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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Half_Pint on February 14, 2004, 05:58:37 am
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Greetings, again, O citizens of Yliakum! Mirth is active once more, and we will strive more than ever before to spread our joy across the land. All of you who seek to have fun and be a merry adventurer, helping others along the way, Mirth is the right guild for you! :)
We will never start a fight, but we will protect any innocents who are threatened. We will heal the injured, and the sick. We will do all we can to spread our love of life to the peoples of Planeshift, and we will stand against the evil in the world! Join us in our quest! :D
Organization
Mirth is led by a 5-member high council (elected by our members), and an appointed leader. Each member is appointed a Section Leader, a specialist in their profession. We currently have Sections for Smithing, Healing, and Adventuring, although more will be added as needed. People of all professions are welcome, with the exception of Thieves and Assassins.
Relations
We are currently allied with the Rangers Guild, and the Defenders. In addition, we are guild friends with Arcane Order and the Blitzers.
We do not support in any way the Cabal, the Dark Empire, or any other evil guild.
Our Story
Long years have passed since these tales of the Mirthful Men have been told.
These men are the ancestors of the now growing Mirth Guild. It is written that these men were wanderers. They liked to roam anywhere, everywhere and nowhere. Everone knew them, for their happy faces, and their jolly talk. They were always sharing great stories of thier adventures with any who would listen.
But, times were changing, and they were forced to settle down. In doing so they lost the one thing most dear to them all. Their Joy, their Happiness, their Mirth. Eventually, over many years, the lines of these men died out and their Mirth became a myth. Now there are few who remember the tales of their fore fathers.
But the time has come to remember the happiness that can be found in exploring the world. And that is what we are here to do. Roam these lands leaving our Mirth with all those who will have it. Putting evil and sadness aside, and restoring the good that once was done by the Men of Mirth. Now this joy is not limited to men only, but to all races as equals.
We are those who help, and do good. We are the folk of Mirth Guild.
Please take a look at our website at mirthguild.tk!
If you would like to join us, please join our forums at http://pub22.ezboard.com/bmirthguild. Just leave a brief introduction of yourself on our Join Us forums, and Davis or I will get back to you as soon as we can.
Cheers! :)
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Ah, so you\'re back at the helm now? I thought you said it would be longer than that?
Good luck on your new (old) position, Half Pint; and congratulations to Davis on his incident-free reign of terr--err... I mean rule of enlightenment; yes, that\'s what I meant...
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yeah welcome back...althou I didnt even realize u guys were gone..but thats my own fault..
Greetz
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Welcome back.
I\'ve got a small question about your guild believes/alignment:
1. All races are equal, but individuals may be lesser if they probe a nuisance! But Mirth Guild members are united, and above the rest.
And you considder yourself good?
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Heya, good to see you\'re getting active and getting mirth going again. I wish you luck!
Maybe we\'ll see the citadel of light finally have enough strength to knock off an evil guild. :P
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Trust me, they are good. He probably meant \'set above the rest\'. You can think your guild is great without having to be evil can\'t you?
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he didn\'t say evil, now did he? :)
anyway, \"we are higher beings\" really doesn\'t sound \"good\" :P
actually if you choose the path of good, you\'ll probably end up staying behind others...
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Well, he asked if he was sure they were good. The opposite of good is either bad or evil.
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neutral isn\'t good as well...
example:
- And you considder yourself good?
- No, I consider myself neutral.
cheers! ;)
edit: ah, but a lousy victory... I\'d prefer the clash of steel on the battlefield :]
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Alright, you got me there. You win... but just this once ;)
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Just to clarify that point from our beliefs:
Mirth members are morally above the rest, because we see that everyone is equal. And because we seek to spread our Mirth to all. If we were to succeed in spreading it to everyone, all would be equal. Until then we are morally superior because we have embraced Mirth. 8)
EDIT: And an update:
Mirth now has 7 confirmed active members. They are Half-Pint, Davis, Lalaland, Scobar, Yuhevon, Fanomatic and TheParias. I\'ll update this list as more members confirm. :)
EDIT2: There seems to be some confusion over who is the leader of Mirth. Davis and I are co-leaders for now, because I am still quite swamped with r/l stuff. In most cases, Davis will be our senior representative on these forums, because I don\'t have the time at the moment. :P
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Noooo!!! Not Davis!!! LOL Ok, so why do you think you\'re morally above the rest? You see evil people as equal? Only a neutral guild can do that.
