a kick ass full game noobies will be like \"aww how come you have that awesome crystal?\" and then when the noobs get pretty good with lots of money we can sell the crystals for like 100,000,000 tria.. :P
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Post by: Savion on January 23, 2004, 03:38:19 pm
Best Idea Ever! Instead keeping money and weapons, olbies get a unique item!
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Post by: Keitac2000 on January 23, 2004, 03:58:43 pm
ok, now you just contradicted your self, you want a wipe so that it is an equal playing ground, and yet you are lobbying that preexisting people get stuff no one will have at the time.  

i\'m fine with a wipe, but not just because the playing feild needs to be evened up.
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Post by: Savion on January 23, 2004, 04:35:08 pm
Well, the contradiction will make sense after this...

There is a total whipe... good. Now all the old players get a special item that has no value and cannot be sold / traded, so that way it is no benefit, but just a cool thing to have that not many people will.
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Post by: Skizzik on January 23, 2004, 10:12:48 pm
I personally think it\'s a good idea since it\'ll also allow bugs that would normally be found later in game to be found earlier.
Some people (that refer to themselves in 3rd person) seem to have forgotten that we\'re all alpha/beta testers.
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Post by: Savion on January 23, 2004, 10:20:47 pm
You can be a tester and enjoy the game too can\'t you?
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Post by: Kixie on January 23, 2004, 10:24:51 pm
yes i have reported lots of bugs. but i still enjoy the game too.
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Post by: Junilia on January 24, 2004, 12:20:49 pm
so what are the dedicated players going to get? if we dont get anything tell us so we can do something else with our time X( If we do then yay we didnt waste our time trying to help the devs! :D

not really waste time because we enjoyed ourself? :) Also we met new people! So what are we keeping or getting i want something!

PS: its not my fault im greedy :D
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Post by: Dameon on January 26, 2004, 04:10:20 am
I heard that you finished Xordan. Is is available to the public now?
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Post by: Kixie on January 26, 2004, 04:22:08 am
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Originally posted by Junilia
so what are the dedicated players going to get? if we dont get anything tell us so we can do something else with our time X( If we do then yay we didnt waste our time trying to help the devs! :D

not really waste time because we enjoyed ourself? :) Also we met new people! So what are we keeping or getting i want something!

PS: its not my fault im greedy :D


You are one of the worst beta testers i have ever seen. Beta testing is supposed to be enjoyable not because you will get something in return but because the developers are allowing you to see a game years in advance and help mold it into a wonderfull game. Beta testing is a privilage not a right nor a reward from doing something. You have dont nothing to earn the right to play this game and your expecting something in return? And you will even go so far as to call it a waste of time. You sicken me with your selfish wanting and childlike way of explaining what you find as your morals. Everyday i am glad i get to beta test a game like planeshift and everyday I am thankfull for what the devs are doing, but at the same time I am disgusted at the selfish greed, and childish ways of some of the beta testers here on this forum. Treating the devs more like slaves than friends and in my oppinion saviors is what they should be recognized. Saviors developing a jewel in a land of coal that is mmorpgs. And what makes this jewel even brighter is that it cost not one cent. So if you feel you should be getting something in return you \"time\" why dont you go complain to Everquest and see what they give you?

Hehe im sorry im so overdramatic something came over me to write a good post....
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Post by: Dameon on January 26, 2004, 04:58:54 am
Well, you used the word Beta a lot... the game is not even beta man. I heard that the devs put a lot of thought on how to do this without getting people too upset and this is the way they found

Rubies-> Tria
Weapons -> Deleted
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Post by: Kixie on January 26, 2004, 05:02:44 am
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Originally posted by Dameon
Well, you used the word Beta a lot... the game is not even beta man. I heard that the devs put a lot of thought on how to do this without getting people too upset and this is the way they found

