PlaneShift

Gameplay => Wish list => Topic started by: quiksilver012 on May 23, 2004, 04:07:44 am

Title: Important! Less high end Planeshift
Post by: quiksilver012 on May 23, 2004, 04:07:44 am
I really think Planeshift should have a version you can play right off the web page, that doesnt require a high end computer. Some people cant fit an ever growing one day up to 500 mb game. It would be good.
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Post by: Altharion on May 23, 2004, 05:06:45 am
now that\'s comedy
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Post by: Eneji on May 23, 2004, 06:23:33 am
We could do that....if....

....You take out the weather, make the graphics more grainy, narrow down the choice of characters to 2 different characters, take out a huge chunk of the current city while never expanding on it, and finally, forget the whole concept of the game being 3d....

....then the game might actually run on a browser ;)
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Post by: Xanaroth on May 23, 2004, 10:35:13 am
welll..... i have my doubts about that :S
Do you really think a game with like that will already be able to play on a browser?
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Post by: cyborgzero1 on May 23, 2004, 10:51:49 pm
i think within another 14months and reasonable computer should be quite affordable but on the subject i think it would be kool if you could access the game in many different types of views such as grainy graphics or even in a 2d level where you can see the world in a 2d bird\'s eye vision while every one else could see you in 3d...this way you can play the game even if you have a 56k or perhaps even through your PDA or cell phone!
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Post by: Karyuu on May 23, 2004, 11:06:46 pm
Doesn\'t seem reasonable. The devs probably want to concentrate on making the game decent and as close to an rpg in one form before even considering something else.
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Post by: tygerwilde on May 23, 2004, 11:55:19 pm
I don\'t see it happening either, I mean, there are many far more important things for the developers to consider, like say, content...

it takes a long time to create things like story lines, quests, in game objects, terrain, Npc personalities, economy... etc. etc. etc. and that\'s only a small percentage of the things they have to do

if they\'ve got a functioning engine, I can\'t see them creating another just so you can play it from your browser. it would be a tremendous waste of time on their part, I would imagine that they\'re just as eager as everyone else to see a working product out as soon as possible, and I don\'t know if they would care to bother doing something that moot.
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Post by: Xordan on May 24, 2004, 01:15:28 am
omg, I download like 1.5Gb a day, at least....
You think 500mb is big? Most games are over 1gb now anyway, so most pc\'s can handle it.
Title: PS in a Browser (3D) Is Possible:
Post by: Zeraph on May 24, 2004, 02:39:41 pm
Well, I have been working this out for a little wile before this thread & I came up with Shockwave3D! I exported what was originally going to be my test WorldFile & Decided to export to Shockwave3D & Play around with it a little. I got this very quickly, it?s a small place with some textures, but I didn?t texture the treetops yet.

I made basic movement:
[Up] [Down]
&
  • (for Camera Reset).


I haven?t yet figured out gravity or Avoidance, but I think I can get a pre-made script somewhere? as for the MMORPG, I have played some mmog?s that run in Shockwave3D but I do not have a server right now?

You can set things like optimize the Textures & Geometry For fast loading & performance. Anyways, Here it is:

http://www.geocities.com/zeraphsimagehost/SwF/?PSWalkTest.dcr

You may need to download this plugin to view it: http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi

I am sorry if ShockWave3D is not supported on your computer?
I originally worked on this for sharing World files with people in the chat rooms?

Edit: You can Export already made World files from 3DsMax format directly to Shockwave3D! so making new geometry/textures is not a problem?
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Post by: nightwolfz on May 24, 2004, 08:51:49 pm
Shockwave or flash = baaaad

Its (very) highly hackable ... believe me ;)
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Post by: Monketh on May 25, 2004, 12:29:34 am
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Originally posted by quiksilver012
I really think Planeshift should have a version you can play right off the web page, that doesnt require a high end computer. Some people cant fit an ever growing one day up to 500 mb game. It would be good.


They made a game like that, it\'s called racoonscape, or wait, was it crooncape, or maybe Boon of The Apes.
Oh yeah! It was called, well, I\'m not at liberty to discuss cursed name of the dastardly program at this time.  Let it be known as runescape.

More and more often, quik, games have been growing to a size of ~.8GB.  Many exceed that.  It is highly improbable a \"Planeshift-Lite\" will ever exist.

