PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kuiper7986 on March 21, 2004, 05:37:09 pm
-
HYPOTHETICALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <------
If there was some sort of laser magic like a spell that shoots a laser beam, what type of magic would that go under? I remember in Chrono Trigger, Robo had a laser and the old dude in the time portal said that it Robo\'s laser is considered shadow magic or in this case dark magic.
Would a laser be considered dark magic? If you believe differently or if you have any opinions on what type of magic \"laser\" magic should be, please reply.
EDIT: sorry, I mean also the laser beam is pure light, with no elemental properties, just a very hot laser that burns.
-
possibly fire?
-
Well, if you think about it... the consentrated light that you get when burning things with a magnifying glass is sorta like a weak laser... and considering that you are talking about a \"pure light\" beam, i guess it would fall under light magic...
-
do you mean like light and dark magic or light and heavy magic?
-
I mean light and dark magic.
But if you really think abstract, it can be considered because a laser is artificial, it has no life, so in a very very abstract symbolic sort of way it can be almost considered dark magic.
-
Alright...
1) There is no such thing as a light way. You are probably referring to the crystal way, which deals in Life and Light.
2) The laser beam would be under two ways: Crystal and Red. Crystal because it is light, and Red because it is directly destructive using heat.
-
No I\'m not taking about a way, hence I used the word magic instead of way. I\'m referring to general magic not a specific way.
Yes it can be under light magic and fire magic.
-
Originally posted by karakth
Alright...
1) There is no such thing as a light way. You are probably referring to the crystal way, which deals in Life and Light.
2) The laser beam would be under two ways: Crystal and Red. Crystal because it is light, and Red because it is directly destructive using heat.
I agree with you 100%. Though I really hope there won\'t be any laser beam spells in PS. They are more sci-fi, lightning bolts and fireballs are great. :tongue:
-
simple beam of light would obviously go under Crystal Way. Now that considering laser is just powerful type of beam of light, it\'ll stay in that way. No, it shouldn\'t go under Red Way.
Kuiper7986: saying something is light/fire magic is same as saying specific Way... what\'s your point?
-
You\'d need a way to make the light hot enough to cause damage. That\'s where the Red way comes in. Followers of both the Red way and the Crystal way would be able to cast the spell, IMHO.
-
LASER Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation
Whatever that means, I\'d say you\'d use crystal way ase the base light and then use red way, or perhaps even some others too, to \"amplificate it by stimulated emission of radiation\". To make it simple, it could just be crystal only.
BTW this discussion reminded me of Balefire in the Wheel of Time books, that would be a nice spell to have in PS.
-
Originally posted by Nikech
LASER Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation
and you could put that under the fact that Azure Sun is emiting radiation... and this would put it directly under Crystal Way
Also remember that it should be created by magic so it\'s just a beam of light.
-
I have no point Draklar, I\'m a pot-head crack addict.
We can infer that the crystal way usually deals with protective spells, holy spells, cure spells, etc... A laser isn\'t really considered holy, at least I\'ve never heard of it being holy.
-
laser is just a concentrated beam of light, so it should be considered crystal way, because crystal way is light. :)
-
Isn\'t the Azure sun the source of all magic in Yliakum? So it isn\'t just the Crystal way followers that use its power.
-
yes, but unlike all other ways, Crystal Way uses the pure energy given by the Azure Sun.
Also other thing: Red Way is pretty much about chaos. Laser seems to be harmonic to me *shrugs*
-
Originally posted by Draklar
yes, but unlike all other ways, Crystal Way uses the pure energy given by the Azure Sun.
Also other thing: Red Way is pretty much about chaos. Laser seems to be harmonic to me *shrugs*
I\'m afraid I have to back Draklar here. (on Crystal having laser)
The Azure sun emits light, light is a form of radiation.
If the Crystal way focuses pure energy from the crystal then it is focusing light, radiation.
However, if \'pure\' means good/wholesome/healing...
But it\'s called the \"Crystal Way\" Thusly it depends on the powers of the crystal, radiation is one of those.
Therefore...
The Red way is focused on fire.
It\'s also focused on destructive spells.
Fire emits light (radiation) and heat.