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Err... No.
We view everybody as equal in their right to live and prosper, as long as they do not encroach on the lives of others. In other words, everyone starts off equal, but their deeds may make them otherwise. Members of Mirth are above all others, because we have embraced the view that to kill someone who is innocent is not right.
This means that evil people are not our moral equals, but we can still respect their abilities. We can still view them as respected enemies. :)
Sorry if it\'s confusing.. I\'m trying to explain it as well as I can. 8)
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yay another good guild :)
well done guys, now go spread the word of good through out the whole land!
:D
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Originally posted by DraGonFisT
yay another good guild :)
well done guys, now go spread the word of good through out the whole land!
:D
Another good guild?
They\'re the good guild, boy! Are and always have been.
Never heard of Mirth? Bah!
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Originally posted by Half_Pint
Members of Mirth are above all others, because we have embraced the view that to kill someone who is innocent is not right.
so you embraced the view that was embraced by masses of people before and still that makes you above all others?
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I think that what he means is that he couldn\'t be arsed to think of anything original to embrace. :D
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Well, I\'m starting to get it, but I still gotta agee with Draklar and Xordan at this point.
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I know that the idea of non-violence isn\'t exactly a new idea in real life. It\'s been popular for thousands of years. But Mirth was the first guild in Planeshift to support it, and we were one of the first guilds that wasn\'t evil.
If you can show me a single guild in Planeshift that isn\'t based on some sort of real life concept or job, please do. Every view expressed by the guilds of Planeshift has been embraced by many before it in real life. There have been people like the Cabal who act like jerks, there have been people like Defenders who protect the weak. There have been thieves, builders and warriors. If you look at that, none of the Planeshift guilds are all that original.
Please remember that in an RP context Mirth has been around for millenia. We wandered the world in the great evil, helping and encouraging. We were the first in the Planeshift world to embrace Mirth, and, yes, that makes us morally superior.
What makes us different from evil guilds that consider themselves morally superior is that we don\'t go out and kill those who aren\'t like us. Instead, we try to help them become better than they are.
originally posted by Xordan
I think that what he means is that he couldn\'t be arsed to think of anything original to embrace.
Actually, Xordan, I didn\'t write the guild history or beliefs. That was done months before I even joined Mirth, by YanRK. However, I happen to support those beliefs fully. I hope that this has cleared up any confusion. 8)
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no, I mean that you say yer above all others even tho it\'s obvious that a lot of other people embraced it as well. So you say yer above even tho yer equal :P
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Thank you for explaining yourself Draklar, that is a very valid point.
Indeed, people such as Mogura and Kada-el should be honoured as our equals. Perhaps I should edit our beliefs to include those people we see striving for Mirth outside of our happy family. :) I wouldn\'t include \"masses\" of people in that, though. I think that there are about ten people in Planeshift (excluding, the devs, who I am sure are wonderful people. :D) who would be worthy of the title of Morally Equal.
Thank you to all who discussed this, with the exception of Xordan. The rest of you contributed valid points, and have made me rethink Mirth\'s beliefs. Thanks for the help! 8)
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Heh, now your starting to remind me of the old people in movies running around yelling at everyone and proclaming everyone who doesn\'t have their view the devil. :P
eh, I guess I couldn\'t expect much else from a good guild, which is why I hate alignments...it totally kills originality of purpose. ;)
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Above, as in morally higher. Anybody who conforms to their own moral beliefs is, by their own definition, the most moral.
There, drink the sweet juice of Davisian enlightenment and shut up.
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Repent your sins and thou shalt be say-ved by the hoo-ly people of mirth..or something like that :P
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Originally posted by Davis
Above, as in morally higher. Anybody who conforms to their own moral beliefs is, by their own definition, the most moral.
What if part of their moral beliefs is that they have to think their not the most moral? WHAT THEN?
*note: I really don\'t care about what I just said.
