PlaneShift

Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: kyp14 on March 19, 2004, 03:37:12 am

Title: Planeshift 2D
Post by: kyp14 on March 19, 2004, 03:37:12 am
I was just wondering what happened to the orignal Planeshift (the 2D one that I hear things about).
What was it about, what did it look like.
Is there anyone who could tell me a little bit about it and maybe post a screenshot or 2 because I\'m rather curious.
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Post by: RussianVodka on March 19, 2004, 03:59:55 am
i have no idia... i have never heard of it.... maby you miss heard???

If it does exist... maby the devs could release it just to keep people bussy until CB comes?
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Post by: Moogie on March 19, 2004, 04:11:29 am
PlaneShift 2D was the first incarnation of the game since it began development in \'94. They wouldn\'t be able to release it now because it would need a server and everything for people to connect to. Besides, not even Talad has it anymore.
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Post by: snow_RAveN on March 19, 2004, 04:47:06 am
planeshift in 20d system would be nice .......
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Post by: Null_Void on March 19, 2004, 05:48:05 am
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Originally posted by snow_RAveN
planeshift in 20d system would be nice .......


I mean... wow.  I like to spend time trying to visualize shapes with more than 3 spatial dimensions.  But you know, I\'d just have trouble keeping track of 20 of them.  There\'s no real good reason for it, though... I mean, it\'s just taking expansion from x-dimensions to x+1-dimensions and iterating it all the way to x=20... but I\'m still having trouble picturing a 20 dimensional \"cube\" (or whatever it would be called) in my mind.
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Post by: snow_RAveN on March 19, 2004, 06:01:42 am
hmm 20d means a twenty sided dice if you play table top games you\'ll know what i mean ...
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Post by: Azlon on March 19, 2004, 06:09:19 am
In theory everything that is 3d is infiniteD. after 3rd deminsion human eyes cant interpret the aspects of the other deminsions.and if your thinking well if i cant see them there not there. well if you cant see them doesnt mean something else cant see them.
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***EDIT*** Im high so ignore this babble.
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Post by: Azlon on March 19, 2004, 06:14:34 am
and snowraven your wrong. a 3d dice has 6 sides. if it was 20d it would be greater then 20 sides.
***EDIT still high. oh and i think it would have 40 sides.
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Post by: snow_RAveN on March 19, 2004, 06:32:13 am
yes a 3d dice is a 6 sides dice but so has a 6d dice

for the simple reason there is no 3 sided 3D object
3d just means a 6d dice with a roll of
1,2 = 1
3,4 = 2
5,6 = 3
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Post by: Androgos on March 19, 2004, 07:36:36 am
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Originally posted by kyp14
I was just wondering what happened to the orignal Planeshift (the 2D one that I hear things about).
What was it about, what did it look like.
Is there anyone who could tell me a little bit about it and maybe post a screenshot or 2 because I\'m rather curious.


The first PlaneShift was a MUD IIRC.
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Post by: hook on March 19, 2004, 08:12:08 am
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Originally posted by Androgos
The first PlaneShift was a MUD IIRC.


i know that too ...the planeshift 2D was the second incarnation - a graphical MUD and for it\'s graphics were renders of the 3D world we\'re in now. ...but i haven\'t seen it, that\'s just what i was told
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Post by: Olig on March 19, 2004, 08:22:48 am
Our little Planeshift has grown so big and so fast. Well, maybe not fast. :P

*1994 was 10 years ago!!! OMG!! I cant beleive it.....  My favorite film of all time came out in \'94.
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Post by: Niber on March 19, 2004, 09:01:50 am
I think it\'s on Italian languege.
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Post by: kyp14 on March 19, 2004, 10:50:51 am
wow there was even more than 1 incarnation.

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Besides, not even Talad has it anymore.


hmm are you sure he would throw away his work.

I don\'t want to play, it I just wanted to know what it was like and maybe see what it was like, it would be interesting.
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Post by: Kiva on March 19, 2004, 02:51:24 pm
Talad has it somewhere, he told me. However, both the client and server is in Italian, and it\'s difficult to set up so it works (that\'s what he told me), so just keep playing 3D instead. :)

By the way, about the dices stuff.

