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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Icefalcon on June 05, 2004, 02:25:38 am
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?There is one certainty, and that is death?
The greatest battle a warrior must face is the battle against fear. All who take the life of the mercenary have emerged victorious from this conflict. When death is no longer feared, an obstacle becomes a tool. This tool shall not be used in the name of politics, honour, justice or love. The services of the Guild may only be
called upon in exchange for currency. A life is worthless, until a bounty is placed upon it. Beyond that, your motivations are not our concern.
?Death is the only law, and we are its masters?
Our world is one of chaos, not order, and strength inevitably triumphs ? the Guild is a bastion of strength and, inevitably, it shall triumph. If you are weak, our strength may be purchased. The guild offers a range of services, a range of prices, and a range of operatives. The harder the job, the higher the price; the more experienced the operative you choose to employ, the more you must pay. Espionage, guild wars, body guarding, armed escort, garrisoning ? all are within our abilities, as long as they are within your budget. If you have the gold, we have the steel.
?We are a brotherhood of blood?
Be aware, that while the Guild is above the petty squabbles of politics, and its primary motivation is the pursuit of wealth, its members are loyally bound to each other through their knowledge of pain. Treachery shall not be tolerated, whether between members or from outsiders. The pride of the Guild shall at all times be maintained, and shall be mortally defended by its champions if it is challenged. Therefore, do not doubt that to cross us is to welcome death, no matter how much you can pay.
This is a short summary of the key points about our guild:
- The Mercenary Guild is a combat guild. (combat skills Are what we pride ourselves on)
- We are open to nearly any type of character as long as they can handle themselves in a fight; this includes both competent warriors, magic-users and stealthy rouges. Essentially the Mercenary guild holds combat skills (including magic), followed by stealth as the most important attributes to becoming a good mercenary.
- Merchants will not be accepted into the guild. Other proficiencies such as healing will be accepted.
- We are neutral; in terms of world politics, the good vs. the bad, the shifting of power between guilds; none of these things concern us, and we will not involve ourselves unless paid to do so.
- We will protect our own interests. Anyone who interferes with our aims or goals will be dealt with. Put simply, someone taking potential customers is biting into potential profit. As such competitor mercenaries/defenders are treated as enemies.
- Members will be expected to train as much as possible when there is no mission, on top of this they will be expected to role-play, remain active and finally represent the guild to the best of their abilities.
- The aim of the guild is wealth. We are a business fraternity; we seek to make the mercenary market as profitable as possible, and as consumer friendly as we can.
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There has been a few changes in the Mercenary Guild. We have lost our founder and Legend, Zephyrus. The Guild Hierarchy has been changed slightly, the Guild is now ruled by the Council of Champions. And the website has had some content and graphical improvements. We are accepting anyone to become an Apprentice, but you must prove yourself worthy before becoming an actual member.
Also, If you want to hire the Guild for a character portrait, signature, or whatever, please visit our forums. (http://icefalcon.proboards27.com/index.cgi)
The Mercenary Guild (http://mercenary.fragnetics.com/)
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Ooh fancy dancy! Still looking good as usual! I like that new signature, im still waiting for that one inferno is making me...
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Yeah, thats taking forever. But a month after she makes it for you, you\'ll get sick of it and make a new one...as usual :]
DepthBlade, you should quit the Xperto and join us :D
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Nice new thread Ice =)
We are also friendly to newcomers and we RolePlay at the forums, so remember to check once in a while ;)
If you seek wealth and a good roleplaying group, you have just found the right guild (Only if you are active of course =D).
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Quit the Xperto 8o ?
I don\'t think my members would appreciate that much :)
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Originally posted by snow_RAveN
as ususal a boreing update from another guild cant you guys get intresting ?
i guess if you guys die then you dont get paied eah ?
This update is actually important and needed. A lot has changed. Important members like Zephyrus have left the guild and new members (like me) have entered. The site went through some changes too. The slogan too...
If we die we still get paid. Also, I know you want the worst spelling award, but sometimes you just gotta let it go.
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Originally posted by TheRedMonk
*Tybalt whispers to Icefalcon \"That probably won\'t help\"
I think what Icefalcon really means is that it\'s not annoying...so you can remove it :)
Ah, it never even crossed my mind that he wanted to be annoying, I mean, how many people want others to dislike them? It just doesn\'t make sense in my mind.
Anyway, I will soon be back with full force as my comp is just out of the shop and I need to get some info from my ISP to get the internet working again. 8)
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welcome back icefalcon, I noticed TMG forums say you have a new member and yet the website, and this thread do not :P
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Sorry, sorry, further complications have prolonged my internet inactivity. And I am not sure right now how this is gonna turn out... my life is still flashing before my eyes, as it has been for months. You have no idea what agony and depression I have been going through.
But anyway, yes we do have a new member, welcome to Pussimus.
