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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: tygerwilde on May 12, 2004, 02:30:10 am
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you ever notice that kids can make anyone feel old and stupid? no matter how smart you actually are.
I\'ve been good at reading most of my life, but Homer\'s Illiad is still troubling me. However, My three year old, Nicky made his first steps to reading Homer today. I had my copy out on the desk and he said \"H...O...M...E...R\"
I don\'t know about all of you, but I didn\'t start reading untill I was almost 5. tell me, besides proud, how would you feel in my shoes???
oh, and to push matters further... he also surfs the internet. his favorite site is Nickjr.com. and he does it by himself.(with help of desktop icons
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You are old and stupid. Accept it. :D
On a more serious note, I know I do that to my parents all the time. It\'s so much fun. 8)
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*wimpers about feeling the onset of premature senility.*
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ahh but as ye get\'s old ladd ye get\'s much better skill\'s fer life then when ye was young.
i\'ll take wisdom over inteligent\'s any day.
i have met many inteligent people in me life but alot of them weren\'t very smart. :D
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As a fundamental rule of thumb, most western schools are teaching kids younger and younger these days. Don\'t feel so bad about it.
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Once upon a time, children were having philisophical bible discussions and knew Latin at age 4. Standards have gone down, not up.
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I don\'t know man, when I was young I was always smart for my age, but I was nowhere near like what I see in todays youths, I mean, at three I didn\'t know nearly as much as my son does, he can describe objects that he\'s never seen, he speaks spanish as well as he does english (dora the explorer works miracles huh?) and he\'s not only counting to twenty, but he can add and subtract when he puts his mind to it.
I personally think it\'s the advantages he has in this decade, in the eighties, we only had one educational channel, hell, only one channel for kids. now, nicky can watch educational cartoons all day if we were to let him, he has dozens of toys that teach the fundamentals, his abc\'s, mathematics. all of the basics can be found in online games that are more interesting than they are in standard format, like interactive puzzles that talk, giving basic reward responses.
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It really depends on alot of variables, just because you say have a slow start to life doesn\'t mean that by say 18 years old your still gonna be slow.
Also kids today do have more opportunity to learn and are more exposed to the world then we ever were alowing them to learn quicker.
The difference between now and fifty years ago, Is that poor people are able to get a good education just like the rich kids are atleast in most western countrys.
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hehe, man, it don\'t matter when I learned to say those kinds of words. I was well into marriage before I dared try to say them in front of my mother... ;) I was smart enough to know what my dad would do if I did... course it helped that I had an older brother to observe in that kind of situation.
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poor kids getting a good education
isn\'t always true...education maybe
Learning the drug trade is education.
so poor education being the same as
rich kids is far off...
poverty is a bit*ch to get out of...period.
I\'m still not out...I\'m jus lucky that I read alot.
We get education...the quality of witch is severely lacking...I live in a monetarily segregated area where rich schools are built for the rich nieborhoods and out of district transfers...nearly impossible to get. I go to the best school (educational wise) and we still have disparity in minority test scores...I\'m a fu*cking pheonomenon...one of the few kids who actualy passed the high school exit exam, witch is really just a test of middle school skill. Poverty puts people through a different lifestyle than rich people. Poor people can study hard and have some resources to get into college but the lifestyle of a poor person is much more\"raw\". A rich person can live life without the worries of drive bys, the slave (minimum)wage jobs, lack of stability in the household. the scravaging for money month to month. Waiting for measely ebt card recharge (modern equivalent to food stamps).and to top it off, colleges have just got more strict on college entrance requirments due to the failing economy and bushs \"trickle down\" theory on supply side economics...you\'d think the dick would have learned from regonomics... in short dont paint a picture witch is contrary to the facts...I know the fact of life in poverty...I\'ve lived and survived its razor sharp edge, please...speack with wisedom.
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man, I lived that lifestyle myself, my dad was disabled by the time I was 8, and we\'ve lived off of welfare and disability checks most of my life. and it\'s not like we were wealthy beforehand either; he was a trucker before his accident. however, I was well educated, as were my brothers. My wife lived in homeless shelters more than half of her life, and the other half she spent moving from place to place in the back of a car, yet she\'s a college student as well. You can complain about any part of america you want to, but don\'t complain about difficulty getting an education here, because it\'s just not true. nowhere else in the world can such low birthclass people attain a passable education. sure it\'s not the best education available in the world, there are countries like japan that have higher standards. but ANYONE can get it if they willingly put forth an effort, and that\'s just not true anywhere else.