By the way, Mirth is the first? There wasn\'t any good ones before you or do you just mean the first that\'s still around?
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Mirth was among the first good guilds, not THE first. However, we were the first to embrace non-violence. (as far as I know)
And, I regret to announce that I will be away for the next three days. I\'ll be back Thursday afternoon.
Cheers. :D
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Originally posted by Half_Pint
However, we were the first to embrace non-violence.
Originally posted by Half_Pint
and we will stand against the evil in the world!
Is it just me or is that contradictory? Non-violence means you don\'t fight, and fighting against evil is violence...so to me that would make you the exact definition of a good guild instead of a \"mirthful\" one.
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Also, I\'m not trying to be an ass :)
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Originally posted by Half_Pint
Please remember that in an RP context Mirth has been around for millenia. We wandered the world in the great evil, helping and encouraging. We were the first in the Planeshift world to embrace Mirth, and, yes, that makes us morally superior.
I\'m sorry but that argument doesn\'t work. All I have to do is say that \"in an RP context my guild is older\'n yours\" and I have just effectively annihilated that argument.
I also must point out that it is an example of your moral inferiority to tell people that you are morally superior. If you were morally superior you wouldn\'t be telling people it. That is pride. The very term \"morally superior\" is an oxymoron.
And again, what makes you so sure that there aren\'t many people worthy to be called morally superior?
Please note: None of this contains any malice on my part, just trying to help.
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Um, I\'m confused... lol. Make up your mind. Are u against violence?? Or are u out to stand against our evil ways?? Or are you gonna start up a gay bar... so you can all be \'mirthful\' together?? :D :P
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Originally posted by Kiern
Originally posted by Half_Pint
However, we were the first to embrace non-violence.
Originally posted by Half_Pint
and we will stand against the evil in the world!
Is it just me or is that contradictory? Non-violence means you don\'t fight, and fighting against evil is violence...so to me that would make you the exact definition of a good guild instead of a \"mirthful\" one.
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Also, I\'m not trying to be an ass :)
If this is when you\'re not trying, I\'d hate to think of what you\'re like when you are trying.
The fact that people think that the only way to stand against evil is with violene shows how much we need to spread mirth.
Originally posted by PhinehasI\'m sorry but that argument doesn\'t work. All I have to do is say that \"in an RP context my guild is older\'n yours\" and I have just effectively annihilated that argument.
I also must point out that it is an example of your moral inferiority to tell people that you are morally superior. If you were morally superior you wouldn\'t be telling people it. That is pride. The very term \"morally superior\" is an oxymoron.
And again, what makes you so sure that there aren\'t many people worthy to be called morally superior?
Please note: None of this contains any malice on my part, just trying to help.
It really depends on your moral standard. We have a moral standard. We believe that our moral standard will bring good into the world; therefore, it is superior. The way we see it, there is nothing immoral about acknowladging this fact. Is there anything wrong with ackgnowladging when something is superior? Is believing in your moral values such a crime?
Originally posted by Kiern
What if part of their moral beliefs is that they have to think their not the most moral? WHAT THEN?
Then they have pretty screwed up moral beliefs.
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As Davis said, there are ways of standing against evil that don\'t include violence.
And, thanks for the suggestions guys, I am certainly being forced to think about them. :D
Cya all in a few days. 8)
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It really depends on your moral standard. We have a moral standard. We believe that our moral standard will bring good into the world; therefore, it is superior. The way we see it, there is nothing immoral about acknowladging this fact. Is there anything wrong with ackgnowladging when something is superior? Is believing in your moral values such a crime?
No, believing isn\'t, but forcing that belief on others is. It\'s not a crime persay, but it goes against morals. If you believe it and show it by your actions, great! But if you go around telling people, \"I am morally superior than you.\" It\'s the same as insulting someone, telling them they are inferior. That is prideful and egotistical, it\'s not helping anyone, and it is, in essence, immoral.
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Originally posted by Davis
Originally posted by Kiern
Originally posted by Half_Pint
However, we were the first to embrace non-violence.
Originally posted by Half_Pint
and we will stand against the evil in the world!