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Originally posted by Icefalcon
- We are neutral; in terms of world politics, the good vs. the bad, the shifting of power between guilds; none of these things concern us, and we will not involve ourselves unless paid to do so.
So why are you not unaligned then? For me neutral is something between good and evil, law and chaos,... Neutral is rather an opinion about how the world should be, instead of some kind of apathy.
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Actually, when I think of neutral, it means neither good, nor evil. We do not support the forces of good, nor the forces of evil, unless we are paid.
Some definitions...
Neutral
-\"Not aligned with, supporting, or favoring either side in a war, dispute, or contest.\"
-\"Belonging to neither kind; not one thing or the other.\"
-\"One who takes no side in a controversy\"
So unless we are paid to temporarily switch to one side, we are nuetral. There have been many conflicting views concerning what a neutral alignment really is, so I don\'t think there is really a clear definition.
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Just a thought - perhaps instead of alliances you could have preffered customers who get special discounts and in return they could give you a discount on their wares; like armour or weaponary. Or they could help you erradicate \"competition mercenaries\"...
Or alternatively have some kind of store credit system, like \"you scratch our back, we\'ll scratch yours\".
I mean with that arrangement you can still sell tham out as its more of a buisiness deal than a pact.
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Hmm, yes, I will mention this to the other Champions. That sounds like a good idea Zeph.
We also have a couple new members, though they have gone inactive already. Go figure...
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The former leader of the Xperto, DepthBlade has joined the Mercenary Guild. We humbly welcome you DepthBlade.
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YUPPI!!! A member that is known to be active!
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There are worse guilds out there to join, good luck with the mercenaries Depth; I\'m sure they will bring you wealth beyond measure. I see you chose Cerberus Division, interesting choice.
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Yeah, who knows, he might even replace Keung as Champion.
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Aye Thank you *bows*! Yes being active is one thing you won\'t after to worry about me not doing, and I plan on gaining as much foothold as I can in the ranks of Mercenaries! This game needs less leaders and more dedicated members and I have donated myself to the cause.
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noooo. X(
- We are neutral; in terms of world politics, the good vs. the bad, the shifting of power between guilds; none of these things concern us, and we will not involve ourselves unless paid to do so.
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Originally posted by Zephyrus
Just a thought - perhaps instead of alliances you could have preffered customers who get special discounts and in return they could give you a discount on their wares; like armour or weaponary. Or they could help you erradicate \"competition mercenaries\"...
Or alternatively have some kind of store credit system, like \"you scratch our back, we\'ll scratch yours\".
I mean with that arrangement you can still sell tham out as its more of a buisiness deal than a pact.
We might have preffered costomers though ;)
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It could be like protection money... A craftsman guild will make us armour and weapons, and for that we will get rid of their compotition..
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Or just consider natural payment...
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Payment method should always vary, some guilds might not have a whole bunch of money but like R.V said maybe its a craftsguild making armor and weapons. Make a fair exchange with what they have as the reward, that could go for cooking guilds, etc...We will need those things to and if we are primarily just doing Mercenary work will we have that time to go off into those things?
@lynx - although this guild is neutral and only concerns itself with customers i still hold the right to go off on my own and fight my own battles under my beliefs and if people choose to join me thats just FINE!
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Of course, we are totally neutral until paid to do otherwise, so our individual members, as long as they break no rules, can do basically whatever they want.
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Originally posted by DepthBlade
Payment method should always vary, some guilds might not have a whole bunch of money but like R.V said maybe its a craftsguild making armor and weapons. Make a fair exchange with what they have as the reward, that could go for cooking guilds, etc...We will need those things to and if we are primarily just doing Mercenary work will we have that time to go off into those things?
just what i said. :D
@lynx - although this guild is neutral and only concerns itself with customers i still hold the right to go off on my own and fight my own battles under my beliefs and if people choose to join me thats just FINE!
Sure you do, but what can one bee do to a man? Nothing but a temporary wound. It takes a swarm to kill one.
And it\'s naive to think that such acts wouldn\'t interfere with the guild.
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phew so this is where depth went to....still too scared to join evil. I understand :P
Anyways luck with the guild. *Writes in his little book* hehe
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*proposes a toast to the Cabal*
...because every world needs a bunch of jerks who everybody wants to kill! :D
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I\'ll click mugs for that toast! *Cheers* Oh and welcome back Keung?
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*joins in* \"Cheers\"...
Cadoras was just too good (or bad :D ) for us I guess.
Little news update. We have a new member, welcome Kamezero. He appears to be a promising member, along with Cloud.
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I am leaving on vacation in about half an hour, leaving the province! So I will be back on meh August 8...maybe..so seeya then!
P.S: Hopefully release isn\'t put out, but if it is...who cares!
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And I am leaving tomorrow for vacation, comming back on the 9th. Im sure everyone can handle the guild without me and Depth :]
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OOC: I just got back from vacation a day or so early, storming where I was so I left only to find out it is storming here as well! Oh well feels good to have a bed instead of the grass to sleep on :P
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silly enki, pah! Do you need a soft pillow aswell!? :P
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Hey, whats wrong with a soft pillow?...
