PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: karakth on April 29, 2004, 12:37:41 pm
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Consider the following passtime:
A guild would build a bridge which would stretch across the diameter of the first level.
People pay to go to the middle of the bridge and jump off :D
It\'s perfectly safe...They\'ll just land in the waters of the seventh and eight levels, right?
Consider it the \"rollercoaster ride\" of Yliakum, hm?
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Nice idea. It may work to go one level lower, like the cliff jumpers. But depending on the height of each level, i dont think the water will any softer zhan concrete. You would have to sell them parachutes too.
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Zinder is right. The water will be pretty hard, you might break your neck :P
But why not to be used by Krans? They can swim, and they won\'t drown either.
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Can they swim? I\'d thought they\'d sink like...well, rocks.
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Well...
According to their page, they can\'t drown, but it doesn\'t say anything about swimming...
So maybe they can swim, and maybe they sink and have to walk out. Either way, it\'s not a problem :P
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instead of parachute\'s how about bungee jumping :D
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Their skin is made of silicon so... they could swim.
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Not Silicon...They\'re Silicon-based compounds. Big difference. Hydrogen is not water :O
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Great idea. Then we could get people to pay us to use the falling people as target practice. :D
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Anyway it\'s not said that Kran skin is made of rock...
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SECOND EPOCH: THE DIVISION
\" A new people were born from the rocks thanks to Talad, and they called themselves \"Kran\". \"
Sounds to me like they\'re animated rock. I\'d think Krans would be too dense to swim, they\'d sink, having to walk out :P
[edit] well, they breathe just not with lungs...think they absorb oxygen through their skin or something like that, so the oxygen in water works.[/edit]
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Right, I didn\'t remember having read that. True, they would have to walk then, anyway they don\'t care, they don\'t breath.. :p
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It would be cool jumping off the bridge into the water, and then slowly walking out of them..... Heh, a Kran walking slowly out of the water, could be a cool scene of a really bad movie :P
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Hmm perhaps a bridge would use up too much space...What about a pulley system?
You know, the spider silk picks them up, moves them to the middle, and drops them.
The Sea Elves could even offer some service to \"pick up\" people who have fallen into the sea.
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You know, jumping off a bridge is often used as a form of suicide. Dropping 7 layers can\'t be survivable. I think bungee jumping would be more plausible.
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Parachutes are more realisitic than bungees.
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Fruit wars.... Bungeejumping... YEP this community has really lost it :D
Would be fun though to watch a kran or dwarf bungeejump :D
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Bungees were invented a few hundreds of years before parachutes. There\'s a tribe somewhere that builds a shaky tower from wood, then they climb it, tie a thick rope to the legs, and jump. Too bad the rope is usually too long : \\
But now that I think of it, it won\'t be possible to jump from any level to the lake. Since every level is broader than the one below, you\'ll fall and hit the wall.
Unless of course you plan drilling a hole in the middle of all levels so you can jump down and die from the impact of the water :rolleyes:
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Well unless you build a bridge which extends to the radius of Upper Yliakum.
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Originally posted by karakth
Well unless you build a bridge which extends to the radius of Upper Yliakum.
Look at how the stactite is built again (http://www.planeshift.it/pix/yliakum_map.jpg), you can\'t possibly jump from the upper levels to the bottoms, especially with a bridge
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Why not?
This is the bridge:
(http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload4/yliakumbridge.JPG)
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And how exactly do you reach the lake by jumping from the bridge like that?
Or do you mean sliding on the rivers?
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Well, you jump off the middle of the bridge and move downwards due to gravity (Concrete Fact. Do not discuss) and end up in the lake.
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But the stalagtite is an upside-down cone, with levels in it. If you jump from one of the levels you hit the stalagtite walls.
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I shouldn\'t need to point this out, but the bridge goes straight over the center of the \'hole\' for the 1st level. Thusly, to jump from the center of the bridge and keep yourself in the correct direction would allow you to land in the lake at the bottom.
