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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: faldrok on May 20, 2004, 11:52:01 pm
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Ok, I am getting really pissed about this!! Everyone is accusing the Blitzers of cheating and everything. Why does everyone hate the Blitzers? From what I have seen/remembered, no one has said anything nice about the Blitzers in the past four months, but that doesn\'t bother me. What bothers me is the fact that people have the nerve to call us cheaters. I HATE cheaters with a passion. Probably more than most people here. If ya don\'t believe me, ask Zet or Xenia.
Why does everyone think the Blitzers cheat? I have no f*ckin\' clue. You tell me; plz. Is it because we are top in all the crystals? That is because we have so many active members; DUH!!! What about when XG and then OI topped the crystal boards? Did you guys call them cheaters? Hell no!! So, why is everyone lashing out at the Blitzers? Maybe it is because we got there so quickly? Hmm, what about the damn \"Mass Recruiting\" everyone is talking about. 100 people with 500 rubies is more than 15 people with 3000 rubies. And most of our members have more than 500 because they have been active long enough to get over 1000....
So, why the Blitzers?!? This is the question I am really seeking the answer for.
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They\'re jealous and they have nothing better to do. You must remember you\'re dealing with 14 year old, hormone-filled teens. Not grownups. It is a common fact in the gaming world that if you spend 6 hours per day, getting 100 crystals or whatever, then anyone who gets more crystals than you (since you spend so much time) is a cheater. If you can\'t live with that fact, put people on ignore or whatever. Just don\'t let it get to you. :)
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And before little \'ol Seperot and his cronies starts talking about the \'big noob guild\' complaining again (or is he still in trouble with his mom?), let me back this up. Dont get me wrong, I respect oldbies, and not because they\'re old or have crystals, but because they\'ve stuck with this game for so long. But it seems to be you oldbies that are focusing your rage against us. I\'m sorry your guild got beat by our noob guild and members, and you\'ve lost that nostalgia for the good old days when the world revolved around you. I\'m sorry I\'ve got a galkard even though I\'ve been playing constantly for only six months and that makes you sad since now they \"[seem] as common as toothpicks now.\" (spoken by player Monk when I took mine out in the temple). I\'m playing the world\'s smallest violin for you. Do you hear it? I\'m not demanding respect, I know I\'m a younger player than most here; I\'m just asking for a stop of this bull. Show me some evidence. Give me something that tells me you\'re not just crying out of jealousy.
... I\'m a 17 year old, hormone-filled teenager, so that\'s my excuse for the previous outburst.
Edit: Oranges! (see edit of draklar\'s post)
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Well, when Moogie says something like that too.... :P
Yea; it is true although I don\'t wanna start anything bad. But, it seems like everyone chose the Blitzers as their enemy. Even people that didn\'t accuse us of cheating seems to have chosen us. It is people like you that I thank for being well, not-against-us-for-unknown-reasons. :P
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I dislike Blitzers for the mass recruitment :P as in you know the thing with getting everyone that joins PS into your guild, which means among people that will leave quickly, you get very dedicated players. And other guilds lose because they want dedicated people only :P
And I\'m 17 years old (soon 18 :D), don\'t play games at all, not to mention collecting crystals. Not jealous, since I have 2 claymores myself and would have 3rd one if I weren\'t giving my stuff away :P
so Grono has nothing on me :]
But whatever, Bora raised in my eyes alot today. She\'s one of the coolest people around :D
edit: oh yea, almost forgot: STEEL
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Well Draklar, I still have the fact that sometimes you\'re as stupid as a door. :) But let\'s leave that for now.
faldrok, you\'re not supposed to get all upset about all this publicity about Blitzers. If people have just the slightest common sense, they will know exactly what I said, that people whine simply because you\'re better than they are, and you\'ll find that many support you even though you thought all were against you. Don\'t go lose your hope just yet. :)
Oh, and Keto and Draklar... It\'s possible to be a 14 year old, hormone filled teenager even though you\'re 17 ( and soon 18 ). It\'s your behaviour that counts. ;)
Edit: Oh dear I have excellent spelling.
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Originally posted by Draklar
I dislike Blitzers for the mass recruitment :P
But whatever, Bora raised in my eyes alot today. She\'s one of the coolest people around :D
Anyone else see this as ironic? Bora was the one who did the mass recruitment, but you think she is cool and you hate the recruitment. Or, you think she is cool as OOC and dislike her as IC for the guild? I am a bit confused...
Anyways, no comments on the cheating accusations; that was the main reason I started this thread.
