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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Marlow on March 12, 2004, 05:18:51 am

Title: concrete facts about CB
Post by: Marlow on March 12, 2004, 05:18:51 am
hi everyone!

this is my very first post so i hope you\'ll bear with me : ). so far, i have heard only a few rock solid facts about CB and its release. that\'s why, i decided to start this thread and to accumulate as many clear cut, undeniable facts about CB as possible. feel free just to write a line or two, and let us know anything you think most other people don\'t already know.

(speculation and prediction are welcome as well, but OUGHT to be CLEARLY LABELED as such, as not to cause confusion)

thanks in advance : )
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Post by: Karyuu on March 12, 2004, 06:41:01 am
No one besides the devs really know solid concrete facts, and the devs are trying to keep as much of it a surprise as possible. So I doubt you\'ll get any replies here :/ The models have changed drastically, we\'ve heard, and there will be monsters to fight, pvp duels, new currency, etc., etc. Basics. I suggest you just wait and find out everything when CB gets here. Don\'t you want to be surprised? ;)
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Post by: Wedge on March 12, 2004, 06:44:39 am
Nothing but concrete facts (http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/planeshift/planeshift/docs/history.txt?view=auto)

Not that you\'ll pry find most of it interesting, but hey, you want the solid truth.
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Post by: Ghostslayer on March 12, 2004, 08:23:55 am
This is what one of the Devs said in a similar thread (http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=7653&boardid=1&styleid=2)  a while ago:

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Originally posted by Vengeance
Iteration 1 of combat, progression, magic, monster AI, PvP fighting, crafting, producing, new gui, skeletal animation, merchants, quests.  Probably other things.

All pretty basic for now so don\'t get your hopes up.
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Post by: karakth on March 12, 2004, 03:26:29 pm
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Originally posted by Wedge

Not that you\'ll pry find most of it interesting, but hey, you want the solid truth.


Actually that\'s very interesting, thanks :)
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Post by: Marlow on March 13, 2004, 12:55:28 am
I?m happy as this stands. I?ve got some idea now of as how much more complex CB will be, and I?ve got some non-literature related material to get me through chemistry lab.

Thanks everyone.

P.S. I do want to be surprised, I only wish it were soon.
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Post by: ArchAngel on March 13, 2004, 05:17:40 am
yeah, thanks man this is help full i didnt read all of it as i hope to be surprised, im still hoping there will be ninjas (come on ninjas)
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Post by: Wedge on March 13, 2004, 05:30:54 am
There already are ninjas... me!  Hmmm in fact, I have the sig hosted again, should go put it back up...

Yay!
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Post by: Thardin on March 13, 2004, 12:12:40 pm
It all depends on how you (role)play. You can play a ninja if you like...
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Post by: Icefalcon on March 13, 2004, 08:42:16 pm
Yes it is...ArchAngel, the Kezuke Guild looks like what you want.
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Post by: Beregar on March 14, 2004, 02:14:01 am
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Originally posted by Wedge
Nothing but concrete facts (http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/planeshift/planeshift/docs/history.txt?view=auto)

Not that you\'ll pry find most of it interesting, but hey, you want the solid truth.


Well, guess what... this actually made me want CB even more. This is quite a good read, if you bother to really try to see what if all means. I take it there is really a lot going on in development right now! ;)
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Post by: Monketh on March 14, 2004, 03:24:01 am
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 We can now make way bread by dropping it into an oven container
  and waiting until it bakes.


An excellent read, indeed. :)
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Post by: Kixie on March 14, 2004, 03:33:50 am
yes i find it very cool to look at all the stuff they add every day and think about how fast they are actually making progress at. its like light speed really.
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Post by: Marlow on March 14, 2004, 07:54:28 am
i\'m not sure if this is wishful thinking, but to me it seems that the devs have been fixing bugs lately. could this imply the second coming ......... er .......... i mean CB? i\'m sure they will have a comment in the history file signifying completion of CB, before it is posted on the site.
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Post by: karakth on March 14, 2004, 12:00:20 pm
Mm yes I actually thought about that too. But they still make important changes so I think CB is still kinda far away.
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Post by: lynx_lupo on March 14, 2004, 01:37:51 pm
bugs are beeing fixed all the time.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Marlow on March 14, 2004, 11:52:35 pm
hmmm ........ i wonder how much of a heads-up we will receive from the devs before the next release and when the homepage will receive the major overhaul in preparation for CB.
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Post by: Moogie on March 15, 2004, 12:56:30 am
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In IRC
hail, mighty Talad
how goes things up there in the immortal world above? :)
* nosferat bows to the space to the left of Talad
things going well, proceeding steadily even if we are late
yay
The goal of this year\'s expedition is to find last year\'s expedition, who attempted to build a bridge between the two peaks...
* nosferat covers one eye and looks at the map
still no ETA, Talad?
my idea, i\'m afraid.
* maxtrix_ has joined #planeshift
* crj has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
Moogie: no, I don\'t want to miss another date :)
it will probably be release without a prior notice
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Post by: Kixie on March 15, 2004, 02:23:48 am
so if that means what i think it means... cb is gonna sneak up on us and pounce right? thats cool beans... CB really... LOl
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Post by: Thardin on March 15, 2004, 06:23:17 pm
That means they could already have the new site done and waiting offline, or it could be months before cb is released. :( Not fair! ;)
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Post by: Marlow on March 15, 2004, 06:33:22 pm
This idea just dawned on me. Maybe they are doing all of this so secretly that once CB is released they will get massive reviews from magazines, websites, etc ?? meaning more sponsors, more players ?? seems to me that  this way everyone might benefit far more in the end. Anyway, the dev team has my full faith. :D
Nearly forgot to say: thank you very much Mogura. :D
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Post by: Ranegyn on March 16, 2004, 07:17:00 pm
They\'re doing it so they\'ll get massive hits to their site by forcing poeple to constantly check if it\'s released.

