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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Zephyrus on January 27, 2004, 05:19:37 pm
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Well... where to begin; I have no time, and balancing everything and this guild is not easy/very much fun, plus I am not in game very much anymore... You need a better leader.
Basically what I am saying is I cant handle the guild anymore, but I don?t want it to just die, mostly because i know so many of you have invested time in drawing artworks, making flash movies and writing stories; you, the members of the guild are its strongest asset I, on the other hand am the weak link. So preferably one of you is willing to take over and manage the website and come up with ideas and occasionally make small sigs/logos on Photoshop? But if you aren?t then I am afraid the guild WILL close or merge or something.
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I don\'t understand you. Posting this here will only cause fuss and trouble. Surely you have guild forums(which are more visited)?
OnT: That\'s a very noble thing to do, if you find yourself uncapable! :tup: :diamond:
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NO ZEPH DONT LEAVE
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Its a great and noble thing of you to do. Step away from your throne to make room for an other, coz you are not capable any more.
Truly a wonderes thing to do!
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bah, you are one of very few that I thought of being good leader :/
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yeah well the guild isnt just mine so i am happy to step down...
I am just scared no one well step forward... otherwise the guild will either be left with the most inactive leader ever (me) or turned to dust...
And just because I am not leading anymore doesnt mean I am going anywhere Kylaksa except down in ranks i guess, lol.
And why did I post here as well as the guild forums? because if a leader isnt found in the guild then we will look outside the guild, and if one isnt found there then we may have to become a subsection of another guild or something equally wierd, and maybe even like the title says; close... That is why i posted here, because it may affect non guild members sooner or later
I am sorry to dissapoint you Draklar... life got in the way :(
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Too bad. Anyways, it\'s better for you (and us) to leave the leadership and offer it to someone else than just lettin\' the guild die. I don\'t really know who could be the new leader tho...
Well let\'s make it this way: Any candidates to be the new leader should speak now, and we shall decide voting, each one of us. If no candidates show up, then the guild members are free to join any other guild and the Mercenary Guild shall be dismissed permanently. Or we could merge it with any other Guild.
So... candidates?
(Btw how are we going to deal with the homepage now?)
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Sure, I\'ll be your leader!!!
:D :P Vote For Me!! :P :D
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Its a great and noble thing of you to do. Step away from your throne to make room for an other, coz you are not capable any more.
Truly a wonderes thing to do!
Exactly.
If you can\'t find an other leader: join BloodClaw Inc. I think we have very similar objectives:
Bloodclaw Inc. will create a happy and rich guild through manufacturing and retailing goods, and offering professional services - all at fair prices. We will operate a savings and loan company, engage in real estate sales and property management, participate in the stock market (and help to create one if it does not exist), provide professional consulting in many areas including business, manufacturing and agriculture.
We are not a charity. It is our goal to be the most succesful, rich and the best economic guild on Planeshift. Guild members are encouraged to present new ideas to satisfy our customers and increase guild profits through fair business practices. As our customers prosper, so will we.
We accept all races and jobs, and are Lawful Neutral. We always try to keep ourselves out of conflict and wars. Our guild is one of the most tolerant of diversity of the opinions and customs of other guilds.
Within Bloodclaw Inc. we will strive to be equally tolerant of our own members. Every effort will be made to balance the needs and desires of guild members with the common good of the guild as a whole.
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I thought Mercenaries are about steel... and might...
not building stuff for money...
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LOL @ Draklar; most buildings are mighty and do have a steel infrastructure ;)
Anyways seriously, thanks for the offer Taldor but I think thats something we will only do if nothing else works. I would even prefer Xordan as leader to becoming part of another guild, I liked our independence but I guess I am only one vote of the 20 members.
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Originally posted by Draklar
I thought Mercenaries are about steel... and might...
not building stuff for money...
