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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mage of Darkness on May 13, 2004, 10:55:53 am

Title: Is it coming?
Post by: Mage of Darkness on May 13, 2004, 10:55:53 am
ok i know blah blah just wait and see but i have been looking at the updates recently on the progress and i believe it might be coming soon as i can tell. what sprung this theory is the sudden huge amount of updates done daily and i know it gets repeative from hearing i would just like to have gotten my opinion out there on what is happening.
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Post by: Quwaar on May 13, 2004, 11:23:01 am
If they would be so nice just to wait another 4/5week then I have all my finals done and will have all the time to play 24/7 :D

But I agree with you, though to the amount of updates it is likely it wil come out soon, but as said before and as you siad, we willl just have to wait and see.
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Post by: Asraniel on May 13, 2004, 12:32:18 pm
jep, its 2 or 3 times more a day than usualy.. :-) looks great
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Post by: karakth on May 13, 2004, 01:39:32 pm
No...This just means they\'re working faster. Will make it happen sooner, but not in the next few months.

I am personally not really looking forward to CB, with it\'s hacky-slashy n00bs and all. The good thing about CB will be that it will bring the game to being closer to an RPG.

Edit: Besides, the main thing is the art now, coding is nearly done.
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Post by: SaintNuclear on May 13, 2004, 01:43:46 pm
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I am personally not really looking forward to CB, with it\'s hacky-slashy n00bs and all.

I thought we\'ll be able to do the jobs in CB... The buttons from the movie and everything.
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Post by: Nikech on May 13, 2004, 03:40:50 pm
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I am personally not really looking forward to CB, with it\'s hacky-slashy n00bs and all.

I thought we\'ll be able to do the jobs in CB... The buttons from the movie and everything.


I think there will be jobs in CB, they said so when it was delayed. Because CB wasn\'t released in December, they\'ve had time to work on them. But CB also has combat, which brings hacky-slashy n00bs.
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Post by: Coheed on May 13, 2004, 04:32:29 pm
maybe it will bring Hacky nicey rpgers!  I don\'t expect this game to be the same as UO, or EQ, or Lineage II. . .I see alot more RPGing going on in this game.  So don\'t always excpect hacky slacky noobs.
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Post by: Caldazar on May 13, 2004, 09:30:04 pm
This game is free. Free means that you will deal with all kinds of people. Resistance is futile, you will be wtfpwned. :rolleyes:
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Post by: Asraniel on May 13, 2004, 10:14:48 pm
Art is the problem? i understand that.... when you cant use free textures and models and the artist cant release the art under gpl.. i think its hard to find many people that help, no realy, im serious, i considered to donate some waepons i made some times ago, but i would like to been able to make with them what i want
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Post by: Cha0s on May 13, 2004, 10:39:21 pm
I\'m REALLY looking forward to CB... I\'ll actually be able to play it. (*mumbles about discrimination against Macs...).
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Post by: dfryer on May 13, 2004, 11:29:35 pm
Yeah, there\'s been a lot of bugfixing and feature adding, but that doesn\'t necessarily mean CB is done :)  I *know* there\'s at least one cross platform issue that I haven\'t yet submitted a patch for (unless they\'ve beat me to the punch and fixed it..)

That said, I\'m hoping for a) the mac version to work and b) reasonable (5 fps or so :P ) performance on my geforce 2MX.
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Post by: Icefalcon on May 14, 2004, 05:01:09 am
We are just going to have to convert all the hack-n-slashers into RPers...If all the RPers convert 5 hack-n-slashers each, we\'ll be all set ;) Don\'t say its not possible...Ive converted hack-n-slashers to RPers before.

Of course there are those unconvertables which should just be flamed until they leave :]
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Post by: Cirque on May 14, 2004, 10:25:18 am
Join the dark side...

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7892/Slayer.JPG)
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Post by: karakth on May 14, 2004, 12:15:50 pm
Jobs. Even H4k0rz can do jobs, simply for the money.

Converting Hackers into RPers sounds like a good idea...But difficult.

CB will not have RP-enforcement. It will all be player enforced.

The problem is, how will we deal with the noobs? Is there any way to stay IC when confronted with: \"LOL thanx \" (You haven\'t told him your name).

RPing will have to be enforced by GMs. No RP should equal a kick.
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Post by: DarkMaster625 on May 14, 2004, 01:34:49 pm
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I\'m REALLY looking forward to CB... I\'ll actually be able to play it. (*mumbles about discrimination against Macs...).


Same here but I do have a PC even though it stinks.
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Post by: Quwaar on May 14, 2004, 01:35:02 pm
thats an Idea... no names to see above/selected a char, only visible if you have actually met them ^^
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Post by: tygerwilde on May 14, 2004, 06:15:56 pm
meh, sometimes I rp sometimes I don\'t, it depends on the company I\'m keeping, in AC most of my allegiance were non rpers, so I didn\'t much do the rp thing. but when I was with my hunting friends, we did the rp thing. we would go on a holy quest, slaying the mighty

I don\'t much care either way.

however, if you really want to stay in character, you can whisper to them that you are in character, and if he wants his character to be recognised by your character he must stay within role play boundaries
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Post by: Icefalcon on May 15, 2004, 01:13:49 am
No! This is an RP Game, hack-n-slashers can leave if they don\'t like it. I think RPing should be somewhat enforced with GMs, but I think that the whole community should set a good example for the little mindless hackers-n-slashers.

