PlaneShift
Gameplay => Wish list => Topic started by: Xanaroth on February 25, 2004, 05:04:49 pm
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this has probably brought up in one of the map post, but i couldn\'t find it.
I would like to see a map somewhere on the screen, so you can see where you are currently walking and what is near you (lets say covering about 30 by 30 meters) on what you can see players, buildings, monsters etc, but from a 2d up view. So every player will be show a blue dot, a enemy a red dot, a friend (friend list) green dot and buidlings brown square the size of the building. That way people could orientate themselfs better, and find their way fasters arround towns and dungeons etc.
Dont tell me there aint a good map yet of the town or so that can be used fot this.
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this has been discussed...
i dont like radar maps.. they are unrealistic.. they rule out skills such as stealth, pickpocketing, espionage etc
there is a cartographer job in the char setup menu... so i assume there will be map items.. made by players... use 1 of these
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There needs to be a map but not one that indentifies where characters are just one that does landscape and shows buildings and such.
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yay, another thread about maps.. -_-;
go to the bottom of the wishlist forum, type MAP in the search thingie, press SEARCH and you\'ll see that there are 90 threads covering maps...
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Guess this makes 91 now :)
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thats why i made this thread, dont want to read 91 topics to get to 1 for this.
And about players, ofcourse only the normal players will be shown, those hid or stealthing will remain invisible.
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I like the idea of an ingame map, but not a \"radar\" map. If there is one it should show only the buildings, landmarks, trees, etc. personaly i like the paper maps in NWN and morrowind, so i\'ll probably end up printing one out.
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those papers maps will work also, but it is better if at least your own location is visible so you know where you are.
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Of course, an in game map should have your position shown. Just not monsters, other players, and whatnot.
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he means theres 90 other threads on THE SAME THING!
if you can say anything that hasnt been said before in relation u can have a ruby, but i doubt u can -_-
Your just going to repeat everything thats been said before and noones going to listen.
im gettin to breaking point.
*looks around manically* o_O
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Sweet didn\'t know there was a explorers guild, that would be fun :)
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... *waves a flag for the Explorers* XD
And being an Explorer, I think maps would just take away from the experience. So there will definitely have to be an option to turn them off completely :P
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will the xplorers guild be selling map items (ie using the cartography skill)... or will there need to be a sepperate cartographers guild
personally i would like to be able to add yer own text to an in-game map item (onto the gui.. not the lil object in yer inventory)..... could have comments like \'Here there be Beasties!\'
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Originally posted by Deddarus
will the xplorers guild be selling map items (ie using the cartography skill)... or will there need to be a sepperate cartographers guild
There can always be a cartographers guild, but there will also always be individuals who will make their own maps. I think that for some time the XG will make maps for its own members, and then only to point out whatever significant features we find, since most of us simply tend to rely on our memory to get around the basic world. Not sure if this will remain so in the future as the place expands ;)
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hmmm.... you could go by mind if you keep near the same places, but if you travel a lot you would have to remind a load more.
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Not necessarily :P
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I really dont know if the idea has already been brought up. But what if *eyes go glassy*...
A starting player would only have a simple map of certain inhabited areas. This \'map\' would be displayed on the HUD, kinda like a radar map, only without dots or any other markers.
Maybe places where you have been would also be visible on the map (with some sort of \'fog of war\').
If you would have a map in your inventory (perhaps special map slots) the information on these maps would be added to your HUD map. The better the map (dependent on the creator\'s cartography skill), the more would be shown on it.
This might be a good way to integrate the maps made by the cartography skill with the HUD.
(ps the search on map+hud+cartography gave no results and map+hud gave no relevant threads :P)
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There are 90 threads about maps.. and you can\'t find 1 ? :/
Anyways, I like the idea using maps as normal items that have to be bought by other players or NPC\'s the most. I think the way that looks the most as normal maps IRL would be the best, and a lot more fun. Make maps if you have the skills and buy them if you don\'t... not some kind of weird auto-map feature.