The purpose of mercenaries is to become rich by \'leasing\' (how do you say that?) themselves. More generally: Provide a service to become rich. And that\'s exactly what we do to, but we only have other sevices (builing and selling).
I meant the gereal purpose (become rich) was the same, not the service.
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it would be such a waste...
so many warriors made put away their weapons...
fighting is our way of life, a way to die!
you may gain money, but thing that really counts for the wielders of steel is the glory and fame and ride for pride!
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I suppose, if you can\'t find a leader, you could all apply to join the BISM\'s mercs, and keep your website as the merc Faction website....
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And so another great guild began to fall apart ...
You know that we are embracing new members, so you\'re all welcome to follow our paths :D
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Well, if the Bloodclaw leaders let us, we can become part of there guild...
That would make two parts:
People that help you advance in society by building stuff and making stuff. (you)
People that help you advance in society by killing off your enemies. (us)
If you think about it it makes sence... You build the forts, we protect them...
Edit: i think Jaxan should be leader... seeing that he know Zeph in person...
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But if you do that... u\'r not mercs any more....
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Just join the Cabal and be over with it! We could use a group of mercenaries. Reap the benefits of evil, and save yourselves from the coming pain.
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Originally posted by RussianVodka
Edit: i think Jaxan should be leader... seeing that he know Zeph in person...
lol Jaxan doesnt know me in person, however he does seem the logical choice since he spends the most time in game and seems to have a way with words :)
But maybe you could have a council of leaders or something similar, I never much liked being dictator Zephyrus lol.
Anyway whoever leads will get all of the stuff i have for the guild, web pages, documents, email addresses, pictures, etc... And i cant give you my webspace since someone else is gonna have to maintain the website, maybe you can apply for the free webspace offer from fragnetics if that is still going.
And Annah; I will do everything I can to stop the guild from falling apart
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That\'s a shame. Another great guilld down the drain. Makes you wonder...
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Originally posted by Draklar
it would be such a waste...
so many warriors made put away their weapons...
Lol, nobody sais that if they join us they\'ll put away their weapons! As when BC started to accept other kinds of job that not builders and architects, we would start doing what The Mercenaries did, not tell them:\"Put your weapons away and come work in the field.\" No, not at all.
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Originally posted by Annah
And so another great guild began to fall apart ...
You know that we are embracing new members, so you\'re all welcome to follow our paths :D
Begone from this thread, he who wishes to promote his guild.
Originally posted by Savion
Just join the Cabal and be over with it! We could use a group of mercenaries. Reap the benefits of evil, and save yourselves from the coming pain.
Begone from this thread, he who wishes to promote his guild.
Originally posted by Phinehas
That\'s a shame. Another great guilld down the drain. Makes you wonder...
They aren\'t disbanding, just changing leadership. Begone from this thread, he who is pessimistic.
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Originally posted by Davis
Originally posted by Annah
And so another great guild began to fall apart ...
You know that we are embracing new members, so you\'re all welcome to follow our paths :D
Begone from this thread, he who wishes to promote his guild.
Originally posted by Savion
Just join the Cabal and be over with it! We could use a group of mercenaries. Reap the benefits of evil, and save yourselves from the coming pain.
Begone from this thread, he who wishes to promote his guild.
Originally posted by Phinehas
That\'s a shame. Another great guilld down the drain. Makes you wonder...
They aren\'t disbanding, just changing leadership. Begone from this thread, he who is pessimistic.
Begone from this thread, he whose utmost desire is to be annoying.
By the way, I don\'t know what you\'re reading, but it sure looks to me like they\'re going down the path to oblivion. I haven\'t seen any posts about a new leader, but a lot of posts about merging or dying off.
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Why do you think I\'m trying to be annoying?
Anyway, most of the stuff about merging was either from other guilds or saying why they AREN\'T going to do it. The stuff about dying was saying that Zeph was afraid a new leader might not step forward. How likely is that? The mercenaries are going to last. How about this; if in three months, the mercenary guild still exists, you have to make a public apology to me, and if it doesn\'t, I do. Deal?
