PlaneShift

Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: grek on April 09, 2004, 01:57:30 pm

Title: planeshift hits the big time
Post by: grek on April 09, 2004, 01:57:30 pm
well maybe not quite, but i was reading this months PCGAMER (April 2004 Issue 134) and theres a little bit on Planeshift on page 111 :) not much but thought that it was cool it was being mentioned.

the last line say \"Due for a big update any time now\", lol that made me laugh ;)
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Post by: Vengeance on April 09, 2004, 06:06:04 pm
Can you scan the section in?  I\'d love to see it.
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Post by: DepthBlade on April 09, 2004, 06:12:23 pm
Thats awesome I am sure the developers will be really happy to know that their hard work is really starting to get noticed :D
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Post by: Keung Darosyl on April 09, 2004, 06:13:13 pm
It\'s mentioned in PC Gamer?  Wow...heh, that is big time indeed...
*waits for them to write a full review*
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Post by: RussianVodka on April 09, 2004, 06:26:25 pm
go Plane Shift!!!
They should get an interview with the Devs...
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Post by: Caldazar on April 09, 2004, 08:06:06 pm
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Originally posted by Vengeance
Can you scan the section in?  I\'d love to see it.

Isn\'t that illegal? Isn\'t that against copyright-laws ?(
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Post by: DepthBlade on April 09, 2004, 08:16:18 pm
who cares just post it, There writing about PS the creators have all rights to see it scanned or in the mag !
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Post by: KwartzTheKran on April 09, 2004, 08:37:22 pm
u can quote 800 words and up to three pictures from any large works if the source is stated.
checked but cant find nothing on PC gamers website or anything.
Ill buy it tomorrow and scan if you cant get it scanned.
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Post by: Crj on April 09, 2004, 09:51:45 pm
Wow! An Open-Source and free project in a famous magazine! They write about all possible crap, like games that get 1 out of 100, but never about good free stuff.
Oh wait... there isnt much good free stuff besides Planeshift!
Unluckliy i cant buy this mgazine, i would if i could, but here it costs like 16 or 17 euro...  :(
Go Planeshift, Go!!!
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Post by: Tyrannotula on April 09, 2004, 10:42:52 pm
there is also a post on http://www.gamer.nl (dutch you can\'t read i quess) i reported it (aka MC ToZ) :D

http://www.gamer.nl/nieuws/21464
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Post by: grek on April 09, 2004, 11:04:21 pm
scanned it in but i cant get into my FTP from this computer for some reason, so if anyone wants me to e-mail the pic to them, they can upload it but i cant till 2morrow.
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Post by: KwartzTheKran on April 09, 2004, 11:26:27 pm
(http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload2/PCGArticle.jpg)

http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload2/PCGArticle2.jpg
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Post by: Kada-El on April 09, 2004, 11:37:20 pm
Planeshift first appeared in the pages of PCgamer way back in 2001, before we even had Atomic Blue. I\'ll have to see if I can dig out the tiny article for you sometime ;)

EDIT: Wait a minute, that\'s me in the article screenie! Hehe, yay! Fame at last, I\'m in an international magazine. Shouldn\'t I get some kind of commission from the mag for that? ;) :P
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Post by: Kada-El on April 10, 2004, 01:55:09 am
Against all odds I have managed to track down the PC Gamer article from 2001, with it\'s pre-AB screen shot containing the old skin for the Stonebreaker Dwarf.

Sorry for the very poor quality, my scanner is acting up, so I had to try to take a blurry photo instead :rolleyes:

(http://www.gaboby.plus.com/pcg.jpg)

\"Doesn\'t look at all innovative\"? Pah, I hope they fired that writer :P
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Post by: Tash on April 10, 2004, 02:02:35 am
whats innovative mean?
sorry for my lack of english
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Post by: Kada-El on April 10, 2004, 02:15:06 am
It means to be creative, to have new ideas, to be inventive, etc.