Is it just me or is that contradictory? Non-violence means you don\'t fight, and fighting against evil is violence...so to me that would make you the exact definition of a good guild instead of a \"mirthful\" one.
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Also, I\'m not trying to be an ass :)
If this is when you\'re not trying, I\'d hate to think of what you\'re like when you are trying.
Um...I\'m pretty sure most of the board saw what happens when I do....anyways, if I get confused I doubt I\'m the only one, if helping to define what you mean is being an ass then that\'s \"pretty screwed up\"
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To go on, so what exactly are we talking about here? Mind games, like have been tried before? I still don\'t think \"standing against evil\" is spreading mirth.
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Don\'t worry Kiern you haven\'t said anything wrong(for once). It\'s just Davis, he\'s frustrated that he can\'t refute our brilliant arguments. Personally, I say up with Half Pint, down with Davis.
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Nah, Davis is cool...they just have the guild act so very different then what YanRK was doing (at least from what I knew)
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Well, Davis may be cool, but he\'s not Mirthful.
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So, Kiern. you\'re saying that we should not defend ourselves, because that isn\'t Mirthful?
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Defend yourself? From what? Unless you bother declaring war on someone or challenging them in the arena, I don\'t see how that\'s valid...as for people disrupting your guild, what would there be to disrupt if you just help people?
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so anyway how are you going to spread mirth? By being jesters or something?
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Defend yourself? From what? Unless you bother declaring war on someone or challenging them in the arena, I don\'t see how that\'s valid...as for people disrupting your guild, what would there be to disrupt if you just help people?
Well, helping people sometimes means that you have to fight others. As long as other \"evil\" guilds try to hurt innocents or defenceless, Mirth will be there to aid them.
We try to keep things peacefully as long as we can, but arguing with an \"evil\" guild can be difficult sometimes because \"evil\" guilds tend to lie a lot and strike without warning or explanation.
We wont attack unless you do something clearly evil such as killing innocents, attack our members or allies, raiding towns, try and take over the world etc.
Dont worry. We wont go on any crusades or anything if that\'s what you mean. We help people when they\'re in need of help and only kill if it\'s absolutely necessary.
Hope this explains what we stand for, and I also hope that my fellow-members agree with what I just said ;)
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Davis said you fight evil without using violence. Phisical fighting means some kind of violence.
and hey now, don\'t generalize all that about evil guilds :P
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Drak, there are other ways. We try to be non-violent, but if someone tries to stab you, wouldn\'t you try to beat them up? However, not all evil is as in-your-face, and usually, violence won\'t be neccessary. There are exceptions to every rule.
Originally posted by Draklar
so anyway how are you going to spread mirth? By being jesters or something?
Helping people, etc.
Originally posted by Kiern
Defend yourself? From what? Unless you bother declaring war on someone or challenging them in the arena, I don\'t see how that\'s valid...as for people disrupting your guild, what would there be to disrupt if you just help people?
From whatever feels like attacking us. Just because we avoid making enemies doesn\'t mean people won\'t be jerks.
Originally posted by Phinehas
Don\'t worry Kiern you haven\'t said anything wrong(for once). It\'s just Davis, he\'s frustrated that he can\'t refute our brilliant arguments. Personally, I say up with Half Pint, down with Davis.
I responded to his argument, he just didn\'t bother to quote it. He\'s the one that didn\'t respond to mine. I did refute your \"brilliant argument\", Kiern just chose to ignore it. Read the post he was quoting. The whole thing, not just what Kiern wants you to see. However, I completely agree with your support of the Pint.
Originally posted by Phinehas
Well, Davis may be cool, but he\'s not Mirthful.
You know what? You\'re absolutely right. From now on, I will be so Mirthful the Mirth will spill from my ears.
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Originally posted by Davis
Originally posted by Kiern
Defend yourself? From what? Unless you bother declaring war on someone or challenging them in the arena, I don\'t see how that\'s valid...as for people disrupting your guild, what would there be to disrupt if you just help people?
From whatever feels like attacking us. Just because we avoid making enemies doesn\'t mean people won\'t be jerks.