News Update: Welcome Slobow to the Mercenary Guild
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News: We have a new member! =D
All welcome, lady Lazula!
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Aye Greetings Lady Lazula, may you prove to be a valuable asset to the Mercenaries and upon this community! Good Luck and I hope you decide to push yourself passed Apprentice and into a permanent member position!
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So... well... uh, how\'s it going?
Everything smooth?
How\'s the family, eh, guys?
How are your great-great-grandparents? Still dead?
...Ok, i have nothing to say. I guess i\'ll shut up now.
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Yesyes, bump bump, eh? ;)
Hmm maybe it\'s about time the AO made a new thread...Maybe in a week or two :)
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Well, Lazzy has made it to Initiate status. Yay, *cheers* She had better stick around. Too many people leave nowadays...
Thx for the bump Karakth ;)
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*Cheers loudly for Lazula* That much closer to the top! Congradulations ^^
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It could be like protection money... A craftsman guild will make us armour and weapons, and for that we will get rid of their compotition..
Ahhhh... you\'re gonna bully the market eh? I can\'t let that happen!
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Originally posted by FlippySeal
Ahhhh... you\'re gonna bully the market eh? I can\'t let that happen!
We\'d prefer to call it \"pro-active commercial intervention\".
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Meh I would just call it bully the market ^^ No shame in what we might get paid to do. Anyways markets get played all the time by greedy people, who says us pushing it alittle is going to hurt it :)
EDIT: If we were put in this situation ^^
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Besides, who\'s to say it\'s not genuine protection rather than so-called \"protection\" from us? If we\'re actualy being caravan guards and whatnot, then I see nothing wrong with it...nor anything wrong with being appropriately rewarded ;D
Oh, and by the way...
*points to his uber-spiffy sig courtesy of Icefalcon*
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Pro-active commercial intervention, i say!!
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LOL I posted the wrong reply here, the correct one is:
Seems that we are getting a new member on our guild, all welcome Shallizar.
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Call it what you will, as I will call it what I want.
It is not up to you to intervene in my perception of your guild though.
So you call it \"pro-active commercial intervention\", I\'ll call it bloody piracy, ok??
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Flippy call it what you want, but it won\'t make a difference in what will happen and if you can\'t deal with it..when the time comes you just try and stop it ^^
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The day of vengence grows closer........
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You are mistaken the day of reckoning is already upon us, the light shines upon the defeated..the light shines upon the darkness..the light shines upon the dead! I think all that is left is someone to carry out its will..now we wait...
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Hi guys! I just wondered, you said that a blacksmith guild could provide you with armor and weapons, and then you could help them get rid of competition. How did you plan do that???
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By glaring menacingly in their direction of course. It\'s fool-proof.
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We are going to do it like this
\"Excuse me, we are trying to monopolize the commerce around this region, could you move your tent north please\"
or like this
\"Bloodluth challenges you to a duel, Accept?\"
Or we bore them to death with Cadora\'s jokes, that will surely get them out quickly =3
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Originally posted by FlippySeal
So you call it \"pro-active commercial intervention\", I\'ll call it bloody piracy, ok??
Yay! That sounds much better, thanks a lot. We\'ll pay you royalties.;)
Yeah, anyways, it\'s not like we can assure that we\'re going to do it that way. We\'ll certainly have to wait until CB comes out and we can fully develop our working system.
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easily done...harrass the competition when they go to collect resources in any way possible, advertise false propaganda to make the competition seem like scum.
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Originally posted by FlippySeal: I\'ll call it bloody piracy(c)
It\'s mine!!! All mine!! 1500 tria to use it!
propaganda is everything... what we are saying that\'s propaganda.
I don\'t approve of your methods. Not that you seek or need my approval. It\'s simply an opinion of mine.
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work on your mechanisms; when a job arrives it will be in ways almost too late.
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Bad news. Jaxan just left the guild due to the lack of time and the lack of fun. T_T
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So much for competition :P
Who\'s the new leader?
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Same as it has been...the Council of Champions, currently Icefalcon, Empanado, Keung, and now Klyaksa, who has taken over Jaxan\'s duties (RussianVodka on these forums).
DepthBlade has also left us in order to rot as a freelancer. But, we have been getting a slow but steady stream of new [good] recruits (and a few bad ones), and so I am proud to say, The Mercenary Guild is far from dead, and is, and will remain, strong.
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*Bows head*
Today we morn the loss of our great champion Jaxan.
He was a one of the greatest people i miself have ever had the opertunity....
*Bables on and on about Jaxan*
.... and his departing is a great loss to our guild.
*Waits till everyone leaves*
Yes!
Im the new champion!
*Dances on Jaxans grave*
*Notices that one of the guild members is still here*
*Falls and pretends to cry over Jaxan*
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Good for you! :) I\'m sure you\'ll be able to handle the mess.