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Here\'s a map that might allow you to understand the stalagtite better:
You can see Yliakum from the side (look at it as a cross-section).
(http://users.wpi.edu/~nkrach/Map01.gif)
It was done by SnowWolf, a member of our guild.
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Originally posted by Monketh
I shouldn\'t need to point this out, but the bridge goes straight over the center of the \'hole\' for the 1st level. Thusly, to jump from the center of the bridge and keep yourself in the correct direction would allow you to land in the lake at the bottom.
Where you hit the water and DIE.
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Don\'t be so negative ;)
But seriously, I agree that the first level is a bit too high (though adrenalin-crazed junkies would try it, I suppose, using parachutes or skydiving with their winged creatures, etc). So how about diving off a bridge on the fifth or sixth level?
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Originally posted by karakth
Don\'t be so negative ;)
But seriously, I agree that the first level is a bit too high (though adrenalin-crazed junkies would try it, I suppose, using parachutes or skydiving with their winged creatures, etc). So how about diving off a bridge on the fifth or sixth level?
You\'ll still DIE.
Anyway, last time I read, the people down there are somewhat protective of their lake. And then there\'s the getting back up part. This is all assuming you have some method of survival.
What\'s wrong with bungee jumping?
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The problem with bungee jumping is that the ropes are non-springy. Meaning you\'d burst like a paper sack full of ketchup.
However, they could use spider silk ropes (like the ones for the pulley system) which would provide elasticity and stretch enough to allow you to gracefully enter the water. Without breaking your neck.
So in truth it would be a mix between skydiving and bungee-jumping :D
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Who cares, it would be cool anyway lol :D
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Karakth, that map doesn\'t help understanding how jumping from a certain level to the bottom level is possible, because, well, it\'s a 2d cut-through, and the world is kinda 3d.
I still think that if you jump from one level down, you\'ll end up flat on the level below the one you jumped from, or flat on the inner walls of the stalagtite.
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Holy crazy metaphors batman! ?The problem with bungee jumping is that the ropes are non-springy. Meaning you\'d burst like a paper sack full of ketchup.?
Did anyone else think that would be funny to see?
Onward! >> Terminal velocity, if it exists IG than it would not matter what level you jumped off the bridge at you would still be hitting the water at the same speed. If the developers chose to say, ?If the character falls more than 15 meters they are dead no matter what surface they land on.? than the jump doesn?t work. But if they chose to allow us to fall as far as we like without being injured by a water impact than alls well. Though I don?t quite see how you could restrict jumping in that case.
As for the hole that everyone else sees. I kinda have to agree with Saint. I doubt that it is there.
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The hole is there. Along the cliffs you have staircases so people can move from one level to the next. You also have the pulley systems, which are faster than walking.
What about spider silk bungee rope? Should decelerate you at a gradual enough speed.
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Originally posted by karakth
Along the cliffs
If \'along the cliffs\' means along the inner wall of the stalagtite, you can jump through it, but you\'ll bump your head in the stalagtite walls.
Originally posted by karakth
What about spider silk bungee rope? Should decelerate you at a gradual enough speed.
Bungee doesn\'t make you fall slower, it just stops you before the impact.
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Yes I know, but the aim here is to slow down sufficiently to avoid breaking any bones.
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But when you bungee jump you don\'t slow down...
You fall fast, and then bounce up (a bit or alot, depends on the rope). And then fall again, and reach a full stop.
If the rope is a bit shorter than the distance to the water, you\'ll have to untie yourself to jump into the water.
If the rope is a bit longer, so you can reach the water, you die.
How about some magical machine that creates HUGE magical soap bubbles. You step into one of those bubble, and decend slowly into the water.
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Yes yes, that\'s a normal bungee.
I\'m talking about a PS bungee.
You jump, you fall fast, then the rope stretches slowly and you lose speed gradually until you sink into the water gracefully.