EDIT: And Grono, I would rather have no publicity than bad publicity. I hate being seen as the \"bad\" guys who will do anythingg to be the best. Yes, we like having the most crystals around, but we wouldn\'t go to the extremes to get it. At least not me anyways...
EDIT2: But, that is the thing. Not many people bring commen sense here to understand what you are saying. I guess it is a no-hope battle against the ones aforementioned by you, Grono. But still, I really wanna know \"Why Blitzers?\" Like I said before, why not XG or OI when they became the top guild in Crystal hunting. Oh, maybe it is because most of our members were no-namers(sry guys :P) when we did pass people on the crystals...
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I choose to ignore these rumors, you should to!
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Originally posted by Keto
And before little \'ol Seperot and his cronies starts talking about the \'big noob guild\' complaining again (or is he still in trouble with his mom?), let me back this up. Dont get me wrong, I respect oldbies, and not because they\'re old or have crystals, but because they\'ve stuck with this game for so long. But it seems to be you oldbies that are focusing your rage against us. I\'m sorry your guild got beat by our noob guild and members, and you\'ve lost that nostalgia for the good old days when the world revolved around you. I\'m sorry I\'ve got a galkard even though I\'ve been playing constantly for only six months and that makes you sad since now they \"[seem] as common as toothpicks now.\" (spoken by player Monk when I took mine out in the temple). I\'m playing the world\'s smallest violin for you. Do you hear it? I\'m not demanding respect, I know I\'m a younger player than most here; I\'m just asking for a stop of this bull. Show me some evidence. Give me something that tells me you\'re not just crying out of jealousy.
... I\'m a 17 year old, hormone-filled teenager, so that\'s my excuse for the previous outburst.
Edit: Oranges! (see edit of draklar\'s post)
Oh boy... even Keto\'s annoyed about this...
Maybe it\'s a good thing I haven\'t come in-game in a while.
Are their accusations specific at all?
I respect most of the Blitzers, of course.
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yes, go on with insults, Grono, that\'s what Aliathis are best in :P
eh, I\'m allowed to dislike guild if it has so much power only thanks to mass recruiting that took place long ago (I was in guild that did it too and you could see me whining about it a lot). But if I had something against a player just because of how he/she plays/runs something ingame then I\'d have to be complete jackass.
Umm... I hope that clears things up.
Explorers and OI didn\'t get that high because of mass recruitment. Blitzers did. Maybe that\'s the reason?
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@Gronomist - I agree about acting your age. I was just pointing out that being a \"hormone-filled teenager\" is a foolish excuse for these accusations
@DepthBlade - Personally I\'d rather kill these rumors before they get too big
@Monketh - It\'s no less friendlier than before online. But less people are roleplaying without your encouragement :(
Please note what Faldrok (as well as myself) was asking for was information on the topic of Blitzers being a bunch of cheaters. Specific accusations have obviously been carefully kept out of Blitzer ears, but the general rumors and discussions that Blitzers are cheaters has been more than a common occurence lately.
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Well, from a log is a source of someone accusing Blitzers. May not be them though, but they are getting this from someone. I also took the name out because that is irrelevant, imo.
!@#$%^ says: its hard to make an honest living these days, what with everyone in Explorers and Blitzers using modded clients... standing here is my best chance of finding crystals.
Well, there is an accusation against XG too, but everyone knows that the few that use it, use it for exploring. I think it is implied that Blitzers use it for crystal hunting, as that is what we arew good at. Here is another statement.
!@#$%^ says: I have pretty reliable source who tells me Blitzers distro their modifications to their members.
Wtf? As I am a high-ranking member in Blitzers, I know that we don\'t give out client mods(besides Aineko\'s; they are not cheating ;) ) to members. Our members play fair when it comes to crystal hunting. It is just that we have so many, it adds up very quickly.
There is the proof that Monketh wanted(:P) and it shows why I am mad. People accuse us of this. I am just stating here that we do not cheat. That is why I named it Blitzers=No cheating. :rolleyes: I don\'t really care if people hate us for having many members, just don\'t call us cheaters, when we are not. If we did cheat, then you could call us that, but we do not so STOP IT ALREADY!!!
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well I could point one blitzer as cheater (in crystal hunt), but I won\'t give the name just in case that he might already stop it. Can\'t say much about the whole cheating reputation...
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And who is that Draklar?
Its either Sinon or Ghostslayer, of course.
Ghostslayer just did a massive trade with Typo... as you can see, Typo is now on the Diamond list, and not on the ruby list.
Sinon has worked very hard to get his emmies, hunting and trading both.
Don\'t make baseless accusations... If you have evidence, present it.