That\'s the point...no player can attack you unless somehow YOU agree to it, that\'s the point of not having open PK...and I\'ve said about the \"non-violence\" ways
Originally posted by Davis
Originally posted by Phinehas
Don\'t worry Kiern you haven\'t said anything wrong(for once). It\'s just Davis, he\'s frustrated that he can\'t refute our brilliant arguments. Personally, I say up with Half Pint, down with Davis.
I responded to his argument, he just didn\'t bother to quote it. He\'s the one that didn\'t respond to mine. I did refute your \"brilliant argument\", Kiern just chose to ignore it. Read the post he was quoting. The whole thing, not just what Kiern wants you to see. However, I completely agree with your support of the Pint.
What the hell are you talking about?
Your last posts directed to me:
So, Kiern. you\'re saying that we should not defend ourselves, because that isn\'t Mirthful?
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The fact that people think that the only way to stand against evil is with violene shows how much we need to spread mirth.
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Point out to me what your talking about?
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Forgive me; I was thinking more RP. You\'re right, we can\'t be attacked, so we probably won\'t do any fighting.
EDIT: No, wait, it depends if guild wars are consensual on both sides. So we might have to do fighting.
And to get my point across better: You ever heard of a guy named Ghandi?
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*forces few forums users to form a circle and starts shouting*
make mirth, not war! :P
hmm... one more question: will Mirth be newb-helpers guild as well? :)
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Yeah, sure, we help people, and newbs are people too. :)
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I mean more like fanatic newb-helping
like Mogura...
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ok, not that fanatic, but you get my point ;)
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No, we won\'t compulsively visit Linkdead threads :)
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So, how come my arguments from the second page were so carefullly ignored? I\'m still waiting for answers.
Originally posted by Phinehas I\'m sorry but that argument doesn\'t work. All I have to do is say that \"in an RP context my guild is older\'n yours\" and I have just effectively annihilated that argument.
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Originally posted by PhinehasAnd again, what makes you so sure that there aren\'t many people worthy to be called morally superior?
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Originally posted by Phinehas
Quote:Originally posted by Davis
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It really depends on your moral standard. We have a moral standard. We believe that our moral standard will bring good into the world; therefore, it is superior. The way we see it, there is nothing immoral about acknowladging this fact. Is there anything wrong with ackgnowladging when something is superior? Is believing in your moral values such a crime?
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No, believing isn\'t, but forcing that belief on others is. It\'s not a crime persay, but it goes against morals. If you believe it and show it by your actions, great! But if you go around telling people, \"I am morally superior than you.\" It\'s the same as insulting someone, telling them they are inferior. That is prideful and egotistical, it\'s not helping anyone, and it is, in essence, immoral.
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Not carefully ignored, my friend, but carelessly ignored. I apologize.
I\'m sorry but that argument doesn\'t work. All I have to do is say that \"in an RP context my guild is older\'n yours\" and I have just effectively annihilated that argument.
... OK, cool.
And again, what makes you so sure that there aren\'t many people worthy to be called morally superior?
There are. They should join Mirth.
No, believing isn\'t, but forcing that belief on others is. It\'s not a crime persay, but it goes against morals. If you believe it and show it by your actions, great! But if you go around telling people, \"I am morally superior than you.\" It\'s the same as insulting someone, telling them they are inferior. That is prideful and egotistical, it\'s not helping anyone, and it is, in essence, immoral.
Not forcing, spreading. And yes, others start inferior, jut as a child is inferior to an adult, but they have the capacity to morally grow. That\'s what we help in.
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Ok, I can dig that. Btw I like the new mirthful you Davis.
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Didn\'t mean to miss the heated argument. But I\'ll offer my services to any who ask.
And anyone who has taken some sort of defensive martial art knows what non-violent means (Avoiding violence at most cost, but when inevitable, be prepared) That\'s how I will play in CB.
*btw half pint I need you to invite me to the guild so us 7 can beat out the other guilds in the crystal stats.
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Wow...