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oh, sorry Nat, I didn\'t know yer following the lame concept of \"we recruit everyone\"
correct me if I\'m wrong but if you make guild of builders/crafters, you recruit builders/crafters...
what do you need warriors for? for defense? from what? Aren\'t you fully neutral guild?
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Zephyrus, don\'t know how good you were as a leader (never paid attention) but I really respect you stepping down instead of just going inactive :)
Originally posted by Xordan
I suppose, if you can\'t find a leader, you could all apply to join the BISM\'s mercs, and keep your website as the merc Faction website....
Hey, even if you can find a leader, the Mercs faction is still open to anyone, guild or not :P
Draklar: probably it\'s just for show, but I don\'t know :D
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Zeph, just start a poll on the guild forums... That will help pic a leader...
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Acctually i am going a step better i am creating a questionairre to email to all members
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it deply saddens me to hear your resignation Zeph, hope you find a good leader, if such a person is acutally existant .
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The only thing stopping me from considering tyring to take over Zephyrus is that im not very good at website uh, hosting...i have been a leader of a clan/guild in a few games but have always used a free web hosting site with very limited options(like freewebs.com). But i stick with the Mercenary Guild and will do all I can to keep this clan alive. Maybe me and someone esle could be co-leaders or something.
Conclusion: I might be willing to be the leader(co-leader) if someone can help me out with site hosting.
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I could help... Though im not good at hosting websites eather...
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I would be honored to take of the role of leader/council member of the Mercenary Guild. I think the council is a good idea, and if we make one, Icefalcon will definately be on it.
Begone from this thread all those guilds greedy for members. The Mercenary Guild will remain strong, following the path that Zephyrus hath laid down for us. We shall not foresake his dream, for his dream is also ours.
Whatever happens, the Mercenaries will remain strong. We will not submit to this trivial bump in the long bloody road we have chosen to fortune.
--If I am chosen, I will need help from people like Icefalcon and anybody else, because I have little experience with webpages/hosting junk.
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Well, i hate to see Zeph leave the throne, so this is what i came up with:
The highest position in the guilds higherarchy (cant spell) will be split into two. The council that will controll the guild. And the \"superintendant\".
The councill will consist of the trusted members, such as Falcon, Jaxan, me, ect.
And the \"superintendant\" will be Zeph. He will be like an icon of the guild that actualy holds little power (unless he wants to come back). His main purpuse will be just to check up on us every so often and make sure we dont phuk up the guild... Sorta like the Queen of England and Tony Blair type of thing...
How about something like that???
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gaining an extra 20 members straight off would be a great asset to any other guild, but i advise not to just split up or join another guild because the creator/leader wants to step down, what kind of guild is this??
simply elect a new leader from some of the older members of the guild and we will put a poll on our forums to decide it.
i also like vodka\'s idea...
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I have to disagree LockStock, I certainly would not want to gain 20 members I\'d never heard of in the guild I\'m in :P
But yeah, good luck new leader whoever you may be :)
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Hey don\'t look at me! I had nothing to do it!:P
BTW:
I am willing to lead the mercs if you wish. Mercs want to make money and I am good at that;). Honestly! No Cabal Plot:P
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Oops Double Post! heh! heh! :P
Let me take this opportunity to say: Down with Paxx X(
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Gimme your stuph pronto!
:D
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Those posts were both complete spam.
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Originally posted by RussianVodka
The highest position in the guilds higherarchy (cant spell) will be split into two. The council that will controll the guild. And the \"superintendant\".
I beleive I speak for all the defenders in aplauding your plans to rebuild your guild instead of disblanding or seeking external leadership. A council would be a very good leadership, it is also what we will be using now that we are without draklar.
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You found an new leader and I think that is probabely the best solution for you.
