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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Adeli on June 24, 2004, 04:29:00 pm
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did you realise that when CB is released, we will all be \'noobs\'
Who will you slander now?
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Not all will be noobs :rolleyes:
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yeah, the team will play test it and tweak it and maybe later they will have a larger tester team of known members and GM\'s.
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I will never be a noob, ever, in any game. I\'ve proved this by mastering three trees on SWG and getting a full suit of composite armour on the free trial. (Which is like the best you can do in the game) :D So I\'m gonna do similar in CB. :D So hah!
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Originally posted by Adeli
did you realise that when CB is released, we will all be \'noobs\'
You\'re confusing \'newb\' and \'noob\', noob.
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Originally posted by Xordan
I will never be a noob, ever, in any game. I\'ve proved this by mastering three trees on SWG and getting a full suit of composite armour on the free trial. (Which is like the best you can do in the game)
wow congrats!!! you uber gamer. oh btw that can be done in 6 hours
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In order to have n00bs in a game there has to be something to measure against, ie. Exp, level, length of playing. And since PS has nothing at the moment the only way to gauge who is a n00b or not is by how long they have been here. When CB comes out, those people who have been here for a short period of time will still be n00bs and those who have been here for years will still be olbies.
Therefore, Adeli, we will not be n00bs.
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*grins at Xordan*
Finally..^^
Noobs why must you even bring that up! YOU ADELI shall be torn inside out by my sword and left for the scavenger noobs to steal your armor! ^^
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To be classified as a n00b, there must be 3 things...
1) a new player who makes loud, partially intelligible, questioning noises out his rear end in search of as of yet unimplemented features
2) fellow new players who are quite adept in the use of the correct orifice for producing speech who tell them to bugger off
3) experienced players, who use their uber-sword to remove your head (\"Yet it still keeps talking! Well, I think that\'s speech anyway...\" ) and make them feel distinctly n00b-like
So, no, Adeli, we will not be n00bs, but new players. New players can be nice, but n00bs are thoroughly obnoxious. Since you have so insulted me, I, as the self-proclaimed server admin of a nonexistent server, will use my uber sword and disembowl you in the middle of a non-PvP area (don\'t ask, its just my leet p0werz)
josePhoenix
If this post causes any medical conditions, please take up the matter with your cat. Well, you seem to believe the cat is a substitute for both an opthalmologist and psychiatrist!
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Originally posted by koslo
wow congrats!!! you uber gamer. oh btw that can be done in 6 hours
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You\'re saying that mastering artisian, smuggler, and weaponmaker can be done in 6 hours.... that\'s a very n00bish comment indeed, as it\'s impossible, even with the help of macros.
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All this talk of 1337 sword disembowling is quite worrying. Whatever happened to RP? Most likely people are going to go power-crazy and start \"levelling\" like there\'s no tomorrow.
While people like me (?) who want to RP a decent alchemist will be left washed up metaphorically on the shore.
Or will people do as they do now and say, \"\'Tis just another tech demo. We\'ll RP when the full version comes out...\" -_-
Sorry, but this release scares me.
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Oh, but ub3r sword disembowelling is rp\'ing, as we\'re rp\'ing bloodthirsty fighters. Every fighter in rl loved to go on a boar hunt. :) If you rp an alchemist, then you\'re still \'levelling\' except you\'re doing it without the bloodspilling. I\'ll probably be an alchemist as well, as I enjoy making potions in my lab, and selling them in a little corner stall as much as I enjoy blasting monsters. :) Without the fighters, you\'ll be out of a job ;)
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Hah, plz.
There\'s more to PS than pointless levelling. What about the plots? The intrigue? All the bickering in the guilds forum will have to go ingame now, hopefully :D
And I don\'t mean by launching a new guildwar every two minutes. I mean the intrigue being RPed.
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lol, the plots can only hold upto so many people. In most RPG\'s only a small fraction of people follow plots. These are your true \'heros\' and \'villians\'. Everyone else are the general ignorant public peasants :D
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An \"ignorant, public\" peasant can be very fun to RP actually. My thoughs go to the witch-burner crowd from Monthy Pythons \"The quest for the holy grail\".
\"We\'ve found a witch, may we burn her?\"
(http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/grail/inlines/05_vllgr.jpg)
One of the best things with MMORPGs is that you can play as a commoner for a change. Live out your dreams with a sword, or a fishing-rod, It doesn\'t matter. The important thing is that you\'re having fun while doing it.