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I have only one thing to say.
If you want a map, go make your own. Pick up a pencil and draw a paper map for yourself. It certainly isn\'t more difficult than that. And if you do so, you will be able to see exactly where you have been, and where you need to go to find the places you haven\'t been. Just like a radar.
If any of you can\'t do that, I will personally force Moogie into deleting all posts so I can be the first person to call you stupid. :D
Edit: Oh wait, Moogie doesn\'t mod the wish list... Umm... Venge then!
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what do you guys need a built-in radar map for?
Don\'t you have some sense of orientation?
Of course you get lost at first, but after some time, when you\'re familiar with aplace, you know where things are. Or ask someone for directions :D
It\'s like with the dungeon in MB. Everyone got lost the first time. Some asked, some spawned and some seeked on their own untill they found the exit.
It would be cool if you could buy a paper map. Just a piece of paper. It shouldn\'t show you your current position.
Look at the surrounding (roads, rivers, mountains, etc) and try to figure your location out.
Maybe you could afford a compass to see where North is.
And direction signs would be nice. Maybe even a big placard with a map and your current position. Such a placard could be in a common place, like the plaza in MB where the statue is.
So you\'d need a sense of orientation in order to find your way through the map.
You could hire a guide or if you\'re familiar with a place, you can act as a guide yourself and gain some money.
that\'s what i\'d love to see :D and not some kind of cyber-GPS-radar map in the corner of the screen.
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radar bad....sense of prescense good!
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i agree with aineko
the Ultima online style of map is what i like (use cartography skill.. gives u a line drwing map on a peice of parchment... higher skill gives u a choice of scales)
makes a realistic \'ye olde\' style map.. no location marked... observe yer surroundings to pinpoint yer location
i would however like to be able to annotate the map.. so u can mark on places that are intersting to u (eg Bob\'s house)
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i would like to see it like morrowind but without the map
when you walk ouside town there would be a few signs telling you what path to take to reach a certain place
you could also ask the npcs for directions
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Yes radar would not be good at all. I dont even want an in-game map. Exploration would be eliminated if you could see on the map where all the secret passages and cracks in the walls are. Its not realistic, and if people dont want to get lost, then they can get familiar with the surroundings.
Im not against cartographers though, the cartographers would have to know all the secret places to map them right? So they actually sell their information that they have collected. Maps made by cartographers would be an item that you can open and look at, a map in the corner of the screen that is always there defeats the whole Exploration aspect of the game.
Thats all I have to say :D
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i think if the devs did put an ingame map or radar in in conjunction with the cartography skill (which the char creation screens suggest they plan to implement).... then i think they overdosed on a whole loada \'wha.... erm....duuuuh....*scrathes head*....arrgh\' stuff
in other words it would be pretty silly to create a skill then render it useless
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Exactly what I was thinking, if they only way to have a map was a paper map, what good would the cartography skill be? Ofcourse, sense of direction and memory will get you around most places you have been before (everyone knows the Hydlaa dungeon like the back of his/her hand by now) but when you go somewhere you havent been before, you wouldnt want to run into a group of 200 trepors, would you? That is where cartographers could come in handy, they could mark \"look out! large number of trepors!\" on their self-made map and sell it. Some people just cant be bothered to \'explore the world\', that\'s why IRL people buy road maps and car navigation systems. :P
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\'here there be beasties!!!\'
\'This wood forsaken by laanx\'
\'this town knows not honour\'
lol... would luv to see maps with that sorta thing on
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Yes, I assume a cartographer could put that on a map. That would be really cool.
Anyway, I don\'t think locations of other players should be shown. I also don\'t think your location should be shown. That way, the quality of the map will matter and it will be possible to get lost.
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for finding players there should be a tracking skill whereby u can discover where they have been recently.. ie pick up their trail
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Tracking skill! I agree there :D That would be pretty cool. And not only for other players, it could be for... pretty much anything. Monsters, NPCs (if they move), etc.