My proposal to join was only meant for in the case you couldn\'t find anyone:
Originally posted by Taldor
If you can\'t find an other leader: join BloodClaw Inc. I think we have very similar objectives:
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I had a go at making a CMS that would have made it a piece of cake to upadate the site, but as it is the quickest/easiest way is frontpage, and the site is relatively easy to operate, even changing the buttons on that javascript dropdown menu is relatively easy... so you want to try having a council of leaders?
In that case i have a few questions about the mechanics of the game;
1. can i promote someone to level 9 hierarchy?
2. can they then invite new players?
If not then i will disband the guild and let Jaxan recreate it, i.e. so that he is the level 9 guy.
who should i be sending the site to?
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Originally posted by Draklar
oh, sorry Nat, I didn\'t know yer following the lame concept of \"we recruit everyone\"
correct me if I\'m wrong but if you make guild of builders/crafters, you recruit builders/crafters...
what do you need warriors for? for defense? from what? Aren\'t you fully neutral guild?
Yes, we need warriors for defence, who else would defend us if not ourselves? Defence from theives, and guilds that might think of us as a good way to get money by fighting us. I know it\'s lame, but we do need to have some defences...
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i thought we had some pact that you build our base ect we give you aid in war...or at least i think that was what was on our forum BW_ before wipe
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If BloodClaw needs defences, then you can hire the Mercenary Guild when you need them. ;)
If we rebuild, could you send me the html files of the site so I can put them on some other domain?
Perhaps in CB the guild system will work different, so if we can\'t have more than one level 9 person right now, we don\'t have to totally abandon the idea.
Also, I think we should name our spy/assassination/infiltration branch \"The West Wind\" in honor of Zephyrus.
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Yes, I know. But we wont be calling you guys all the time will we? If you want we will.. :P
But anyway, gratz for finding a new leader! :D Good luck Jaxan!
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1) uhh... warriors defending against thieves? I\'m not sure how it\'s going to work in PS..
2) do you know what completely neutral means? look at Explorers - they don\'t attack anyone, no one attacks them
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Originally posted by Jaxan
If we rebuild, could you send me the html files of the site so I can put them on some other domain?
ok, will do. I suggest taking fragnetics up on their offer of free webspace for planeshift guilds, could be a good idea
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Glad to see that we solved this...thing. Ok then, i guess we can argue the technicalities on the forum at the merc homepage, so that strangers won\'t know of our... secret...plans...things. Whatever. Now people who looks after the mercs to join\'em could as well SHUT UP!
because we\'re not going anywhere. Got it?
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Originally posted by Davis
Why do you think I\'m trying to be annoying?
Anyway, most of the stuff about merging was either from other guilds or saying why they AREN\'T going to do it. The stuff about dying was saying that Zeph was afraid a new leader might not step forward. How likely is that? The mercenaries are going to last. How about this; if in three months, the mercenary guild still exists, you have to make a public apology to me, and if it doesn\'t, I do. Deal?
I\'ll apologize to you now. :D I apologize to Davis everyone! You are all my witnesses!
By the way, I wasn\'t trying to be pessimistic, just expressing my regret for what I, in my ignorance, deemed a sure thing. That\'s why I thought you were annoying. I apologize again.
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Originally posted by Empanado
Whatever. Now people who looks after the mercs to join\'em could as well SHUT UP!
because we\'re not going anywhere. Got it?
Hey, what do you expect, some people will grab whoever they can get...
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Ok I am gonna vanish for the next 5 months or so, when I come back I might rejoin the mercenary guild, but not as leader, it will be interesting to see how the guild develops.
Bye bye for now planeshift community :)
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;(
bye
:diamond: for the road
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Bye Zephyrus...youve been a great leader, and i really hope that Jaxan can keep this guild together.
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Farewell, you will never be forgotten Zephyrus.
I\'ll do everything keep the guild together Icefalcon.
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Keep it together? Oh... it will stay together alright... under the rule of Savion that is!
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no...it really wont under savion....