Depthblade is out!!!1 :D lalalalalala :]
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What mess? Life goes on...
Just curoius though, why does DepthBlade leaving excite you? :rolleyes:
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*shoots Klyaksa foot*
Respect the dead one. XD
it is a pitty to lose such great guildmates, but hey, if that is what they want =/
Anyway, I\'m here to backup Ice and say:
\"There is no mess, the things are steady and clean. Except for Cadoras. He is bugging us at the forums. Thank you for your attention.\"
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*now my foot is permenantly nailed to Jaxans cofin... where ever he goes i go*
We will all leave some day...
Before you know it, a couple of decades from now, our guildmates are gona read guild-history textbooks about us...
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It\'s obvious, I want him back as the exemplar force of good. Good for the Balance and general mood! :)
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Before you know it, a couple of decades from now, our guildmates are gona read guild-history textbooks about us...
That might be possible... check the thread in the General Forums.
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Originally posted by lynx_lupo
It\'s obvious, I want him back as the exemplar force of good. Good for the Balance and general mood! :)
Oh...right...of course
Before you know it, a couple of decades from now, our guildmates are gona read guild-history textbooks about us...
Oh, you had better believe it. We will be gods in Mercenary History. :D Well, I will at least :]
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Yeah, you were all here before me... but that doesn\'t matter. What matters is what people do, not the time they spend. Therefore, I will obviously be the one remembered most :P
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Not exactly the ammount of time you have been with something that gives you that good old title, it is what you have done in the time with that thing..that will make you what you are!
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Yup. Mine too. And they\'ll hurl chirimoyas at you. Lots o\'them.
By the way, did we mention that the Mercenary Guild is currently taking requests for custom character portraits/signatures? Well, we are, and we\'re also looking for fresh, active, non-1337 recruits!
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i know whe have hostilitys, but im sorry for your loss, i hope you get just as good a champion and good luck to your guild
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Edit: nvm
Hopefully, we will never be hostile, but it may happen. For now, I offer friendship.
Edit: Edit: News... The new forums are now official. Some work is still to be done, but it is open to the public now... http://mercenary.fragnetics.com/forum (http://mercenary.fragnetics.com/forum)
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A bump for our most honorable thread.
...and CB won\'t have Klyros. CURSE THEM! >:/
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Three chears for the new forums!
Hip hip horay!
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sorry, i know this is kinda a little off topic, but i had to ask. who makes the mercanary guild sigs? they are soooo neat, they all look somewhat alike so i am assuming that its the same person, right?
(if this was previously mentioned, pardon me for not looking, but it would take a long time and im feeling kinda lazy)
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That would be the work of Icefalcon. Yeah, they\'re pretty cool. All the same style but...not. o.0
Want one? Join up. >.>
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Thats got to be the lamest recruitment statement ever 8o
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Haha, It sure was :D Ah, Keung...
Ah, yeah, I make the sigs for the guild. They are all the same style, the official Mercenary Guild style, but I always make a unique background.
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Hey IceFalcon I\'m just wondering. Do you guys hire out one person, hire out a small militia, or both? And does there have to be a just cause for hiring someone from the [edit (type: typo) \"mercenary\"] guild?
I\'m just wondering because I was just curious how you guys were planning to distribute your members. Also like are there specific members for specific jobs? Like one who is hired out for a magical type purpose and one hired our for a brute force type purpose? Or is everyone trained in a little bit of everything?
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Originally posted by Kuiper7986
Hey IceFalcon I\'m just wondering. Do you guys hire out one person, hire out a small militia, or both? And does there have to be a just cause for hiring someone from the [edit (type: typo) \"mercenary\"] guild?
I\'m just wondering because I was just curious how you guys were planning to distribute your members. Also like are there specific members for specific jobs? Like one who is hired out for a magical type purpose and one hired our for a brute force type purpose? Or is everyone trained in a little bit of everything?
Our intention is to hire out as much people as needed, for the most diverse tasks. We fight for a just cause, the just-est from them all: moolah, baby.
Our staff is divided into five divisions, one for each kind of tasks. (For example, the Griffon division for magical/ long range members, or the Wraith division for stealthy jobs). Of course, you can hire just one member if you wish to, and we can suggest you the most addequate one for the job you\'re looking for. You can read up more about divisions at our site.
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Any single person can hire us for... well anything. The fighting force of our guild is broken up into five Divisions, each specializing in a seperate \"class.\"
e.g. The Phoenix Division is made up of mainly warriors, the brute force, the front lines. The Griffon Division is the ranged division, made up of archers and spellcasters, while the Pegasus Division is comprised of healers. Might as well list the other two, the Cerberus Division are made up mercs trained heavily in advanced formations and techniques for countering enemy attacks. They?re purpose is to stop enemy advancement, defend buildings and people. The Wraith Division is the main stealth and reconnaissance division. They are trained how move without being seen or heard, how to make contacts and find the truth. They are also given training in the martial arts.