The answer to the problem is simple: stop using a computer left over from the \'90s.  My brother just saw an ad for two gig\'s of RAM on a laptop.  Last time I checked a new HD of about 30 gig\'s cost 90 bucks. ($90USD)
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Post by: Cirque on May 25, 2004, 01:39:26 am
Or \"Planeshift-Classic\". I hope rats nest in runescapes servers and get electricuted and die and get caught on fire and burn their building to the ground in a blaze of glory. Then ill be there with a bag of marshmellows to cook on the flames.
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Post by: John_Thazer on May 25, 2004, 08:22:28 am
Have to agree that web-based planeshift doesn\'t sound all too good to me...You don\'t really need high end computer to run planeshift...more over next version should take less computer capacity...
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Post by: dorbian on May 25, 2004, 08:56:58 am
well it does sound cool, if you forget that high end computer part for a bit and you start thinking about people that are working, like me.
this way you can play the game while at work, communicate in game while at work, all that is a great addition, maybe a bit hard to realise, but it should be doable if you find the right people for it.
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Post by: cyborgzero1 on May 26, 2004, 04:51:01 am
beats playing minesweeper when you\'re bored at your aunt\'s place for dinner lol...question, will this game be playable for those with 56k modems?
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Post by: Vengeance on May 26, 2004, 06:14:14 am
The hardware requirements for PS are going up, not down.  Sorry.  Time goes by and technology advances.
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Post by: Xanaroth on May 26, 2004, 08:46:38 am
I already suspected as much, with al the graphs and bandwith needed it was just a matter of time...
Thank god i am getting a new pc in a few weeks :P
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Post by: Cirque on May 26, 2004, 06:02:26 pm
As long as the game is heavily optimised. Cause my ram chokes when playing PS. I can play alot of other games with system requirements that are far greater than PlaneShifts and they run quite well.
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Post by: Zeraph on May 26, 2004, 06:05:10 pm
Cal3D will probably fix most the problems with memory?
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Post by: The Limpid School on May 27, 2004, 04:37:05 am
Keep in mind that PlaneShift is running on donated
server space. A web based version would need sooooo much more room. At
the moment all you really can do to increase performance is lower
resolution and turn off sound, but how low can you go before it is not
playable anymore?
Title: bandwidth
Post by: cyborgzero1 on May 27, 2004, 06:10:10 am
other than memory and graphics...is it possible to play the game over low bandwidth?
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Post by: Vengeance on May 27, 2004, 07:03:33 am
Yes.  Bandwidth is not the issue.
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Post by: Seytra on June 02, 2004, 02:14:31 am
The protocol and other necessary details are open. One could probably whip up a textmode / ASCII-Art version of PS if one really wanted to... then again, I\'d rather upgrade my computer, it\'s about time anyway. ;)

I however DO agree that the resolution / detail settings are good things.
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Post by: Midnight Falcon on June 09, 2004, 03:54:13 am
me and my friend both have 56k modems but we have good computers, so will we still be able to play, and if so will we lag so much that ppl will just kill us and it will be pointless?
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Post by: Seytra on June 10, 2004, 01:35:34 am
No, your lag will be due to the unrefined engine code. Your 56k modems should be fine as long as they deliver an effective throughput of ~ 1k, which should be no problem even with the worst phone lines. The demand of CB might increase, but I doubt it\'ll increase by more than factor 10, so even an old 14.4k modem would still suffice. So I\'d expect you to be perfectly fine.
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Post by: lucius on June 10, 2004, 09:22:00 am
Dude , there\'s plenty of MUDs all over the web . Why don\'t you just look for something that suits you :D
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Post by: Davis on June 10, 2004, 10:08:58 pm
Browser-based PS? You want to have to download the game every time you want to play it?
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Post by: Midnight Falcon on June 10, 2004, 11:03:38 pm
(excuse me for sounding like a newb, but....)
whats an MUD?
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Post by: lucius on June 10, 2004, 11:51:01 pm
Multi User Dungeon ... Those are actualy browser based games .
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Post by: Midnight Falcon on June 11, 2004, 06:21:48 am
thanx Lucius, ur awesome.... and no im not interested in browser based PS, it would be so garbage....