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Fan Area => Fan Art => Topic started by: Hadfael on May 25, 2004, 11:58:57 pm

Title: crosseyed 3D rear view of Laanx temple
Post by: Hadfael on May 25, 2004, 11:58:57 pm
(http://perso.wanadoo.fr/locutus.borg/3dtemplex.jpg)
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Post by: Skizzik on May 26, 2004, 12:23:49 am
Somehow that doesnt work for me, when I cross my eyes everything becomes WAY too blurry. But I guess that\'s just me. :P
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Post by: Erik on May 26, 2004, 12:24:27 am
(http://www.reefrelief.org/kids/pic/difference.jpg)
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Post by: Skizzik on May 26, 2004, 12:52:00 am
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I really hope I\'m missing out on some kind of great joke here, \'cause if I\'m not, that post was kinda... erm... disturbing? :P
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Post by: Hadfael on May 26, 2004, 01:25:15 am
if it\'s too blurry, try not to stay to lose of your screen, fix a claw of the tower and cross your eyes until you see 3 pictures. the center one will show the 3D effect
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Post by: Cirque on May 26, 2004, 05:24:17 am
Yeah I get where your coming from with that. Although even when you do get 3 images the center one is still blurry.
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Post by: Socrates Demise on May 26, 2004, 05:48:46 am
It was alot easier to do when I stopped trying to do the Magic Eyes thing where you actually move your eyes further apart

Once you grab focus of it it\'s easy to keep your eyes there.

Edit: see next post
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Post by: Uyaem on May 26, 2004, 08:21:57 am
Socrates, you effectively wrecked it :( ;)
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Post by: Socrates Demise on May 26, 2004, 10:15:29 am
Sorry I\'m not sure if that\'s right I\'ll fix it

I agree I\'d be upset if I\'d seen my old last post

Edit: is there an award for the most edits?
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Post by: T?ri Tasart on May 26, 2004, 04:57:26 pm
Hi! This 3D picture is great! But it needs to be smaller! :) You have to cross your eyes so much it hurts! But I was able to do it and it looks really good, so please do more (smaller ones)! :D
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Post by: Fanomatic2000 on May 26, 2004, 05:20:32 pm
Darn...I think my eyes locked.... (http://www.mcseworld.com/forums/images/smilies/cross_eyed.gif)
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Post by: Xandria on May 27, 2004, 09:19:25 am
Wow, that is really cool Golmir!! :)

Okay, here\'s something that I found out that seems to make it easier; give it a try if you\'re having a hard time seeing the image.

1) Get into a comfortable position where you\'re staring straight at the center of the image, about 24\"-36\" away
2) Take a pencil, butter knife, your index finger, etc. and hold it near the center of the image, close to the screen
3) Lock your eyes on the object; it should be far enough away to be easy to see.  Remember, don\'t start too close to the screen (unless you\'re using a 13\" monitor, then you might need to get kinda close ;) )
4) Slowly move the object toward your face, keeping your eyes focused on the object
5) While still focusing on the object, pay attention to the screen and notice the two pictures turn into four, and start moving closer together
6) When the two middle images overlap and form one image, stop moving the object, and make slight adjustments so that the middle image looks as lined up as possible
7) Shift your eyes to the image and try to lock onto it.  Keep the object there, because if you loose your focus you\'ll need to lock onto it again.  I\'ve found that quickly switching between the object and the image a few times seems to help, but that\'s just me ;)
8.) Once you\'ve got a hold of the image, move the object away and keep your eyes in position, and enjoy! :)

Golmir, would you mind sharing the technique you used to create these images?  Is there a trick to use to make sure you get the right shift between the images?
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Post by: T?ri Tasart on May 27, 2004, 09:46:24 am
All I have to do is look at the image and cross my eyes. :P It\'s not like a normal eye-maze picture, where you must move your eyes apart in order to see the 3D image. But I still find both versions of 3D eye-mazes easy to see! :)
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Post by: DepthBlade on May 27, 2004, 04:26:24 pm
Erick that picture differences that I noticed are:

The bottom pictures top line has a larger space between the top of the image, the top pictures top line hits the top!

There is also some shell towards the bottom right, well sorta middle to that is dark on one picture and white on the other!
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Post by: Cirque on May 27, 2004, 07:19:23 pm
Ive got all ten +1 more which I think may be a printing error.

*EDIT* Hmm the post assassin has deleted 4 more of my posts.
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Post by: Taurenthefirst on May 28, 2004, 02:02:55 am
fishies behind the shark are different, that plus depths 2 makes 3, to the right of the shark there is a fish missing, that makes 4, shark has less stripes thats 5, should i go on or let people figure the rest of them out? ( me have found all 10 :D)
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Post by: BlueScreenJunky on May 28, 2004, 10:22:31 am
T_T  I can\'t do the \"cross your eyes\" thing, I can only see regular stereograms with the \"move your eyes appart\" technique.
So the houses in the back look closer than the temple lol.


Nice idea though, I\'m gonna practice some more and see if I can get it right.
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Post by: Icefalcon on May 29, 2004, 01:00:04 am
Thats really cool, at first I couldn\'t see it, but I figured it out, and I must say the temple looks awesome in 3D, I wish the whole game was 3D that way...somehow :D
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Post by: Hadfael on June 14, 2004, 10:08:46 am
about the 3D temple (and not the fishes)

the theory to see a 3D effect is to take 2 pictures centered on the same object with an angle of about 10 degrees. But it\'s sometimes too much, because in reality, our eyes are not moving away as we move backward.

To take the screenshots, take one view corresponding to one eye (say the right eye first). Then move a few steps to the left, and take another screenshot for the left eye view. The subject must not move (that\'s why I did not try yet a 3D view of a char as they are breathing).

Many techniques are avaliable to display the depth.
- crossed eyes
   the left view is to the right side of the picture. the viewer must cross his eyes until he sees 3 times the picture. The center shows the effect. You can use your hands to  hide the extra side pictures. If it\'s too blurry, concentrate on one point and move backward.
- Parallel view
  The left picture is displayed on the left. The eyes must stay parallel. Try too look far away.
- Anaglyphs
  Using filters of different complementary colors  magenta/Blue or Red/Cyan. Both images are filtered and merged. This technique can hardly display colored images if the subject contains areas of one of the filtered colors (a red area will be only seen by one eye). This is why it\'s often used with black and white pictures.
- other methods
   some others methods can be used to display the 2 views at the same place but with a time delay. Some gfx cards can synchronise the display with glasses that are hiding one eye since the other is looking at its view. You can also use the time used by the brain to identify a dark image and use dark/light filters. A simple Jpeg can\'t be used for this methods.

About doing the game 3D, it needs to render 2 frames from different angles for each image (such dividing at least by 2 the framerate). And unless you use the anaglyph method, you have to focus your sight to a different distance than the convergence point. That can cause you a headhache.
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Post by: Skizzik on June 14, 2004, 10:45:34 pm
As far as I know, all the games that went 3D (and miserably failed), used one of those glasses that blind one eye after the other. This would mean that people would have to buy one of those weird glasses.
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Post by: Taurenthefirst on June 16, 2004, 05:37:00 pm
hey awesome i finally got it to work!
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Post by: Ineluke on June 16, 2004, 06:04:17 pm
Looks like someone just finished reading a bit on sterio phtography :D

Now If you got a vid that would be cool...
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Post by: sesmi on July 18, 2004, 06:12:44 pm
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Originally posted by Erik
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I really hope I\'m missing out on some kind of great joke here, \'cause if I\'m not, that post was kinda... erm... disturbing? :P


ya got that rite!!!!