Although fire\'s light is dim, it\'s still light.
...and a laser spell would be a direct attack spell, no?
Therefore...
Both Crystal and Red ways have this spell.
-
Originally posted by Monketh
...and a laser spell would be a direct attack spell, no?
Crystal Way has offensive spells as well (particularly effective against dark creatures).
also: Red Way concentrates on chaos and devastating fury of fire. I wouldn\'t say laser is anywhere near chaotic or furious type of spell...
-
Yes I would imagine the spells of the crystall way would be something like Sunbeam from DnD, which can instantly kill vampires. Or turn undead, etc.
Edit: Sorry I was eating pizza and hit the post button by accident. As I was saying, the spells would be harmful but especially to undead. How would a laser be more harmful to undead than to other stuff?
-
ya Drak\'s right, a laser is a really organized and shoots straight to a pinpoint location. I mean then Karakth would kinda be right because if what Draklar says claims to be true, then the energy from the crystal sun would be classed as \"holy magic,\" which would in term do serious damage to undead and dark creatures.
-
Originally posted by karakth
How would a laser be more harmful to undead than to other stuff?
and how would casting beam of azure-sunlight (;)) be effective against undead? It\'s all the same, only laser is concentrated light... Light might destroy creatures formed by darkness *shrugs* who knows... :P
-
And now, the thread-killer reply:
Let\'s just wait until a version of PS comes out which includes a spell like laser and find out.
*Tosses a flower onto the thread\'s coffin*
-
ok, I think it\'s kinda obvious that laser == light and light == crystal way(or light magic for that matter), so I don\'t know why you had to discuss this for so long.. all offensive spells in the crystal way could be considered lasers, but I really don\'t think they\'ll be named like that.
Originally posted by Kuiper7986
I have no point Draklar, I\'m a pot-head crack addict.
Just to inform you, spam = stupid pointless annoying message(and no, this isn\'t \"official\" ).
-
the point was that I had no point, so in theory I did have a point. Muahahaha!!
Lasers should be defined as a mix of magic. Because the outcome of an intense beam is usually fire, although the main beam itself is energy.
-
Most spells are a mix of glyphs - not just LASER beams - even something as obviously Red Way as a Fireball can include glyphs from different ways.
-
well that sure was bad example... Fireball is pure Red Way...
chaos and devastating fury of fire... yea, it\'s all about that...
-
the depends purely on how you made the fireball
-
Druke is right.
A fireball like a meteor? (The rock counts as brown way and fire is red)
or
A fireball of pure fire that looks like a ball. Like when you cast Firaga in Final Fantasy series. (Just red way since its pure fire)
-
EDIT: removed the quote, I thinks it\'s more clear to see what I\'m responding to now.
Does the outcome really matter? the spell only creates the beam..(the beam in turn creates fire, the fire creates ashes, the ashes make plants grow better, so you could even put it in the brown way like this! )
And do we really have to discuss the correctness of an example now..
-
why yes, we must discuss the correctness of it now. :P
You just love quoting me all the time. I understand if you care about me a lot. No need to be ashamed. ;)
-
Originally posted by Kuiper7986
A fireball like a meteor?
how about fireball like a fireball? As in.... ball of fire
meteor is completely different spell...
-
Hmm I think what determines the way(s) needed to make a spell are from what elements it is made up, not what it will result in (I think this was your pont, Ax). A laser is made up of light and heat so crystal and red.
Of course then there\'s always infrared radiation, but go figure :-/
Anyway, since the fireball example didn\'t seem to quite fit, how about illusions? Azure, obviously. But aren\'t illusions the manipulation of light, which would then be crystal way?
-
how about not looking at how it is made up neither what does it result with, but actually what it is?
laser = beam of light
fireball = ball of fire
some spells, sure, could use more ways, but when we talk about laser:
you can\'t put it under fire magic - it isn\'t fire, it\'s light
you can\'t put it under Red Way - laser isn\'t chaotic nor furious.
-
He just wanted to know how was this fireball made? So I gave a few ways how a fireball could be made, because right now no has actually defined a \"fireball,\" yet.