Hope that helps ;)
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Post by: RussianVodka on April 10, 2004, 02:39:51 am
Comon!!! PS is the only game that refused to use dragons becuase they were \"not original\". Even games that are said to be the most  \"original\" have dragons!!!! (this is just one of the many examples)
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Post by: Moogie on April 10, 2004, 02:50:47 am
Wow, nice work Kada. :) I\'m sure I\'ve seen that before... but I could\'ve sworn I didn\'t know about PS untill last year. Maybe I read this article when it was first published and took little notice due to the author\'s downputting of the project\'s potential. :P Damn him!
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Post by: Icefalcon on April 10, 2004, 03:52:51 am
Ive seen that article before too, in fact, that is one of the things that led me to this game, I saw that article online somewhere last summer before I joined the community. Then I saw it on mmorpg.com and decided to check it out. Best decision I ever made :D
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Post by: DepthBlade on April 10, 2004, 04:14:52 am
Wow that is awesome seeing a totally free game hit the big magazine :D Although with more and more publicity in these magazines you will have to start testing these servers under large ammounts of people, time to push them to the limits if you haven\'t already :D
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Post by: RussianVodka on April 10, 2004, 04:21:01 am
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 Best decision I ever made :D


*imagins your whife aimlessly fliping through some old forums from a game that has closed down years ago*
(im not saying that PS will close down... technicaly as long as people with programing skills are interested, it never will)

I just remembered that PS was in development since 1992... well, i have heard that there was also a 2d version of PS... and i have a question. Was the 2d version based on the same world with the same races as the PS we all know and love?
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Post by: Waylander on April 10, 2004, 04:33:03 am
*raises hand*  but I don\'t love Dwarves
that is great news I just stopped buying PCgamer and they review PS, how typical....Well I am off to buy the mag now, bye
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Post by: Niber on April 17, 2004, 06:09:49 pm
(http://www.niber.net/pcgamerplane.jpg)
1. Planeshift has stolen it\'s name from PlanetSide
2. The graphics is fully ok being a free game
3. lowres textures
4. might not survive without money flow
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Post by: Quwaar on April 17, 2004, 06:36:22 pm
without a money flow... Thats where sponsors are for....

HAhaha, great to see the game is getting in the open :D
Title: PlanetShift
Post by: hook on April 17, 2004, 08:32:05 pm
well, as long as they can\'t even spell the name right, i think they can just bite my fuzzy Enkidukai arse :]
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Post by: Icefalcon on April 17, 2004, 09:49:00 pm
How would it not survive? The Devs are working for free...non-profit organization. And Fragnetics is the server...What else would you need?
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Post by: Arberar on April 17, 2004, 11:59:26 pm
you don\'t need money you need motivation and that\'s what the dev\'s have ;) to make a project in their free time :p and they are very good @ it ;p
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Post by: DepthBlade on April 18, 2004, 01:13:37 am
bah reviewers! Never liked them much anyway, I am sure PS will do fine, no worries right?
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Post by: Icefalcon on April 18, 2004, 01:17:51 am
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Originally posted by Arberar
you don\'t need money you need motivation and that\'s what the dev\'s have ;) to make a project in their free time :p and they are very good @ it ;p

Exactly, they don\'t need or even want money for this project, so why make it an issue? No worries ;)
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Post by: Anatheus on April 22, 2004, 09:30:25 pm
It\'s nice to see that Planeshift is getting \"fame\" with these articles on gaming magazines, but there\'s a bad thing
about that also... It\'ll bring in more n00bs... Argh...










BTW, look, I made a sig  :)
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Post by: Xandria on April 22, 2004, 09:55:37 pm
Can they actually post a picture of the game without getting the dev\'s permission first?

Besides that, they didn\'t even have the common courtesy to drop by and say \"Hey, we\'re thinking of including an article about this game in our newspaper.\" or \"Hey, we\'ve written an article about your game in our upcoming issue, be sure to check it out.\"  I mean the latter effort would probably be enough for them to sell an additional 20 copies to people who just want to read that one article :)

I guess that\'s what you get for being lazy...
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Post by: watersa8 on April 25, 2004, 04:58:23 pm
They might have asked the Devs burt with it being an opened source project i dont think they need permision to post screenies
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Post by: Xalthar on April 25, 2004, 08:43:09 pm
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Originally posted by hook
well, as long as they can\'t even spell the name right, i think they can just bite my fuzzy Enkidukai arse :]


pfft, only swedes could be that stupid :rolleyes:
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Post by: Davis on April 25, 2004, 09:10:45 pm
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Originally posted by Niber
1. Planeshift has stolen it\'s name from PlanetSide

wtf?

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Originally posted by Anatheus
It\'s nice to see that Planeshift is getting \"fame\" with these articles on gaming magazines, but there\'s a bad thing
about that also... It\'ll bring in more n00bs... Argh...