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wha? why those two ?(
you know what? Just scratch my last statement. There\'s no cheating. I don\'t know why is it so hard to understand that I won\'t tell.
I find it morally wrong to get someone into trouble/make him upset without knowing if he did much harm.
And no, I have no evidence, nor I\'m accusing anyone.
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Originally posted by Draklar
wha? why those two ?
Probobly because some people associate high values of xtals with cheating. No matter, since no one has called me a cheater before (at least to my face), and if they did... they\'d hear me rant for a minute or two :P
Anyhow, I think the point that we are trying to get across is that we obviously don\'t support cheating in the game, so if you suspect someone in our guild doing something questionable, just let us know directly and we\'ll look into it. I assure you that things will get much more quickly fixed (if there is a problem) than with random rumors that tend to get blown out of proportion :)
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Originally posted by Draklar
Bora raised in my eyes alot today. She\'s one of the coolest people around :D
I agree completely :D
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well here is a couple of pennie\'s worth of my thought\'s.....
i waited four month\'s before i jioned the blitzer\'s i watched and listened to what all the guild\'s had to say in game and in forum\'s and i felt the blitzer\'s were the best guild for my char.
now as for cheating ...modding...i am new to the blitzer\'s and i can\'t speak for them just yet (not until i have gotten to know the people better) but i can say for myself you will never catch me modding a game for any reason whatso ever i like to improve my char the old fashioned way with hard work ,patience and diligence. the way i figure it if you want to play an easy game get yourself a console and buy some preteen game\'s :D
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Obviously I\'m in the Blitzers duh, they haven\'t been cheating. And who really cares about mass recruiting that\'s our problem, we choose to run things the way we do.
Secondly, Faldrok they say this because they somewhat care about us, if they really didn\'t care they would have just sat back and ya whatever, okay Blitzers yah yah.
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Bah, my apologies Draklar. I seem to get into the defensive quite easily.
Originally posted by Draklar
well I could point one blitzer as cheater (in crystal hunt), but I won\'t give the name just in case that he might already stop it. Can\'t say much about the whole cheating reputation...
In this post it seemed to me that you said that someone on the top 10 crystal lists was cheating. My mistake.
[IC] Aha! I know what this is ALL about! It\'s because I got Chrischoo to say \"Yay Blitzers\"!!! You are all jealous of the mighty Blitzers now! The omnipotent server god has clearly stated his well-wishes for the one, the only, Blitzers!
Well, you shan\'t ruin the glory of the illustrious Blitzers with these petty accusations! I for one would rather see my house burn than to listen to anymore of this rubbish!
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Edit: Stupid little spelling mistakes and word choices
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well I still don\'t understand one thing...
If people call you cheaters ingame, why are you asking about it here? You know most of ingame people don\'t come to PS forums, right?
Why not asking people that actually call you cheaters?
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W00t. Client mods. I should have thought of that. :P
Yeah, u all sux. Everyone hates you coz u\'r rich and big. It\'s the same reason everyone hates M1cros0ft. :D
Edit: Apparently, I\'ve just heard that I\'m the famous cheater for some reason. So your all clear xD. I\'ll get back to you as soon as I know what I\'ve done. :D
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ok this might be me but SHOULD THIS BE IN THE HYDLAA.
and next to that, just ignore them, they are people that have no lives but wank*ng infront of a picture of angelina jolie.
just forget they are alive, they are jealous little weasels that want to give you bad publicity, but the only bad publicity you can get is by making it yourself, if you ignore these posts and just don\'t respond these rumors will stop soon enough.
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Er, people did accuse us of cheating when we ran at the crystals. You\'re gonna work up to the top, then you gotta deal with the flak. No use kvetching about it, any guild that want\'s to be in that position has gotta have some thick skin.
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Crystal lists, weapons...ph!
\"Amor sceleratus habendi\" - Ovid
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Originally posted by dorbian
ok this might be me but SHOULD THIS BE IN THE HYDLAA.
aye, just you. I believe everyone else thinks that guild discussions belong in guilds forum.
oh yea, I accused Explorers of cheating... that might be because I\'ve seen Swallowman simply teleporting :P (no, he wasn\'t going to player spawn point... we had guards there :]) and maybe because he was getting messages about spawning diamonds... and knew when someone picked them up :P
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You just need to read the console output for that Draklar. ;)
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ooo... ok, still teleporting is pretty unusual :P
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Originally posted by Xordan
Yeah, u all sux. Everyone hates you coz u\'r rich and big. It\'s the same reason everyone hates M1cros0ft. :D
thats EXACTLY what i was going to say
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I don\'t understand, and i don\'t care.