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i agree with tygerwylde i have been on my own since i was 13 and i lived on the street but i still stayed in school recieved a good education and now i make a good living it took alot of struggling year\'s but in the end it worked for me :D
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and the best part is, in America...
IT\'S FREE!!!
all you have to do is fill out some extra paperwork and most people can get a college education absolutely free, if you can\'t, that means you can afford it on your own.
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Originally posted by Davis
Once upon a time, children were having philisophical bible discussions and knew Latin at age 4. Standards have gone down, not up.
That\'s not necessarily true, if we look fairly recently, say to my parents generation to my own, the amount that we have learned in school has increased. (I noticed this particularly when i was in high school, since whenever my dad saw what we were taking in math, he mentioned he learned it in university).
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Originally posted by Davis
Once upon a time, children were having philisophical bible discussions and knew Latin at age 4. Standards have gone down, not up.
You think that having philosopical bible discussions and latin are usefull? I rather have children working with computer.
Standards have gone up i think, people used to learn facts like when was the historical battle of ..... While nowadays people learn to understand what the information meand, why was the battle raged, what were the consequences etc.
And at least children in Holland tend to be more smart ass then my generation was at that age (or perhaps it looks that way since i see it now from a different viewpoint)
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I could read write and even multiply at four. You shouldn\'t feel bad about it. It just means you give more attention to the mental development of your child than your parents gave to your mental development.
That was *supposed* to make you feel better but I\'m obviously not very good at these kinds of things...
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LOL, that\'s alright man, I\'ll take it as meaning that I\'m a dedicated and astute parent, not that I\'m a real dumbass
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This is not necessarily a bad thing that kids are getting smarter its just to bad that this enrichment in intelligence couldn\'t get passed to some of the more unfortunate children out there!
\"Celebrities make millions for advertising merchandise for thirty seconds...and yet there is kids around the world that suffer and have no real chance of getting on their own two feet!\"
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Originally posted by Davis
Once upon a time, children were having philisophical bible discussions and knew Latin at age 4. Standards have gone down, not up.
That was perhaps 0.05% of the entire population. What about the others that couldn\'t read, count or spell properly?
Anyways, it sounds like you got yourself a young professor Tyger, be proud :)
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thanks cal.
depth, it\'s not like our kids are in that great a situation, we live in the worst part of town. we scrimp to get by, even though we take out student loans all the time. and when we leave school and have to pay back the loans, we\'re goin to have problems. hopefully, we\'ll get decent jobs after getting our college educations.
our kids are just lucky to have a couple of benefits. they have their own parents for one thing. they have grandparents who adore them. though we cant\' afford it, every now and then we scrape enough up that we can get an educational toy or two, and our parents help with that. it\'s not the best situation, but we work hard to make sure that it\'s as good as it can be for the circumstances.
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Tyger although there is some places that aren\'t as funded as others the majority of North Americans are priveledged enough to get schooling...
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I\'m not saying that they\'re living in absolute squalor either, just that the situation that they\'re in isn\'t ideal. like what you said about schooling in north america. missouri is an educational bad joke.
hehe, education in missouri is really behind. back in california, I was getting beggining algebra in sixth grade. we moved to missouri and early algebra was a sophomore class in high school. I was thinkin \"What the f**k, that\'s four years difference.\" Not only that, but I was taught wrong here. they didn\'t teach us the order of operations, they taught us, multiply before adding, and always work left to right. I didn\'t learn the proper order of operations till I got to college. and this is stuff I should have known as a kid.
and other areas are a joke as well, the sciences(earth apparently is more like a giant cube), history (I once had a teacher who tried to convince us that George washington was from missouri.) even health(somehow I don\'t actually beleive that it could be healthy to drain the blood of a turkey over a vat of strawberrie juice and drink the contents *a ward against STDs*)
missouri probably has the worst public schooling program in the united states. when my kids go to school, I\'m sure as shit going to make sure to talk to my them about the things that they learned.