More n00bs, but also more possible devs.
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Post by: Levski on April 25, 2004, 09:42:42 pm
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Originally posted by watersa8
They might have asked the Devs burt with it being an opened source project i dont think they need permision to post screenies


Buddy... the art is licensed.  So they would need permission, methinketh.

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Originally posted by Anatheus
It\'s nice to see that Planeshift is getting \"fame\" with these articles on gaming magazines, but there\'s a bad thing


Yes well... you can always make your own forums about planeshift if these aren\'t to your liking...

I wonder when Kada\'s forums will be up again?
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Post by: Altharion on April 25, 2004, 10:33:20 pm
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pfft, only swedes could be that stupid


thats true.

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wonder when Kada\'s forums will be up again?


so do i  ;)

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Wait a minute, that\'s me in the article screenie! Hehe, yay! Fame at last, I\'m in an international magazine. Shouldn\'t I get some kind of commission from the mag for that?  


Kada-el the super model  ;)
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Post by: Monketh on April 26, 2004, 12:53:24 am
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Originally posted by Niber
1. Planeshift has stolen it\'s name from PlanetSide
2. The graphics is fully ok being a free game
3. lowres textures
4. might not survive without money flow


1.Good Lord.  8o  They make a typo, then accuse the devs of stealing planetside\'s name when this project is much older than planet side.
The stupidity...        it\'s just...           amazing...

2. *nods*

3. *nods*

4. Huh?
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Post by: Cirque on April 26, 2004, 06:55:32 am
LOL to be honest when I first stumbled upon this gem of a game I read the name as PlanetShift, then realised I should omit the 1st \'t\' from the name.

Theres really no comparison between PlaneShift and PlanetSide so the fact they think the name was pilfered is just bizare. Its not even the same genre. The only thing they have in common is the MMO aspect.

*EDIT* Kada-El could you provide me with the website or email of the person that wrote that article?
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Post by: Fanomatic2000 on April 26, 2004, 05:55:52 pm
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Originally posted by Niber
(http://www.niber.net/pcgamerplane.jpg)
1. Planeshift has stolen it\'s name from PlanetSide
2. The graphics is fully ok being a free game
3. lowres textures
4. might not survive without money flow


Here\'s the full translation.

Planetside - PlanetShift; PC gamer -PC Gameplay. You will propably never find out what we meant with the previous sentence. At least not in full daylight not in mince matters.
What is Planeshift then? Nonetheless than a coming MMORPG - phew, at least it\'s not a MMOFPS.
It\'s also free. You don\'t pay neither a one-time sum, nor a monthly counterpart.
The graphics are quite ok against that background, but doesn\'t compete with the top. Mainly the textures feels a bit too low-resoluted. The question is how long the game will hold without a money-flow. Up to proof.


Yeah, I saw it too. Words cannot describe what I feel, but I\'m pretty disappointed at PC-gamer to say the least.
Oh well, I guess the word \"free\" havn\'t got much respect with it. Almost as little respect as reviewers who cannot even spell the name of the game they are reviewing.

Hmph...
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Post by: Vengeance on April 27, 2004, 05:34:20 am
Perhaps some letters to the editors of those magazines regarding the name, the facts and the permission to publish shots would be nice--in their native languages.

Just a thought...

- Vengeance
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Post by: hook on April 27, 2004, 08:42:19 am
adding to Venge\'s request:

- also a brief history of PS would be nice, to show those asses, exactly HOW long the name PlaneShift existed :P
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Post by: Cirque on April 27, 2004, 09:24:56 am
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Originally posted by Vengeance
Perhaps some letters to the editors of those magazines regarding the name, the facts and the permission to publish shots would be nice--in their native languages.

Just a thought...

- Vengeance


Yeah thats why I asked Kada-El for the website and or email address, but he hasnt responded yet. Mind you if people are going to send abusive, idiotic emails to the writer then perhaps the email or website shouldnt be disclosed. Poor representations of the PlaneShift community will do the games development and perception no justice.
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Post by: snow_RAveN on April 27, 2004, 09:25:31 am
and tell them what a Happy community it has :D
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Post by: ForteX on April 27, 2004, 08:36:38 pm
lolI have a good idea to solve the problem. PS sues,  pcgamer because of the published screenshots this way money won\'t be a problem lol
j/k...