Why does so much always happen while I\'m away? :D
Scobar, thank you for doing a better job than either Davis or I of explaining our ideas. I\'ll invite you tomorrow. :)
I truly mean what I said on this thread\'s subject line. We are making Mirth Guild anew, and we will be non-violent unless we are forced to fight against evil actions. There will be no more bickering with the Cabal (Davis!), no more un-Mirthful comments (Davis!), and no commanding spies (Half-Pint!). :)
Thank you once more for helping me to fine-tune our beliefs to match our new actions. I don\'t consider it an attack on Mirth; I appreciate it as a way to make us better as a whole. Rest assured that every argument you have made will be discussed on our forums.
And, by the way, does anyone know of a free webhosting service with 20+ megs of space, decent bandwidth, FTP uploading, and PHP support? (Without pop-ups or huge banners)
Or am I seeking a non-existent city of gold? :P
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Hosted by freepgs cost : 00$
20Meg /2GB bandwith
or 50Meg /4.5GB bandwith for adding the link above
php/mysql/ftp
more than 1DB allowed
This should be fine I guess. ;)
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I think that in order to apeal to people and gain respect of other guilds, we must demonstrate our leadership amongst the guilds by our in-game actions with everyone. As of right now, I don\'t see any Mirth members or the Guild itself in the top 10 list for the crystal hunt. Therefore, I think Mirth should get crackin on finding Crystals.
My partner Camika and I are working on getting within the top 10 in just 15 days, but it will be tough without the guilds help.
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I just got a new comp, worry not.
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Yes, Davis, that\'s nice... :P
Actually, it\'s great news. Welcome back! And check your PMs. :D
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Some updates:
Jess_Person has been confirmed as active one more! Welcome back, Jess_Person!
Scobar has been promoted to level 3. Congratulations! :)
Many thanks to Scobar for the wonderful new sigs he has made for Mirth members! They are fantastic, and yet another showcase of his incredible artistic talent! 8)
I\'ve just finished my science exams, and done very well. It\'s good to know that all the time I\'m spending working is paying off! (If I have to be away from Planeshift, at least it\'s for a good cause... :D) Now all I have to do is survive until the spring break... X(
I have declared Mirth Guild as neutral in the event of war between any non-good guilds. This was originally meant to deal with the seemingly impending war between CV and the Cabal. Thankfully, this war seems to have been averted. Mirth\'s policy of neutrality remains, however.
I wish Mirth to you all, and may you have a wonderful, er, day or so until I post again... :D
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Well, it\'s been more than a day or so before I post on this thread again, I guess. X(
I\'m happy to announce that Entamis and Camika have joined Mirth, and both of them look to be fine additions to our community. :D
And as to the issue of Shadowhand being disbanded due to spies, I am very saddened to hear this. Shadowhand was very well organized and well-led. I wish Yann the best of luck with whatever he decides to do now. 8)
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You go into another guilds forum and started recruiting their own members lol! Wow this is going to get good!
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Originally posted by DepthBlade
You go into another guilds forum and started recruiting their own members lol! Wow this is going to get good!
If you mean \'thread\', I don\'t see a problem.
...but if you mean he turned up on the actual Mirth Forums (which you probably don\'t)....
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Originally posted by DepthBlade
You go into another guilds forum and started recruiting their own members lol! Wow this is going to get good!
Getting good? It stopped being a long, long time ago. :rolleyes:
Now, you go along and stop making failed attempts to live in the past.
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Yah I mean thread not guild forum my bad! I think recruiting already recruited people isn\'t a good thing to do personally but if you think its alright, then it must be :D Davis heh your going down maybe it won\'t be me who takes you down but you sure the hell will go down! I can\'t wait to laugh at you when it happens!
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Ah, other guild\'s thread... when did this event you speak of occur?
And why, exactly, would you be taking me down? I offer my apologies if I killed any family members, tripped you, etc.
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Well there WAS a post in here by TheRedMonk I believe and he mentioned something about one of your members joining his new guild..but looks like it was deleted! Only one reason I want you taken down is because you seem to be the source of corruption the one who infilitrated SH? That is you everyone is talking about correct? I may not know you that well but I will sure the hell help stop any people like you!
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infiltrated, source of corruption... what nasty words.
I get the distinct impression that you don\'t like me.
See another thread for illumination.