EDIT: Oh yah and Drak has a point, its a fantasy game, no one every really said that if there was a laser beam it would cause a fire. Maybe on impact it causes lots of particles or something to explode like fireworks or something.
-
Let us remind ourselves that the Crystal Way is not holy/divine stuff. Yes, it\'s famous for it\'s ability to cure and heal, but let\'s not forget the last sentence of the Crystal Way settings:
\"Nonetheless there are many powerful offensive spells, particularly effective against evil and dark creatures.\"
This does NOT make the Crystal Way all holy and such, however the spells are simply more effective against an evil or dark creature than other creatures. This, however, doesn\'t mean that it doesn\'t hurt them. Oh no... It\'ll hurt. :)
As for the laser stuff.
Laser is light. If you shoot a laser through a prism, it is split into colors, therefor it is light. It is a very strong light however, and this is why it burns things, however it has nothing to do with fire. It is a known fact that if something gets hot enough, it burns, but that doesn\'t mean it\'s made of fire. :)
-
What is the point of this thread? First of all, who cares what kind of spell a laser is. Second, are they even supposed to be in game? Third, I hope not. Fourth, if they are, the devs will make them whatever type of spell they feel it should be. No offense but this thread seems like somone was just trying to increase their post count or something, because that question is completely pointless.
-
who cares what kind of spell a laser is
people that took part in the discussion?
If you don\'t like it, don\'t read it... geez...[/color]
-
Originally posted by Dalec
What is the point of this thread?
A great example of a normal thread, it starts out just fine, discussing about laser spell this time, but then it degenerates into discussing something that has little to do with the original subject, like fireballs and such. And finally the thread looks like this, we\'re discussing what\'s the point of the thread...
-
Meh, back to lasers.
Ok, so, does everyone agree it needs only crystal glyphs to cast?
Good, end of discussion.
P.S. Yes, this means I concede and agree that it is purely crystal, very good points raised there :)
-
Crystal is indeed the best choice for a laser spell as far as I am concerned with magic.
Since not all laser beams are red, but also green, blue etc (don\'t know if they\'re filtered then or if you can make laser beams of another color) you could have specialized laser spells for different ways.
-
well Thardin, the color of a laser is all dependant on the gas medium used in the excitement chamber. ie a gas argon laser. There are solid state lasers out there but they are little more than high intensity flashlight in a narrow spectrum band. just a fyi
-
To beat a dead horse.
Webster?s Dictionary (for the English equivalent of the word LASER)
Pronunciation: \'lA-z&r
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation
: a device that utilizes the natural oscillations of atoms or molecules between energy levels for generating coherent electromagnetic radiation usually in the ultraviolet, visible, or infrared regions of the spectrum
[/SIZE]
To sum up: Light and the electromagnetic impulses that of.
Crystal would be my thought for a Way. As for the original question (light or dark, meaning good or bad/chaotic or organized.) I?d have to be in with the light side since, in the case of ?L4+?, a laser needs to be extremely organized in order to function properly.
This being a fantasy game though, I think ?laser-esque? spells can go, well?wherever they want! :)
P.S.Congrats to Draklar for a point well made.
And slabertooch. Jeez thats crazy man.
-
Originally posted by slabertooch
well Thardin, the color of a laser is all dependant on the gas medium used in the excitement chamber. ie a gas argon laser. There are solid state lasers out there but they are little more than high intensity flashlight in a narrow spectrum band. just a fyi
AFAIK solid state lasers are able to be as powerfull as gas lasers. The problem is most solid state lasers use crystals( for example rubin) which are expensive to produce in the needed quality and size for a strong solid state laser.
Also you produce the beam by pulsing the medium with light.
So I think lasers should be only in crystal way. The highly ordered structure of the beam itself and that the heat is only a secondary effect are against the the red way.
-
jsut what do these lasers do and how do they do it?! that would determine the way, simple as that
-
1) they harm
2) by being a powerful beams of light?
and this doesn\'t change anything... it was proven few times that it\'s just Crystal Way...
slabertooch: isn\'t a 700 KB sig a bit.... crazy?