I know when I played RS, I had a bunch of \"friends\" that were always like, \"dude I just lost my armor, can you gimme some rune, your loaded\" I always told em, no, go work for it. Go fish and actually make some money so you can buy yourself some rune.

Now, I know that RS has is the most limited amount of RPing possible, but If everybody encouraged the hackers to RP, they would feel like a minority and maybe (hopefully) at least try to fit in and RP. Thats my humble theory, its up to us to keep this game an MMORPG and not end up like runescape.
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Post by: Cirque on May 15, 2004, 12:25:45 pm
What if you have had a hard day at work and decide to jump on PS for some relaxation and you accidently forget to role play and get caught by a GM?

I think your digging your own grave by being so cold cut.
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Post by: Draklar on May 15, 2004, 12:32:26 pm
how exactly can you tell when someone\'s rp and when not?
Or do you guys mean kicking all 1337-talkers and other scum that behave like idiots?
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Post by: karakth on May 15, 2004, 12:57:24 pm
Well if someone uses words created in the sixties and onwards such as \"dude, hip, yo, cool, wassup, etc\" then you know they\'re not RPing.

Anything can be dealt with ICly, even  the crashing of a computer. It\'s all a matter of education. However, the Devs should make it clear on the website that RPing will be enforced, if it will be.
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Post by: Draklar on May 15, 2004, 01:06:32 pm
aye, but some people can simply play, behave normally but all in all not rp... not a good reason to kick someone in that case.

In my opinion good move to encourage rp\'ing is to make GMs people that are great roleplayers.
No powergaming GMs :rolleyes:
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Post by: Icefalcon on May 15, 2004, 09:49:16 pm
I never meant that GM enforcing should be that strict. My whole point of my last post was that if we set a good example, the 1337 crap will just fade away...

And if we do have official RPing enforcers, they should be somewhat lenient, only kicking when absolutely nessesary, and very rarely banning. They would mainly remind and warn those who are obviously not RPing. What I mean by that is...1337 talking, chatting about RL stuff, and asking stupid questions that have nothing to do with the game. I don\'t mean saying things like \"cool\" or \"dude\" because thats not really that big of a deal, and I think I will probably be found guilty :rolleyes:
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Post by: Zeraph on May 15, 2004, 10:18:30 pm
I think it would stink if we had banned words like ?cool? because that is so commonly used now a days that you would say it by accident if you ware not extremely careful, things like ?wow? & so on, I agree that if basically everyone uses rp language that & call people who use 1337 talk, everyone would label them a noob & they would get embarrass & not do it as much unless they are obnoxious. In that case no-one will like them & they may get banned for flooding the chat eventually?

I read something about having a separate channel for IC chat & so on? lots of discussion on this every ware?

I like that players decide what to do, usually like in a normal society, there is some behavior that is labeled ?uncalled-for? or ?low-class? etc. & they are usually shunned by society & have no respect?
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Post by: Rulzern on May 15, 2004, 11:49:34 pm
IMHO, people could get warned for using 1337, or being offensive etc., but I feel that using a language closer to me, immerses me better into my role, if I use conventional RP-language, I feel awkward and distanced from my character, while if I use wording that is closer to what I would use in real life, I feel immersed and can enjoy the game more.

I guess what I\'m trying to say is that you can role-play without using the standards for role-playing language.
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Post by: DepthBlade on May 16, 2004, 03:06:11 am
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Originally posted by Icefalcon
We are just going to have to convert all the hack-n-slashers into RPers...If all the RPers convert 5 hack-n-slashers each, we\'ll be all set ;) Don\'t say its not possible...Ive converted hack-n-slashers to RPers before.

Of course there are those unconvertables which should just be flamed until they leave :]


Better watch out they probally are out there after us RPers trying to convert us by the tempting hacknslash steal the money and run!
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Post by: Icefalcon on May 16, 2004, 03:27:42 am
Yeah right, they don\'t have the brains to think of some scheme like that...they are hack-n-slashers after all...If they had any common sence at all, they would be RPers :D
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Post by: Cirque on May 16, 2004, 08:35:43 am
This stereotyping is counter productive.
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Post by: Monketh on May 16, 2004, 02:50:46 pm
I know how to prevent the problem entirely!
Loud, blaring classical music the first time you start up PS, and make it so it can\'t be shut off.  Rahaha!  :P

I agree with Icefalcon on the actual topic here.