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*Sigh* I am NOT liking the communities current state. Things used to be great, I\'m glad to have Mirth back, so I go to the Mirth guild thread after a while of avoiding guild threads hoping to see a bit of Planeshifts old and dwindling fire and all I see is a huge argument about the wording of something in Mirth\'s beliefs. I personally see nothing wrong with what was said... At any rate, Welcome back. And, so you know, you have the full support of myself and The Forsaken Ones...or what\'s left of us. With you guys back we\'re a step closer to restoring Planeshift to it\'s once great self. Good luck.
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You guys should form an \"Oldbie\'s alliance\"... :)
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Originally posted by TheRedMonk
You guys should form an \"Oldbie\'s alliance\"... :)
It\'s called \"The Ordo Illuminati\". ;)
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Originally posted by Monketh
Originally posted by TheRedMonk
You guys should form an \"Oldbie\'s alliance\"... :)
It\'s called \"The Ordo Illuminati\". ;)
Well that\'s an actual guild... some, like myself and some people in Mirth are \'oldbies\' but still wish to run their own guild. Some kind of organization would be nice, not neccesarily and oldbie alliance but maybe some kind of movement to turn the community around involving the guilds as they typically have more power than individuals.
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Originally posted by DevotedEternal
Some kind of organization would be nice, not neccesarily and oldbie alliance but maybe some kind of movement to turn the community around involving the guilds as they typically have more power than individuals.
In the past we have suggested a regular meeting of representatives from the major guilds in PS, and even taken it a step too far and suggested that this group should in some part make up the Octarchs of PS or the Vigesimi even.
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And Annah\'s crusade against the newb guilds had something about a council...
Personally, I\'m thouroughly against it.
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DepthBlade, if you aren\'t going to explain your posts, don\'t post here at all. We have NEVER recruited anyone who was a member of another guild (unless one of our members is using an alt), so I would appreciate it if you would get your facts straight before you go corrupting our thread. Thank you. 8)
The current state of the community is indeed a matter of concern for me, as well as for anyone else who sees Planeshift as something other than a spamming area. I have not been on the forums recently, but many of the posts I have read have been spammed and argued into the ground. This is UNACCEPTABLE, and I will have it known that nobody will be accepted in Mirth who has been involved in this corruption of the community as a whole.
I hope that the community I remember will return once CB is out. Perhaps it will help if people can vent their emotions somewhere other than these forums. :D
Mirth is still active, recruiting, and Mirthful.
Oh, and by the way, goaltender interference should be CALLED! (I just wanted to add that on the off-chance that the refs for the Vancouver-Calgary series play PS.) :D GO CANUCKS GO!!!! :)
Cheers 8)
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Well, please forgive my ignorance. As I said in RedMonk\'s thread, I had absolutely no idea that Davis was shadowmancer. I have just spoken to him, and he has voluntarily removed himself from Mirth Guild.
Please do not see Davis\'s actions as a reflection on Mirth as a whole. We do have NEVER considered it Mirthful to use an alt to gain information, and our new policy is that all spying is un-Mirthful. Although the rest of Mirth had nothing to do with this, I am ashamed that one of our own has done this. I offer my sincere apologies to Errion, as well as the rest of Shadowhand, and pledge that I will do my absolute best to rid Planeshift of the stagnation that has befallen it.
I remember what Planeshift used to be like. Friendships were made, and kept. Friendly and productive rivalries formed, and the group of people who are now known as \'oldbies\' joked and conversed with a positive air. This, I think, is the true meaning of Mirth: Not to eliminate the \'evil\' guilds, but to make a return to the atmospere that was enjoyed when I was a newbie. To create a place where you can do what you like, but in a friendly way. To make people play their roles for the sake of EVERYBODY\'s enjoyment...
To me, that is Mirth. :)
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Originally posted by Half_Pint
DepthBlade, if you aren\'t going to explain your posts, don\'t post here at all. We have NEVER recruited anyone who was a member of another guild
oh geez... he didn\'t mean you... he meant RedMonk guy who\'s post got deleted. And as a matter of fact... don\'t say never, Half-Pint :rolleyes:
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Draklar, I will say never if I mean never. Although I should more accurately say, \"We have never KNOWINGLY recruited anyone who was a member of another guild.\"
And anyway, Depthblade\'s posts here had absolutely no point that I see.