-
i do not think the laser (if it will be in PS) spell should be in the red way, \'cause you can control laser and the red way is chaotic, you can not control chaos because chaos is lack of order and you need order to control.
QED
-
then yes lasers that mearly harm harm would be red way mixxed with a bit of crystal
why is it such a depate?
-
harm doesn\'t mean Red Way,
if Crystal Way has some powerful offensive spells then it can harm as well, no?
-
My thoughts:
Crystal way has offensive as well as defensive and healing spells so another way wouldnt be needed to cast an offensive spell. A lazer is made of light and can cause heat damage and even fire, but it is not made of fire nor heat so the red way would not be needed in such a spell. To me it seems like lazer, or sunbeam, or light shaft, or whatever such a spell would be called would be used to turn undead or evil creatures. This fits with the crystal way if im not mistaken. The way i see it a light beam spell would be purely crystal way.
-
Just to be pedantic, I\'ll have to disagree with Gronomist who said that \"when a laser passes through a prism it will be broken up into different colours\".
The whole point of a laser is that every bit of the light is a) the same frequency (colour) and b) also in phase, so that the combined effect is more powerful than an ordinary red beam of light.
To me, a \"laser beam\" would be a searing ray of heat, which caused the air around it to glow brightly. The purpose of such a ray would be destructive, not illuminating, so I would put it in the Red way. It would be pointless, however, to think of it as a laser, unless someone was to construct such a device out of crystals and power it with magic.
\"Light\" in the context of magic is usually light without heat; magical lights have a reputation for being cold, since they are \"pure\" light, free from the destructive effects of radiation.
-
when will people start to read all the posts?
you can\'t put it under fire magic - it isn\'t fire, it\'s light
you can\'t put it under Red Way - laser isn\'t chaotic nor furious.
and most of all read the first one. It\'s if there was a laser spell then what type of magic would it be.[/color]
-
Crystal Way
Harnesses the pure energy of the Crystal more directly than any other Way. Famous for the ability to heal and cure the most terrible wounds. Some say that if one reaches a high level of knowledge in this Way, they can bring a person back to life. Nonetheless, there are many powerful offensive spells as well, particularly effective against evil and dark creatures.
Focus: Energy, Life and Light Mental Stat: Charisma
Azure Way
Azure energy is a sneak, insidious energy that can control the will, the perceptions and the intentions of any intelligent being. Its power comes from the deep knowledge of the mind and how to influence it, but it also relies on the potential of the mind to influence the surrounding areas and objects ? mainly all that is related to the air element.
Focus: Mind, Illusions and Air Element Mental Stat: Will
Blue Way
Many diseases and poisons would be incurable without the spells of this Way. The offensive and defensive potential of this art resides mainly in the control of the water element, but also in cold and ice. Equally inestimable are the divination spells that can provide very useful information on the past, present and future.
Focus: Divination, Purification, and Water Element Mental Stat: Intelligence
Red Way
The spellcaster is able to invoke the power of Chaos and bend the devastating fury of fire to his will. Other spells allow the caster to instil courage and strength to weaker creatures and companions.
Focus: Strength, Chaos, and Fire Element Mental Stat: Will
Brown Way
Using the glyphs of this Way gives the spellcaster the ability to cast different protective spells, to summon natural creatures and some monsters and influence their will. This Way is very aligned to Earth and all that is related to it.
Focus: Nature, Protective Magic and Earth Element Mental Stat: Intelligence
Dark Way
It is well know that many disasters and epidemics were caused by the adepts of this ancient Way, which makes use of spells with terrifying effects. Things can become even worse than the spellcaster intended if they lose hold of this power. Some spells enable the control of horrific creatures such as undeads, demons and spirits.
Focus: Entropy, Death and Darkness Mental Stat: Charisma
as you can see, the \"laser\" would vary in ways depending on its damage type, thats wh i say, what does it do, and you say it hurt someone, i say how(fire, freeze, etc.)