Each division has a Champion, the Champions make up our oligarchy.
We do not have groups for blacksmiths, for example.
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i dont understand how you guys can plan so ahead in the game, when you have a very small idea of what the game will be like. for instance the Cerberus division, what kind of building will they protect? im not trying to offend others or their ideas, but its just odd how everyone has their own vision of the game, and some people will have to totally reconstruct their plans for the game.
and i might join, keung, if \"Helmora Velsha\" doesnt work out as well as planned. i might join just for the sig ;)
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I would hope that you will join for more than the sig, but you are welcome to attempt to prove yourself worthy ;)
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the sig thing was just a joke, id like to be a mercanary.. it would me the guild would hae a strong foundation...and i know some cool things we could do with that money, but i dont want anyone to steal it..even though its on teh site (shh...keep it secret if you know what im talking about, which many of you probably dont=P)
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it would me the guild would hae a strong foundation
Yeah, thats kinda... vague. Nope, can\'t make any sense out of it.
Anyway, if you are seriously interested, visit our forums at http://mercenary.fragnetics.com/forum
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I think he was going for something along the lines of \"It would seem to me the guild has a strong foundation\"...probably typos due to alcohol, lack of sleep, distraction, or any combination thereof.
And as far as that goes, yeah, we\'re solid. Members have come and gone but Zephy established the guild in...September of last year, was it? Empanado\'s the oldest member and I\'m second-oldest. =3
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No, before that, it officially started in the spring of 2003, I believe. Check the Archives.
Anyway, yes we do have a firm foundation. :O
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yes i did mean that, and i was drunk, had a lack of sleep, and was being distracted by the other IE window(porn) no jk.. must have dozed off or been listening to a good song..can there be a spot saved for me if HV ever crashes? i dunno if i wanna join yet, we will have to wait for CB to come out. so... that could be like..in a year? LoL, no offense devs
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Originally posted by Edooo
yes i did mean that, and i was drunk, had a lack of sleep, and was being distracted by the other IE window(porn) no jk.. must have dozed off or been listening to a good song..can there be a spot saved for me if HV ever crashes? i dunno if i wanna join yet, we will have to wait for CB to come out. so... that could be like..in a year? LoL, no offense devs
-_- Wow you sure are one confident member of your current guild..I am suprised FESFES allows you to be in his group. You pretty much just became a traitor..requesting to join another guild (Thinking about it) when you are in one already. Next time maybe you should keep this kind of subject in private, because you really are making somewhat of a fool out of yourself.
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How do we know he wont abandone our guild and go to some other?
As far as the begining of the guild, i think it was created on April 16th 2003... but i could be wrong.
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All right, I checked and it was actually the seventh of April.
7th of April 2003:
The mercenary guild is setup and is now accepting Apprentices.
There it is, short yet powerful. Zeph really has a way with words doesn\'t he?
Edit: Ha, a little humor in the archives...
However I will not promote anyone beyond initiate until Crystal Blue.
Ha! :))
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Originally posted by Icefalcon
However I will not promote anyone beyond initiate until Crystal Blue.
Ha! :))
Oh yeah... those were they days.... i remember when Zeph still had that rule in effect.
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is zeph the owner of the mercanary guild? i never knew that.
anyway, im not trying to abandon helmora, but if, by chance, we do crash and burn, i want to have a back up plan, just in case, but i would almost never betray a good friend.is it a sin to have a Plan B? (dont say \"no, but it is a sin to betray a friend,\" or anything along the lines of that) im not saying the hv is gonna suck, but fes kinda go off to a bad start with some people, and everyone was mad at him and i. so if people don\'t join becuse of that, i want to be able to go somewhere else just in case so im not betraying a friend(well, not really)
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In a nutshell, Zeph founded the guild, but then betrayed it. :O
but fes kinda go off to a bad start with some people, and everyone was mad at him and i
And, yeah. True :rolleyes:
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betrayed it how? did he like ditch you guys and go to another guild? if so, why? if not, then what did he do?
so is he on the enemy list of the guild?
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So much for my nutshell approach...
Ok, Zephyrus founded the Mercenary Guild, but after having troubles with his life, he passed the leadership to Jaxan. Very soon after, however, we switched to our Council of Champions way of government. Zephyrus became a Legend, the very highest rank, though not on the council of Champions. Later, for unknown reasons, he apparently became sick of TMG and joined with Seppies Incencio Tenebrae.
And the Mercenary Guild does not have enemies, we get business from whomever we can. Enemies would obviously decrease our income :))
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ok, i understand now... but do you guys like him? i mean since he betrayed your guild. i dont mean enemy you wont sell to him, i mean enemy you dont like him that much, or maybe you could overcharge him. kinda the opposite of preffered customers
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He is still a very respected planeshifter, at least in my book. And no, we will not discriminate (sp?) against him, or anyone.