Rubies-> Tria
Weapons -> Deleted


yes i am aware of that. check the post i posted numerous times there. but anyways i throw around the word beta becase alpha usually implies somthing before a tech demo IMHO
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Post by: seperot on January 26, 2004, 01:26:48 pm
yea xord is it done yet?
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Post by: lynx_lupo on January 26, 2004, 01:59:33 pm
Yes, it\'s done.  ;(
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Post by: Ald'Amun Dungeonrunner on January 26, 2004, 05:00:15 pm
This probably sounds like a stupid question because it probably is but when you say rubies-> tria, does that mean rubies-> tria and the other are worth more or is it just that emeralds and diamonds=BALETED!...?...yeah.
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Post by: Keitac2000 on January 26, 2004, 06:37:48 pm
we assume the rubies will be tria and emmies and dia will be hexa and octa accordingly
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Post by: Taldor on January 26, 2004, 07:06:05 pm
Accordingly to their relative values:
Ruby => Tria
Emmy => Hexa
Dia => 2 Octa\'s
For more information go to http://www.planeshift.it/setting_economy.html
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Post by: Xordan on January 26, 2004, 07:35:49 pm
Yes, the script is 100% complete.
acraig is testing it soon, and I hope it\'ll be up and running by the end of the week. :D
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Post by: Draklar on January 26, 2004, 07:37:19 pm
I think it should be
ruby --> metal coin
emerald --> tria (coin made of green mineral)
diamond --> hexa (coin made of light blue mineral)
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Post by: Xordan on January 26, 2004, 07:40:12 pm
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Originally posted by Draklar
I think it should be
ruby --> metal coin
emerald --> tria (coin made of green mineral)
diamond --> hexa (coin made of light blue mineral)


yuh, that would be much better. :D

Plz note that the script can only transfer your weapons to diamonds! :D
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Post by: Kixie on January 27, 2004, 05:03:33 am
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Originally posted by Xordan
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Originally posted by Draklar
I think it should be
ruby --> metal coin
emerald --> tria (coin made of green mineral)
diamond --> hexa (coin made of light blue mineral)


yuh, that would be much better. :D

Plz note that the script can only transfer your weapons to diamonds! :D


OOOOOOOOOOOH im so excited...
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Post by: Junilia on January 30, 2004, 09:21:57 am
hmm that should work we dont get too much so not too much of an advantage  and we dont get nothing too  We get much much more than nothing:D
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You are one of the worst beta testers i have ever seen. Beta testing is supposed to be enjoyable not because you will get something in return but because the developers are allowing you to see a game years in advance and help mold it into a wonderfull game. Beta testing is a privilage not a right nor a reward from doing something. You have dont nothing to earn the right to play this game and your expecting something in return? And you will even go so far as to call it a waste of time. You sicken me with your selfish wanting and childlike way of explaining what you find as your morals. Everyday i am glad i get to beta test a game like planeshift and everyday I am thankfull for what the devs are doing, but at the same time I am disgusted at the selfish greed, and childish ways of some of the beta testers here on this forum. Treating the devs more like slaves than friends and in my oppinion saviors is what they should be recognized. Saviors developing a jewel in a land of coal that is mmorpgs. And what makes this jewel even brighter is that it cost not one cent. So if you feel you should be getting something in return you \"time\" why dont you go complain to Everquest and see what they give you?


Worst Beta tester? What do you mean? I just want to get something from my crystals that i got... Also everybody else! It would also show the Devs aprieciation for the testers.

I think i said the things wrong :(

Selfish greed.. treating the devs as slaves... I feel strangely dirty. i guess i deserved the the tongue lashing

BTW nice words....
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Post by: KwartzTheKran on January 30, 2004, 10:38:57 am
edit: nm was about to look a fool =)
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Post by: Kixie on January 30, 2004, 06:32:56 pm
dont you always... :P lol im just jokin w/ ya kwartz TEH BEST Kran in teh World!..... Ahhh... I love sucking up... i think of it as an artform in which to express my feelings of sarcasm....