-
invoke the power of Chaos and bend the devastating fury of fire to his will. - not laser
The offensive and defensive potential of this art resides mainly in the control of the water element, but also in cold and ice - not laser
Azure energy is a sneak, insidious energy that can control the will, the perceptions and the intentions of any intelligent being. - not laser
ability to cast different protective spells, to summon natural creatures and some monsters and influence their will. - not laser
Some spells enable the control of horrific creatures such as undeads, demons and spirits. - not laser
Nonetheless, there are many powerful offensive spells as well, particularly effective against evil and dark creatures. - some kind of light spell (laser)
comments needed?
-
where does it specify wether its laser or not?, light doesn\'t have to be laser, and and etc.
-
...laser is light...
anyway, give me one reason why laser shouldn\'t be in Crystal Way.
-
im not saying it shouldn\'t, i\'m saying the crystal sin\'t the only one that could have lasers, and all offensive crystal spells aren\'t necisarily(typo i know) lasers
-
read my post, laser can\'t be put in any other Way
-
blah, who cares about laser anyway??
The only thing it\'ll do is damage your eye if you look directly at it for an extended period of time... oh, and some enhanced science equipment is utilizing it to modify the molecular structure of stuff in water, but who cares about that? :P
-
Ever heard of NASA\'s Star Wars project? I rest my case. ;)
And don\'t say it works only with missiles, they also plan on destroying missiles by laser beams.
-
Yeah, they have thought of using lasers. But i still think their first idea to blow the missile with the explosion of a nuclear missile near it was better.
And whatever, Crystal sux, way of the healing with weak offensive and the only offensive magic will be through laser now... Bah, a big explosion is so easier and so more effective...
-
Originally posted by Thardin
Ever heard of NASA\'s Star Wars project? I rest my case. ;)
And don\'t say it works only with missiles, they also plan on destroying missiles by laser beams.
yes and that was just plain stupid...
-
If you want power, use bursts (red)
If you want control, use mind (azure)
Lasers are weak AND costly AND hard to control. No reason that the Nasa never ended its stupid project
-
Uh, I thought the first post said ?hypothetically!!!!!!!!!?
No Laser spells have been mentioned to really exist in game nor was there any talk ?till recently- of them being a game aspect. The question was: if there were a spell that acted laser like what kind of magic would it be? Light (being good) or Dark (being bad)? When did this become about putting them in?
This in no way changes that a real laser can do extreme amounts of damage -no matter what you think you?ve read I?ve seen them burn through three inch plates of steel in seconds- and are made of light. But the question was I?ll quote.
HYPOTHETICALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <------
If there was some sort of laser magic like a spell that shoots a laser beam, what type of magic would that go under? I remember in Chrono Trigger, Robo had a laser and the old dude in the time portal said that it Robo\'s laser is considered shadow magic or in this case dark magic.
Would a laser be considered dark magic? If you believe differently or if you have any opinions on what type of magic \"laser\" magic should be, please reply.
EDIT: sorry, I mean also the laser beam is pure light, with no elemental properties, just a very hot laser that burns.
[/SIZE] Again I say Light because:
A: it is highly organized.
B: it is made of light and energy.
And in the case of a Way since you all seem to need to speak about it that way.
Crystal, for this simple reason: ?pure light with no elemental properties?
-
yea, but there\'s
if you have any opinions on what type of magic \"laser\" magic should be, please reply.
so any type of magic can be put into thought[/color]
-
but the only logical Way it can be considered to be in is Crystal, not Red Way, because Red is Chaos and Chaos isnt organized.
-
you know... I said that few times already...
-
pff.. I was hoping that this thread would have been gone after a while..
Druke, HOW do you think all these other ways can be light, like I(and other people) already said a hundred of times, LASER == LIGTH (that\'s what the L stands for..).
Gumster: stop repeating what other people have said all the time..
-
i was meaning in combonation
-
Ok, back to topic (i was going a bit ot in my lasts posts)
No, i don\'t agree with the previous posts.
A magic laser isn\'t forcely organized. Real life ones are, but you can\'t really see it when you look at it, so why wanting PS implementing organized crystals?
A laser is just a thin beam which go straightforwards. Red can cast beam of fire, Azure can use rays of command ...
-
beam of fire isn\'t laser anymore...
-
Why?
This only a question of naming. If this is a thin beam, it is.