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ok, cool now i know a lot more about your guild. and you know about mine, i would assume.
PS: (sp?) = ???
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(sp?) = Spelling?
And remember, todays enemy is tommorows paycheck.
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hah, funny. so no discriminated or preffered customers? i think you guys should include preffered customers, you will get more customers and stuff. if i had a mercanary guild, i would have preffered customers.
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Yes, but if you had preferred customers, you wouldn\'t be truly neutral. If there\'s one law Mercs live by (aside from \"money is good\"), it\'s \"NEUTRALITY ABOVE ALL\".
If you\'re not impartial, you\'re not staying true to your mercenary nature. Gold is the only motivator. Prove that you will follow the gold, and the jobs will come. People have to see that they can buy you, and once it\'s done, a deal is a deal. I don\'t think \"preferred customers\" would react well when they ended up on the other side of your army. Hence, complete neutrality.
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Yep. Besides, he didn\'t just dump us, he took the time to modify the website, etc. And he still stops by the forums. He\'s just your random evil guy now ;)
Besides, he\'s not an elf. That scores him some points.
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Originally posted by Empanado
Besides, he\'s not an elf. That scores him some points.
Now now Empanado, what have we learned about \"perfered customers\".
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Originally posted by Keung Darosyl
Yes, but if you had preferred customers, you wouldn\'t be truly neutral. If there\'s one law Mercs live by (aside from \"money is good\"), it\'s \"NEUTRALITY ABOVE ALL\".
If you\'re not impartial, you\'re not staying true to your mercenary nature. Gold is the only motivator. Prove that you will follow the gold, and the jobs will come. People have to see that they can buy you, and once it\'s done, a deal is a deal. I don\'t think \"preferred customers\" would react well when they ended up on the other side of your army. Hence, complete neutrality.
whoa, i lost you at about the start of the first paragraph. why wouldnt oyu be neutral if you had pref customers? its just like saying, \"thanks for coming, next time you can pay less.\"
and if someone tells me what impartial means, ill understand it more.
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Impartial = not taking sides
The mercenary guild was impartial in order to stay neutral.
Why would it make the mercenary guild no longer neutral if they gave away preferred customer status?
Because guilds that did not get this status would see this as biased towards that guild.
If that guild was in a war with another guild and was seriously thinking hiring a mercenary guild and it finds out the other guild has preferred status then you\'ve lost that deal.
It\'s also a loss of profit. \'Shrug.\'
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its not really a loss of profit, because they arent buying any supplies or anything for each job. they arent gonna go buy an entirely new sword or armor etc just because they have a job, and its not labor, becaue they are playing a game, so they cant \"lose profit\"
well... maybe
because they\'re getting less profit than usual..
Pronunciation: \'pr?-f&t
Function: noun
1 : a valuable return : GAIN
so according to Merriam Webster online, they aren\'t not gaining...so would this be a loss of profit or not...
*scratches head*
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No way, you are really confusing me now...
Pronunciation: \'pr?-f&t
Function: noun
1 : a valuable return : GAIN
what? what on earth is \'pr?-f&t it looks and sounds nothing like profit looks more like \'pr?-f&t and sounds like pra fatt...
The last scentence, you double negatived yourself. Nice one. Or you meant to, see how confusing your posts are! It is a loss of profit if you give prefferred customer status to someone because they will pay less for things. Anyway remember the neutral theology.
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Loss of profit since we will be getting less, but it is not like we are losing our money, we are making less. Stop trying to confuse everyone, both of you XD (j/k)
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i double negatived on purpose to show what i am saying, with no intention to confuse. its actually really easier for me to understand, but can be confusing...
the pronounciation part i used ctrl+C/ctrl+V and i guess the letters arent usable here, but the pronunciation is unimportant.
my posts might be confusing, but to some they arent, and at least i dont flame/critisize in all of my posts! you have 6 posts all of wich you are doing one of the 2 (uncool), i think your having your period(joke)
and who cares if you make less, you are still making profit
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What do you mean who cares? If we make 4 tria when we could have made 5 thats a loss in my book.
Oh yeah introductions are in order. I am KameZero proud member of the mercenary guild for a few months.
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its not a big loss. and you could make acheiving(sp?) preffered customer rank dfficult, so that you dont lose 500 tria a day.
hi kamezero. im edooo in disguise.
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Posting to show off Icefalcons latest piece of art, my signiture, and anounce that I have joined the Mercenary Guild as Aevanderiell.
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...and that sig is RIGHTEOUS!
Anyways Edoo, it works out something like this:
If we give away preferred customer status, we\'d supposedly get more jobs from preferred customers. More jobs, but for less cash.
We\'d also be just as likely to lose jobs from non-preferred customers who no longer trusted us to be truly neutral. Lost jobs that would have been paid in full.
So you get a few more jobs but you\'re paid less, and you lose the same amount of full-paid jobs. Net result: loss. And it would only go downhill.