Now, what they did is not only wrong, stupid and illegal but it is also lame! If they had done some research they would know how long Planeshift has existed, with the name and the idea.
Pretty lame... I believe they needed to fill out some pages and did that with other games also, they write something pretty stupid without researching or contacting the developers.

Fame is good for games, but planeshift doesn\'t need this bad publicity. PS will be a great game, because it has a great community and has people that enjoy RPG programing/designing/working on it.
Hope this problem get solved and they publish the right information, specially because they messed with legal matters.
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Post by: karakth on April 27, 2004, 11:18:12 pm
Easy up...It wan\'t such a huge crime. Besides, people will google and eventually end up here, where they will learn the truth...
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Post by: Xordan on April 27, 2004, 11:37:30 pm
Have them all shot!  :D
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Post by: hook on April 28, 2004, 06:22:51 am
maybe a nice open letter from the devs (talad\'s good with the likes of them) to the pcgamer would be the best solution

...do not forget the *nice* in it! ...ah, of course you could sue them, but why the hassle? - open up a new paypal account to get enough cash to afford a lawyer? and then? we\'ll just get dissed in those bloddy comp. games mags after that :P ...but yea, they should have asked in any case.
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Post by: Thiridant on April 28, 2004, 08:06:07 am
Its seems that PC Gamer and the powers that be are afraid that gamers will turn away from their expensive MMO-RPGs because of free ones like PS.

I even thought of making a 2d MMO-RPG for free.
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Post by: Fanomatic2000 on April 28, 2004, 10:53:56 am
They wrote nice about Runescape 2 and Pristontale, so I don\'t think that\'s the problem. if they was afraid of it, then why bother adding an article about it? That way people get to know about it, and propably check it out because it looks interesting on the screenshots.
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Post by: karakth on April 28, 2004, 12:39:54 pm
The Dev team don\'t have the time currently to write letters to magazines. This is why the team need some people on the PR team.
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Post by: Cirque on April 28, 2004, 06:34:00 pm
\"They wrote nice about the game-that-shall-not-be-named 2\"

Runescape <<< says it all lol.

The writers probably get big incentives on the sly for writing rave reviews about MMORPG\'s that are pay to play. Everyones happy that way. Well except games like this...
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Post by: kyp14 on April 29, 2004, 12:27:54 pm
I can remember seeing the pic in Kada\'s PC Gamer article somewhere,

I know I\'ve seen it but it wasn\'t on this site or in  that magazine because I can\'t stand reading UK magazines, mostly due to the fact that I can\'t translate pounds to dollars in my head (the exchange rate doesn\'t help either)

hmmm where on earth did I see that picture.
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Post by: Kada-El on April 30, 2004, 07:11:39 pm
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Originally posted by Cirque
Yeah thats why I asked Kada-El for the website and or email address, but he hasnt responded yet.

Sorry Cirque, I didn\'t notice that you had edited your post to ask me that.

The article I posted was from nearly 3 years ago, so I doubt there\'s any point in contacting anyone about that ;) And as you can see from the recent article (in the same magazine) that Kwartz posted, they have written nothing but facts.

Here\'s the mag website anyway (http://www.futurenet.com/pcgamer/)

The article posted by Niber isn\'t by the same authors at all and (obviously) isn\'t the UK version of PC Gamer, so you\'ll need to ask him for contact details if you want to put them straight ;)
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Post by: Cirque on May 03, 2004, 02:52:27 am
Ahh OK, I thought the article was published recently. Would probably look like a snag if I responded to a 3 year old article.

Maybe I should send PC Powerplay (Australian magazine) and email regarding this game. If they write a half decent review of it then it would certainly promote the game in a positive way.
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Post by: ForteX on May 03, 2004, 03:04:08 am
Just saw that the last planeshift interview was \"published\" on mmorpg.com
Better publicity than the pcgamer =)
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Post by: Fextina on May 03, 2004, 05:54:22 am
PS is not technically a game yet, therefore any \"game reviews\" are automatically invalid.
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Post by: Levski on May 03, 2004, 06:27:26 am
Well..... what about Tech-demo reviewing?   :D

And these sort of magazines publish stuff about up and coming games as well.

But I have to say, hopefully all this publicity won\'t bring TOO many hardcore gamers.  Id hate nothing more than to log in one day and have a group of people who are always there spoil everything and act out of character all the time...