If this is something who was invented in the last century and that require high-tech stuff, it is not but lasers have nothing to do in Yliakum magic then. We are not a technologic world. Things can be named similar if they behave similar and look similar (thin beam who go straightforward for a laser). There\'s no reason to define something according to what it is constitued.
-
well I have nothing else to say than go and read the starting post. Especially the first word. It was made so visible for a purpose you know. Oh, and while yer at it, read the rest of it: Laser, a beam of light - what type of magic would it be.
-
That\'s not because the first post states a laser is a beam of light that we are forced to agree on this. And as you may have noticed, i don\'t. This is a forum, we can discuss and argue, even if we don\'t agree with the first post.
So i still say that a laser isn\'t forced to be made of light, as long as it looks similar.
-
in this moment you are going off-topic.
The topic of discussion is if there was a laser spell (which would be a pure beam of light) then what magic type would it go under.
-
it depends on how the laser is made and what the laser does
-
Originally posted by Draklar
in this moment you are going off-topic.
The topic of discussion is if there was a laser spell (which would be a pure beam of light) then what magic type would it go under.
Probably another definition we don\'t share: off-topic.
So because i\'m arguing about a laser is not a beam of light in a thread beginning by Laser - a beam of light, i\'m off-topic.
-
It\'s a laser! It\'s made of light! how hard is this to grasp? It burns through things using intense light and electromagnetic energy.
/me walks away shaking head.
Anything we want it to be. I suppose if you want to redefine the term to say, \"Any highly pressurised burst of linear elemental or magical energy.\" than yes Druke you would have a point.
-
Originally posted by elscouta
So because i\'m arguing about a laser is not a beam of light in a thread beginning by Laser - a beam of light, i\'m off-topic.
is it that hard to understand? hypothetical, laser being a beam of pure light, what type of spell would it be.
but by deffinition laser is a beam of light. What\'s the point of joining a discussion if you have your own deffinitions for stuff?
-
Yay. We\'ve produced a useless ray of light. I suppose you could try and get in your enemy\'s eyes and blind them for a second or two...maybe.
-
Originally posted by XpYtZ
It\'s a laser! It\'s made of light! how hard is this to grasp? It burns through things using intense light and electromagnetic energy.
well thats incorrect a laser is not light.
to understand this you msut understand what light is.Light is energy, the energy measures on a certain point in the Electromagnetic Spectrum.
whats this mean?? what difference does it make??
Well \"laser\" type energy is on the spectum as well as its own section, some wraps over the light section, some doesn\'t, not all lasers give off light.
So the actual statement ahould say
\"Laser = Energy\"
while also not forgetting
\"light = Energy\"
or
\"Sound = Energy\"
or even
\"Microwaves and Radiation = Energy\"
-
{edited} After extensive research I withdraw the previous argument which existed in this post. {edited}
Dev\'s please remove.
[edit] No, no Druke I concede. There are actual lasers that do use non-light energy. Congrats. Learning is fun! [/edit]
-
hmm i think your right, thats why microwaves aren;t considered lasers
-
I believe Axsyrus said that already: L in \'laser\' stands for \'light\'
-
AFAIK the light is in laser cause you use light to cause emission of the beam.
You pulse a medium at a very high frequence with light. In the medium some atoms/molecules absorb photones, change their energy status. Then emits a new photon and go back to their original energy status. The frequence of the emited photone depends on the medium.
I think it is theoretically possible to produce a microwave laser, if you find a medium which emits microwaves. If you can find such a medium i dont know. (Light and microwaves are both electromagnetic rays only on different frequencies,and for example there are x-ray lasers.)
-
Actually guys I withdrew a really good explination of why you could not have a laser that does not use light because I looked into it and apparently they have some that do not use the energy we call light, like the X-Ray ones--not strictly light.
However this does not negate the fact that the opening post was asking about a laser that not only used that energy but was made of light and magical.
-
looking at the beginning post...
\"If there was some sort of laser magic like a spell that shoots a laser beam (http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/laser+beam)\"
should be enough...
-
That explanation is totally wrong.
Lasers are light. Not all lasers are visible light but not all light is visible either.