We\'re sticking with total neutrality and flat rates. It\'s not our job to be friends with anyone. It\'s our job to do what we\'re paid for.
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What if they pay us to be their friends?
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Originally posted by KameZero
What if they pay us to be their friends?
Then they\'re really, really pathetic..
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Friends for money are not true friends.
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Just stoping by. Man CB taking a while to come out eh? Well ive been spending my time playing FFXI. That game has killed mmorpgs for me almost. Just waiting for CB and EQ2 to come out.
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Just stopped by your site and forums yesterday...
8o
WOW! Especially the forums. I like the side/top image a lot, and also the little sword icons. I like the dark motif too. Congratz to whoever set up your forums!
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*raises hand*
Yes, I think it looks pretty good eh? I have been slowly updating the graphics on the forums ever since I set them up a few months ago. Its still not perfect though...
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Pretty good? It looks amazing! What more would you need to change on your forums?
Your sig is a true work of art too...
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Thank you.
As for the forums, the little house graphic way at the bottom needs to be changed to something more planeshifty. And I\'ve been thinking about changing the right portion on the header to something that suggests The Mercenary Guild. Those are the only major things, the rest are minor... Ill probably wait for CB to get some new screenies before I change it though.
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Well, I am now once more a mercenary. True, I am only a foot soldier but I guess that is the price I pay for being a deserter. Here is a poem :P :
Forge me with fire,
A sword for my smiting.
Fright to my foes,
And flames for my fighting.
Forge me a shield,
Forceful and fierce.
Stalwart and shapely;
To fend against fears.
Strike me a spear
Of speed as a shaft.
Fearless to fly,
As a shot to the start.
Staunch be my front,
Against fury as ailed.
Strong be my soul,
Where the feeble have failed.
It\'s good to be back :D
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Its good to have you back Zephyrus.
So, how did Sep take your leaving IT? :rolleyes:
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Yay! My connection is back.
So... Zeph is back... and now he\'s in a lower hierarchy level than me!
The laws of karma are delicious.
*Kicks Zephyrus *
Double Yay!
;)
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Originally posted by Empanado
So... Zeph is back... and now he\'s in a lower hierarchy level than me!
The laws of karma are delicious.
*Kicks Zephyrus *
Double Yay!
;)
That\'s harsh...
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welcome back empanado :D Yes... I am lower rank than you, but given you are the highest rank its hard to see how I could get higher promotion than you.
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Only if we didn\'t replace the legend rank, which still was almost if not to say impossible to get, you could get a higher rank, but I don\'t think anyone would have wanted you there Zeph.
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Originally posted by Desnonroth
That\'s harsh...
No, actually it\'s not, you see, there\'s a smiley face there.
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Yeah and smileys make everything better. In fact you can kick me to.(brown-nose much?)
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*dances a jig on Zephy\'s head*
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Good to have you back. *tosses him an aspirin and flees*
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No way... almost all the guildmates are present and all anxious to hurt Zeph... ::) That\'s not good.
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*braces himself for more pain* It\'s good to see you again too keung, I hope your spear is still as sharp as the last time we fought together.
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Hey Keung. Where have you been lately?
Oh, BTW, nice sig Zeph... ;)
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Bump
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I would like to announce that two new recruits have joined our ranks, Taosuke, and Rhamous (forum name: Toadhead). Welcome.
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Woo hoo! New members!
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I\'m new to the guild and active ^^ (not officially in guild still in worthy stage)
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Wow, he introduced himself before I could...
Welcome to the guild Razor.
Rhamous has been promoted and has been given full membership. Congratulations.
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May the guild live long.
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speaking of which. are we going to start it up in game? cb is out im back.
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Azlon? Ah, yes, one of our forgotten members that I kicked for being inactive. Well, I\'m sorry, but I have to treat you as a newcommer. Visit our forums, and we can start the initiation process.
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omg what a load of bumping :/
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Originally posted by Randalp
omg what a load of bumping :/
I think that\'s normal... We just have maybe a little too strict policy about returning members.
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Azlon, sounds familiar... You must have left a long time ago...
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Yes. I don\'t remember you being leader. And kicked for inactive? Half the guild was inactive waiting for CB. I came back when CB came out.
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Wow... I am away for like a week and we get how many members? No, seriously, can someone give me a running total?
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Members count: 25
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...and rising. It\'s insane, I\'m so swamped with work...
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Originally posted by Azlon
I\'m back.
Ah, yes, Azlon, I remember you. You\'re the licking guy, right? :)
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Approachs IceFalcon Top notch crew you have put together here, I heard much of yourself Icefalcon..a good man :)
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Thank you, I guess.
Pleased to meet you. *offers hand*
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I\'m considering joining. My question is: how is business right now?
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Well, with guild wars not implemented yet, we don\'t have many major military assignments. But, occasionally, we get requests for... random things.
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Like prostitution???