Edit: You maybe, but among those gamer-gamers of my school, they would consider the music to be a sample of the edutainment to come, and would hit alt-f4 faster than Aendar can type a reply. (Which, if you\'ve never seen, can be extremely fast.)  Asides, I was joking!
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Post by: tygerwilde on May 16, 2004, 03:42:55 pm
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Yeah right, they don\'t have the brains to think of some scheme like that...they are hack-n-slashers after all...If they had any common sence at all, they would be RPers


you know, cirque has a point

so, my monarchy, who was mostly into getting online, chatting with friends about what\'s going on in their lives and having a hunting party while they were at it, is all a bunch of no brained morons??? well, I\'ll be happy to let them all know how you feel about them. they\'re some of the best friends I have, and honestly, from the conversations we have, some of the most intelligent. and while I\'m not averse to RP myself, I\'ll make sure to stay out of character when you\'re around just to annoy you.

now how does that sound.

just because someone doesn\'t play the same way you do doesn\'t make them anything less than you. if you have a problem with their chatting, put them on ignore. you put too much emphasis on the RPG and forget about the GAME. a game is about having fun, and if some people have fun discussing the dynamics of a hydrogen powered bomb, let them. some people get annoyed to see people rping, does that make you wrong? not at all, just let them play the way they will.

and monketh, how will classical music prevent the problem? it\'ll just make me wanna go all pk on everyone.
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Post by: Icefalcon on May 16, 2004, 05:28:21 pm
I was refering to hack-n-slashers in general. Yes I know there are exceptions, there always is, but in this game, RPing is strongly encouraged. If you and your friends want to go play a boring ol\' \"kill and get exp, repeat\" game..then I think Planeshift is not the game for you...
Title: Don?t worry:
Post by: Zeraph on May 16, 2004, 05:53:51 pm
I think they are going to make the game so it appeals to rp more then the other sorta player, so thows sort that would do that would just get uninteresting & go?

We don?t have to worry about it? Usually people who are looking for swordfights would not play a Chinese Street-Racing Game for that long if there wasn?t allot of sword fights in it. But the may get addicted to street-Racing Games?

:D Be Happy...
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Post by: tygerwilde on May 16, 2004, 06:37:26 pm
sorry, it\'s just that stereotyping people pisses me off, and when you say that all hack ans slashers are idiots, it makes me just a little upset. I mean, god, I\'m a tabletopper, and I\'ve lived with the stereotype that all tabletoppers are devil worshippers, I was fat as a child, and lived with the stereotype that all fat kids are lazy, and a bunch of other stuff you prolly wouldn\'t understand. hell, I even went through a few years in jr. high when all the black kids thought I was racist because I was white!

stereotyping is just wrong man. and I\'d appreciate it if I didn\'t see any more comments like that!
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Post by: Cirque on May 16, 2004, 06:38:34 pm
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I was refering to hack-n-slashers in general.


Yes thats called stereotyping.

*EDIT* Word up tygerwilde.
Title: So,
Post by: Zeraph on May 16, 2004, 06:47:07 pm
If the hack-n-slasher does not do what a hack-n-slasher does, then he does not fit that stereo-type & is not a true hack-n-slasher, I get stario typed all the time, I don?t get mad about it but I?m sure just about anyone had problem or is having problems anyways, I realy forgot my point so I?ll just say, I hate that many people accuses white people of being racist as a stereo type, that doesn?t mean I want to be a hack-n-slasher?

?( Now I am confused @ what any of this has to do with the next release of PS? ? I really hope that it will come out soon & I can help make it happen!

Edit: Oh ya, & I believe that people that assume other people are racist & so they avoid them without actually finding out for themselves are raciest themselves,
Disclaimer: This is only my opinion so don?t blame me about it?
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Post by: Androgos on May 16, 2004, 06:59:02 pm
Hmm

Started out as a discussion if CB was comming, ended with being a discussion about RPGing and how to punish n00bs?
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Post by: karakth on May 16, 2004, 07:56:20 pm
Yes, well. I thought another discussion about when CB would be coming would be boring ^^

That\'s interesting Tygerwilde. I suppose I could see the attraction to play in such a way. Doesn\'t it get boring though? The game just becomes a chatroom. With monsters. Maybe it\'s just me though.

Now, imagine RPing. Fully immersing yourself into a game, you can forget RL for a few hours and actually become someone else, walking around and interacting inside a giant Stalgtite.

I\'ve thought of something. Why not RP as if your characters came through a portal from a world very much like our own?
Title: That would be nice!
Post by: Zeraph on May 16, 2004, 08:26:00 pm
Like instead of just spawning into the world in the middles of the town, there should be a portal like the one described in the history section of settings on the website. So instead of a Person just showing up, they can be treated as newcomers to this world. That would be better for new people, will be asked if they would like to learn something about the new world. Also we can have deferent portals for different races in different places etc.  :D
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Post by: Arberar on May 16, 2004, 08:52:52 pm
hmm most of the time i rp and really get into the game and stuff :p but sometimes i do some hack and slash.
i don\'t think we should kick people who hack and slash, if they want to hack and slash let them they don\'t do anything wrong in the end. but still i hope there will be alot of rp\'ing in planeshift.
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Post by: Ineluke on May 19, 2004, 07:34:18 pm
As far as language goes I dont think it should be censored. People play the way they want to. I think there are going to be separate channels for non ic chat anyway so dont worry about it. Sides its just a game...