I would appreciate it if we could get back on to this thread\'s topic: recruitment and updates for Mirth guild. I will accept comments on my vision of what Mirth is, if you care to give them.
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HalfPintPlease do not see Davis\'s actions as a reflection on Mirth as a whole.
Never did and never will. :)
About that Depthblade post (sorry to keep the subject up), I just wanted to say that you misunderstood, Pint, but you couldnt know better since my message was deleted. I came with a lousy joke on this thread about recruiting Scobar. Depthblade then posted that message, and it did not takel ong before my post was deleted. So it was all my fault from the start, sorry.
I would appreciate it if we could get back on to this thread\'s topic: recruitment and updates for Mirth guild. I will accept comments on my vision of what Mirth is, if you care to give them.
You should update your website and consider an alliance with AGES entertainers guild. You both spread Mirth in the end :)
Kada-elIn the past we have suggested a regular meeting of representatives from the major guilds in PS
What do you mean by major guilds?
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Well I was out partying up with my friends for my 18th birthday and wasn\'t here to defend myself against those statements and explain myself immediately like I usually would have! Thank you Draklar and TheRedMonk for setting things straight, I always appreciate people like you :)
@Pint Why is this meeting only for the major guilds? Shouldn\'t all guilds be involved in it if they are up and running? Also what is a major guild in this game? More members longer stay in Planeshift? More members means nothing especially if 3/4 are inactive and undedicated players :P! And for having a longer stay in PlaneShift gives you no more experience then others because guilds are practiced through a ton of online games and people new to PlaneShift can have years experience running a guild for another game! Hold a meeting for every legitimate guild or don\'t hold one at all and have others do the organizing leaving you out!!
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Originally posted by TheRedMonk
What do you mean by major guilds?
Well, I didn\'t mean much at all by it, but I guess if such a thing were to exisit there should be criteria which guilds need to fullfil. We have a lot of guilds out there which are just created one day and are gone the next, also we have plenty of one person guilds. I\'m sure such criteria will exist anyway soon enough for guilds to be recognised as \'official\' PS guilds.
Originally posted by DepthBlade
@Pint Why is this meeting only for the major guilds? Shouldn\'t all guilds be involved in it if they are up and running? Also what is a major guild in this game? More members longer stay in Planeshift? More members means nothing especially if 3/4 are inactive and undedicated players :P! And for having a longer stay in PlaneShift gives you no more experience then others because guilds are practiced through a ton of online games and people new to PlaneShift can have years experience running a guild for another game! Hold a meeting for every legitimate guild or don\'t hold one at all and have others do the organizing leaving you out!!
I think that\'s aimed at me and not at HP ;)
Don\'t get upset about this, the meeting doesn\'t even exist! It was just one of many old ideas that have flown about this realm. No one is being left out of anything. If it did exist I couldn\'t agree with you about all guilds being involved though, for the reasons stated above. But that arguement is entirely academic anyway ;)
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Originally posted by Kada-El
Originally posted by DevotedEternal
Some kind of organization would be nice, not neccesarily and oldbie alliance but maybe some kind of movement to turn the community around involving the guilds as they typically have more power than individuals.
In the past we have suggested a regular meeting of representatives from the major guilds in PS, and even taken it a step too far and suggested that this group should in some part make up the Octarchs of PS or the Vigesimi even.
Wasn\'t that the United Guilds, that Annah suggested a while back. Anyways, I agree with Davis on this one.
I am against any kind of \"council\" that controls the larger guilds and bully the smaller. Not saying that you\'re suggesting this Kada, but that was Annah\'s point of UG.
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Well, DepthBlade, I apologize for my post above. As far as I could (and still can) see, your posts were unexplained and reasonless. Apparently my perception was incorrect.. I suppose it goes to show that deleted posts can make all the difference. 8)
Oh, and a new version of the Mirth site is currently being made. I\'ll let you all know when it is finished. :)
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Im glad to hear that Pint...you didnt answer by beer question though ;)
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There will always be a beer waiting for thee, O Tybalt! Just as there will always be merriment waiting for all who battle corruption and malice in this world! :D