I know that if I knew it was coming out in 2 months time I wouldn\'t log for 2 months.



Ooooor....



maybe it\'s not a sneaky publicity stunt and they just don\'t want to get peoples hopes up by giving them a date,  since they don\'t really have one.
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Post by: Marlow on March 16, 2004, 08:08:24 pm
I can?t nor wont deny the possibilities you have laid out, but I tend to be an optimist. Plus, I?m new here so I haven?t waited too long. Therefore, I still retain some of my sanity (although, I?m running short on supply).  I somehow feel (more like hope) we wont have to wait much longer. :)
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Post by: karakth on March 16, 2004, 09:01:20 pm
The Devs have contributors and new people could join the team and some people might leave the team due to RL issues. No-one\'s bound with any contracts, like in commercial games, so an exact release date is hard to estimate and can change day to day. And that would be just frustrating for us. So they don\'t give us a date, and spare our frustration :)
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Post by: Ikarsik on March 17, 2004, 12:19:47 pm
hmm concrete facts about CB... programming is finished i think... but lol just guessing

Too bad they havnt released artwork but more of a surprise when CB comes out.

It WILL be out this year *cough* lol i hope

new graphical user interface. Thats all i got to see when i built it because i couldnt use the hotkeys when i built cvs \"boohoo\".

Thats my concrete facts.

also some other concrete facts are there are enough 3d devs to give us lots of material in the game and enough programmers too.

Im never sure about background and sound departments but anyway.
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Post by: lynx_lupo on March 17, 2004, 10:27:42 pm
Programming is never finsihed...
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Post by: snow_RAveN on March 18, 2004, 04:44:33 pm
true dat

but we still got UT 04  to wait on and its comming or has came out theres the mutiplayer demo so shearch round fer it
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Post by: Kixie on March 18, 2004, 04:45:56 pm
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Originally posted by lynx_lupo
Programming is never finsihed...


HAH! say that to counter strike! Wait.. a mod came out last week... Errr never mind :P
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Post by: Azlon on March 18, 2004, 05:43:39 pm
Just a question. Do they have a idea of when it will be finished? Cus I remember it was suppose to come out a long time ago but something happened.
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Post by: Xordan on March 18, 2004, 05:51:48 pm
The game will never be finished. It will always be updated. As for CB, yes they probably do have some sort of target.
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Post by: Azlon on March 18, 2004, 05:57:15 pm
Well do you know when the target date is?
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Post by: XpYtZ on March 18, 2004, 07:09:48 pm
Simple answer: No.
Long answer: Uh,
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Moogie: no, I don\'t want to miss another date  
it will probably be release without a prior notice
 so again. No.
 :)
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Post by: karakth on March 18, 2004, 07:37:48 pm
I don\'t think they\'re working with a deadline in mind. Rather, they\'re working with goals (i.e. \"In CB, we have to have this, this, and this.\"). CB will come out when the goals are acheived, which could take as long as it takes because of problems that need solving, real life getting in the way, etc.
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Post by: Azlon on March 18, 2004, 09:27:55 pm
Argghhhh. I cant wait any longer. I might actually get a job to pay for Everquest. Quick someone help me out.
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Post by: acraig on March 18, 2004, 09:40:57 pm
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Originally posted by Azlon
Argghhhh. I cant wait any longer. I might actually get a job to pay for Everquest. Quick someone help me out.


I wish I could quit my job to work on PS :).  But despite the lack up updates on the site we are all working really hard on things.  Just some things take longer then we thought and it is hard to work with several moving targets ( ie Crystal Space changes a lot as well  and often with changes we need ).  So trying to maintain a stable build is often not that easy.  But we will get \'round to releasing Crystal Blue sometime :)
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Post by: Xordan on March 18, 2004, 09:46:40 pm
lol, acraig. :D

Remember people, that even the cvs history isn\'t everything. All the art and sound also has to be done, which takes alot of time, so alot more is being done than is seen. :)
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Post by: Azlon on March 18, 2004, 09:47:32 pm
Thanks acraig! But do you have any suggestions for me to do while I wait? Ive already twiddle my thumbs, count the specs on the roof, and are about to finish putting stickies all over the wall. Im extremely bored. And I just found out that no one will hire me:(. Im a hopeless loser.
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Post by: Thardin on March 18, 2004, 10:39:02 pm
I try to help the dev team by submitting to Laanx Wheel of Wishes (http://lww.demon-host.com). I had no experience with 3d modelling before, but I really like it. Maybe you can do something like that too?
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Post by: ForteX on March 18, 2004, 11:56:28 pm
Just read some info on the cvs... it will be sooo awesome =)

About the target date... well... you can always check http://www.mmorpg.com or http://www.betawatcher.com for some mmorpg info.

If the models are in the quality of the dwarve on the index it will be very nice ^^

Also, about the delays, target dates, etc... take a look at the major game companies. There are games like Fable (Awesome RPG, will change the singleplayer roleplay concept :) ) that are delayed a lot and have more people and obviously money working on it. Delay is not a problem unless the game/team doesn\'t get anything from this delay. I believe that both the team and the game are getting major improvement, since the developers get more and more experienced, doing such hard coding in a short time. IMO, developers, take your time, because I see PS more as a gift to all the mmorpg players than a game. Great idea, great team, good luck ^^.
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Post by: Ikarsik on March 19, 2004, 11:53:11 am
yay art and sound will take long too