Laser is an acronym for Light Amplification through Stimulated Emission of Radiation, iirc. That is to say so much is it light, that light is in its name. :-)
Microwaves aren\'t lasers because not all lights are lasers--for example the lightbulb in the lamp next to you is not giving off laser light.
However, there is such a thing as a microwave laser, just like there is a red light laser people use to annoy others at a theater.
Gosh I\'m glad I haven\'t read this whole thread or I would probably be annoyed right now. :-)
- Venge
-
I looked it up in wikipedia and you are right the light is in the name cause the emitted beam is also light. But the description of the working is correct.
And a microwave aser (maser) works similar, but uses radio waves to cause the emission. Thats also the reason why microwaves arent lasers. So I think if you can find a medium which emits microwaves when flashed with light, it could be called a microwave laser.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_construction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maser
-
I had this nice long post sitting here..but I closed the browser window before I posted it ;(
Anyways, my point was: Laser is energy(we all agree with that, right? ). then here\'s the crystal way description again:
Crystal Way
Harnesses the pure energy of the Crystal more directly than any other Way. Famous for the ability to heal and cure the most terrible wounds. Some say that if one reaches a high level of knowledge in this Way, they can bring a person back to life. Nonetheless, there are many powerful offensive spells as well, particularly effective against evil and dark creatures.
Focus: Energy, Life and Light Mental Stat: Charisma
ok, any other questions?
-
bah! Just like I thought!
It\'s called maser, not laser!
where are those people saying the microwave thingy is called \'laser\'? :evil:
-
But what use would a laser be in PS, really? You can\'t use it to light up caverns or read books in the dark...
-
I believe that could be answered by reading all posts here... it is repeated few times anyway.
Laser would be used to harm.
-
But you\'d need a lot of energy to get a beam of light to harm, so that would mean more mana. Wouldn\'t it make more sense to use a spell of the Red way called \"Ray of fire\" or whatever?
-
and how exactly do you know how much mana would it cost?
-
*sighs*
It\'s a calculated guess because to make a harmful ray of light takes much more energy than having a beam of fire from the red way (like a fireball stretched thin).
Meh, this thread should have died ages ago. Haven\'t we reached the conclusion that laser if implemented should be crystal way?
-
one question Draklar, how long (in seconds) does it take for you to go blind by looking at the sun?? :P multiply that answer with 10^191053 and you have the mana cost.. simple, isn\'t it? :P
-
The leader is responsible for the actions of the members of his guild; if one of them goes against the rules of PlaneShift, the leader must immediately remove him from the guild.
Now stfu, draklar is completely right, so is venge. This thread is completely useles. question was answered 1231234 times already so stop posting -_-
and spamming is against the rules karakth >:|
-
karakth, my calculated guess:
giving birth to a creature just by using magic (Brown Way) should take much more energy than forming a powerful and simply chaotic fireball.
Does it mean that many spells in Brown Way are useless?
Or maybe it\'s all about the size of incantation, in which case all
laser, firebolt and small creature will use about same amount of mana?
geez, looking at magic from scientific point of view :rolleyes:
-
Lasers are not light. They are a device that produces light. Light is electromagnetic radiation just like radio waves, microwaves, and all of the other waves like x-rays, gamma rays, and heat in the form of infrared radiation. Lasers produce a very monotonic light that is also coherent. They don\'t necessarily burn through things unless the light is focused to a single point with a lens. Recent developments in lasers have produces lasers that are powerful enough to burn through things without needing the lens. But even then, they are absolutely huge. Not to be confused with something you could actually carry.
I hope this clears some things up. To prove that I\'m not talking out of my hat. I have some web sites you can visit.
LASER 1 (http://www.laserfantasy.com/abcs.asp)
LASER 2 (http://www.howstuffworks.com/laser.htm)
LASER 3 (http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy99/phy99148.htm)
EDIT Try Measuring the electromagnetic spectrum (http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/science/know_l1/emspectrum.html) A nice one.
-
The mods should REALLY delete this thread. -_-
Look, discussion over. No more silly
\"Lazer ===== light + FIRE!!!!!1111one\"
It\'s....over. Get over it. It\'s official: laser is CRYSTAL Way.
-
agreed somone should LOCK this thread X(