The number before the D indicates how many dices to roll, and the number after the D indicates how many sides the dice has, therefor 20D means 20 dices, not a 20-sided dice. :)
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Post by: The Gumster on March 19, 2004, 04:02:12 pm
what is a dice for (in the game that is).
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Post by: hook on March 19, 2004, 06:46:23 pm
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Originally posted by The Gumster
what is a dice for (in the game that is).


oh, ye gods ...you\'re not serious are you?

all RPGs (at least that i know of) are dice based.

what does a dice do? ...let\'s say you hit someone with a sword there\'s only you and he around, to keep it very simple:

you roll a dice for attack (let\'s say your attack is 1-8, again keeping it very simple on one dice): it\'s a 8-sided dice, and let\'s say you roll 6
then the opponent throws his defence dices (let\'s say his armour gives him 1-5 and his helmet 0-3): so it\'s two dices one 5-sided and one 4-sided ...let\'s say he throws 4 and 1
in the end (what you see) your attack has cost him 1 HP  ... 6-(4+1)=1

that\'s a very simple example ...most RPGs (and even AD&D board games) have more complex dice throwing
in games the dice are simulated with intervallic random calls (for a 4-sided from 0-3 dice it\'s a random number between 0 and 3)

oh, and when you see things listed as 2d4, the first number means the number of dices that will be used for that roll and the second the sides each of these dices has ...so 2d4 are two 4-sided dices, 3d12 are three 12-sided dices and so on

...why not just use a 8-sided dice instead of two 4-sided ones? ...because it\'s not the same outcome one 8-sided can drop on 1-8, while if you throw two 4-sided ones it\'s 2-8
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Post by: The Gumster on March 19, 2004, 08:10:11 pm
aaaah, so dice is for paper&pen RPG\'s?
and RPG\'s that are video games use the machine to throw a dice for them and takes hp without the dice throwing?
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Post by: hook on March 19, 2004, 09:31:16 pm
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Originally posted by The Gumster
aaaah, so dice is for paper&pen RPG\'s?
and RPG\'s that are video games use the machine to throw a dice for them and takes hp without the dice throwing?

you got it now :] ...so basically there\'s dices in every RPG game.
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Post by: The Gumster on March 19, 2004, 09:39:04 pm
now i get it :D in paper&pen RPG there are real dices, in other RPG\'s that you play on computers, there is a chance machine that \'throws\' a dice, and works it out. :)
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Post by: shadowmancer on March 19, 2004, 09:40:12 pm
Yes, edit a unit in Warcraft 3 world editor. The damage is expressed in dice.
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Post by: Icefalcon on March 19, 2004, 11:17:28 pm
hahaha...dices, there one die, two dice...
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Post by: Krispy on March 20, 2004, 01:58:42 am
Yes, the proper notation for dice is \"# d#\", for exaple to denote say, 3, 10 sided dice you would write: \"3 d10\".
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Post by: Zeonire on March 20, 2004, 05:27:43 am
hmmm...i have a relevant question.

What is the /roll command for? It doesn\'t do anything for us....but is it there for fun? Will it actually have some funciton in cb?
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Post by: Thardin on March 20, 2004, 11:33:06 am
It is just there to give us something to do till cb comes out. It is sometimes used to roleplay a battle (pen & paper like). Or it is used for gambling... you name it.
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Post by: hook on March 20, 2004, 12:25:04 pm
the /roll command is there for players (in MB) to be able to play some things like they would with a pen&paper RPG ...so if they want they can battle with rolling dices (i\'ve seen that happen a few times already)
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Post by: Moogie on March 20, 2004, 08:19:27 pm
Dice and /rolling are not relevant to this thread. Back to the topic of PS2D or create a dice thread elsewhere. :)
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Post by: kyp14 on March 21, 2004, 12:31:05 pm
So I\'m guessing only talad has information on the old Planeshifts.
It would still be interesting to see what it looked like, I wonder if he would post a few screenies.
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Post by: The Gumster on March 21, 2004, 05:51:58 pm
was PS2D a point&click game then?
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Post by: kyp14 on March 22, 2004, 12:00:30 am
Thats what I\'m trying to find out.
And get a few screenies :D
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Post by: Axsyrus on March 22, 2004, 01:24:46 am
*wonders if anyone of you read this thread before posting in it*

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Originally posted by Androgos
The first PlaneShift was a MUD IIRC.


i know that too ...the planeshift 2D was the second incarnation - a graphical MUD and for it\'s graphics were renders of the 3D world we\'re in now. ...but i haven\'t seen it, that\'s just what i was told


If you don\'t know what an MUD is: http://www.google.com http://www.wikipedia.com ..
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Post by: kyp14 on March 22, 2004, 04:58:34 am
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i know that too ...the planeshift 2D was the second incarnation - a graphical MUD and for it\'s graphics were renders of the 3D world we\'re in now. ...but i haven\'t seen it, that\'s just what i was told


ahh I get it, I did read that before. just didnt\' catch on. lol

So basically all those pre rendered images we\'ve seen around like that one of the door and the city are most likely from that game.
These ones, would you think they were used for the 2nd Planeshift.
(http://www.planeshift.it/pix/pics/render/bronzedoors.jpg)
(http://www.planeshift.it/pix/pics/render/darkrock.jpg)
(http://www.planeshift.it/pix/pics/render/ojaveda.jpg)
Am I right.