Sorry
Anyways, I was wondering if you guys had ever completely finalized how you are going to charge for your services; might as well do it now while there is little work for you to do
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We don\'t have any set minimums or maximums for any job, as every job varies in time required, skill needed, recources, etc. And it doesn\'t look like that will change anytime soon.
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I am a member of the Council, but remain inactive because I really don\'t see why I will benefit from this. Could you please sum up in a sentace or two what exactly you plan on doing in practice, in game, that will bring any benefit to its members, or the community for that matter.
This is a quote from you Icefalcon on the URPS thread..
Well, with guild wars not implemented yet, we don\'t have many major military assignments. But, occasionally, we get requests for... random things.
Here is a quote on your thread. Now, I believe this is a fair question, if you have no serious jobs at this time... then what is the point of a Merc Guild? You have seen no benefits in the URPS because not everything is implemented yet, but Merc Guilds seem to have the same problem as of now. It is what lies in the future correct? Think of 9 or 10 guilds that would come to your guild first to give Merc missions. It maybe looking forward quite a bit but I see potential in both.. do you agree?
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Originally posted by Valbrandr
I am a member of the Council, but remain inactive because I really don\'t see why I will benefit from this. Could you please sum up in a sentace or two what exactly you plan on doing in practice, in game, that will bring any benefit to its members, or the community for that matter.
This is a quote from you Icefalcon on the URPS thread..
Well, with guild wars not implemented yet, we don\'t have many major military assignments. But, occasionally, we get requests for... random things.
Here is a quote on your thread. Now, I believe this is a fair question, if you have no serious jobs at this time... then what is the point of a Merc Guild? You have seen no benefits in the URPS because not everything is implemented yet, but Merc Guilds seem to have the same problem as of now. It is what lies in the future correct? Think of 9 or 10 guilds that would come to your guild first to give Merc missions. It maybe looking forward quite a bit but I see potential in both.. do you agree?
Valbrandr, I\'m really surprised to see you, of all people, talking about URPS in someone else\'s thread. And besides, the Mercs do have usage. Emp draws pics. :D
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Originally posted by Valbrandr
Here is a quote on your thread. Now, I believe this is a fair question, if you have no serious jobs at this time... then what is the point of a Merc Guild? You have seen no benefits in the URPS because not everything is implemented yet, but Merc Guilds seem to have the same problem as of now. It is what lies in the future correct? Think of 9 or 10 guilds that would come to your guild first to give Merc missions. It maybe looking forward quite a bit but I see potential in both.. do you agree?
Yes, we look forward for more work in future, however as of now there are still some requests avaible.
Maybe it is just me, but I don\'t see TMG as a source of money for myself, as much as a group of friends and a place to work with.
We (I?) have also made a guild movie not so long ago, so perhaps, it is a good time to publish it. It rests here... (http://www.freewebs.com/exaero/TMGMovie2.rar)
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Sorry, I just had to get my 2 cents in.
Emapanado is an amazing artist, if I were to recommend anybody to hire to make a sig it would be him.
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Valbrandr, there is an obvious different between TMG and URPS. We are Mercenaries. We do what Mercs do.
URPS is an alliance, nothing more. The only benefits I have noticed are...
1) Members receive little discounts on goods from Bloodclaw, which is nice.
2) The guilds get some military help from URPS\'s militia during a guild war, which leads to the obvious question. What happens when two guild who are members of URPS go to war? Does URPS dish out troops evenly between the guilds and watch URPS troops slaughter URPS troops?
Now, I see your point, the game is early in development. URPS offers little benefits, TMG has little work. However, we have a clear goal on what we plan on accomplishing. What is this alliance going to accomplish?
TMG\'s goal can be summed up in this nice little statement.
\"We are here for you to hire.\"
What is URPS\'s goal?
\"We are a group of guilds that \'help each other out?\' \"
Is that the only reason for your existance? I\'m sorry for sounding rude or offensive, but your purpose is very vague.
Now, can we keep this off TMG\'s recruitment thread please? Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss it more.
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I\'d like to remind everyone that we\'re currently accepting new recruits. Prerequisites are to be active both in-game and the forums, and to be a good RolePlayer.
By the way, check our General forums! We\'re showcasing the new sitcom: Mercs!
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... Aaaand we\'re still alive. Not dead yet.
Remember: Joining the Mercenary Guild will make you happy. It will also cure cancer, and achieve world peace.
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Originally posted by Empanado
Remember: Joining the Mercenary Guild will make you happy. It will also cure cancer, and achieve world peace.
... why didn\'t you tell me earlier! The years of agony you could have saved me! :P
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obviously he didn\'t tell you before because he was afraid that you\'d eventually figure out he was spinning the truth, - he knows you\'re perceptive like that.l
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We know you were anxious to see them again, Phinehas... you still had something to finish, didn\'t you? ;)
Wibbles @ Mercenary Guild, I guess.
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... speaking of which... Did you ever finish the color versions of our pics, Emp?