I\'m sure we will see a lot of RP in CB. Just take a look at the forums for example. Many players and guilds already focus on roleplay, and I think that\'s great. This game will be very RP-friendly, so I don\'t think you\'ll have to worry too much about that Karakth. :)
And also...
The best way to make people RP, is to RP. 8)
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Originally posted by Xordan
lol, the plots can only hold upto so many people. In most RPG\'s only a small fraction of people follow plots. These are your true \'heros\' and \'villians\'. Everyone else are the general ignorant public peasants :D
If this crowd of ignorant peasants didn\'t exist, there would be no heroes nor villains. There would simply be people fighting against eachother for some useless cause. That\'s where other MMORPGs fail. They want everyone to be the hero or the bad guy, and do not think about who is going to make them be the hero or the bad guy. Getting honored by NPCs isn\'t as fun as if real people look up to you as someone cool and heroic. :)
Oh, and to correct Adeli who, so cleverly wrote;
\"did you realise that when CB is released, we will all be \'noobs\'
Who will you slander now?\"
You\'re wrong. You are still the n00b for standing up like you did and saying \"Haha. I am a n00b, but since you haven\'t played the game either you probably are n00bs too, so I can say \'Haha, you can\'t call me n00b for you are n00b too\'.\"
So let me ask you a simple question. Who\'s the bigger idiot? The idiot, or the idiot who calls everyone else idiots? :)
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Originally posted by karakth
All this talk of 1337 sword disembowling is quite worrying. Whatever happened to RP? Most likely people are going to go power-crazy and start \"levelling\" like there\'s no tomorrow.
While people like me (?) who want to RP a decent alchemist will be left washed up metaphorically on the shore.
Or will people do as they do now and say, \"\'Tis just another tech demo. We\'ll RP when the full version comes out...\" -_-
Sorry, but this release scares me.
I\'m worried about this too (why I would have liked to have seen combat added at a later date).
My hope is that they make the weapons they DO add fairly primative and no particle effects =P. That way it can be roleplayed as a village/city that is still starting out. Afterall, who wouldn\'t want to make weapons out of whatever(no dung-flingers please) they can to defend themselves in a brand new colony (did you leave your brand new colonies in \"civilization\" completely undefended?).
/ramble off
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When I picture CB I get this wonderful cutseen of a rising sun over a city and the sun glinting of the shore. A mighly castle unaposed standing magesticly. On topic aww I wanted to be a 1337 |-|4}{0R cause they R|_|1ZE.
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Originally posted by Watcher
1337 |-|4}{0R cause they R|_|1ZE.
Too late, space taken. And you\'ll have to fight me for it ;)
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I don\'t know what everyone\'s worrying about. Compared to me you\'re all n00bs anyway.
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Aye, we\'re not all trained in the elvish arts of the ghay ;)
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Well it takes many years of intense training. It\'s not for the light of heart only us uber-elves.
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There never was such a thing as n00bs in molecular blue...
uhh... learn you can\'t open doors, crouch, how to get out of the dungeon, and that combat doesn\'t exist
BAM your not a n00b anymore.
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Originally posted by AendarCallenlasse
I don\'t know what everyone\'s worrying about. Compared to me you\'re all n00bs anyway.
Haha....remember me? The in-game dissing session we had? nvm I\'ll still own you. GG
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Indeed, everyone will have no experience at first. So all the guild leaders are just as undeveloped as their lowest members. So everyone revolt.
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Good thing my guild has no members ^_^
josePhoenix
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yeesh, this is redunkulous...
if you\'ve been on less than five months, you are, at the very least a newbie.
if you make idiotic posts like this thread, you are at the very most a n00b.
get over it.
oh, and by the way xordan, that was pretty good. even with someone giving me the resources to grind my artisan, it took me 12 hours to make 4s, and even yet, I can\'t find enough people to teach to get the app to master. right now I have artisan 4/4/4/4 scout 4/0/4/1 marksman 0/3/0/1 and novice CH
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Tygerwilde: Yeah, I was lucky with resources, as I bought lots dirt cheap, and I got quite a bit of help from my friends getting pistol and unarmed XP.
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I used to frequent the old boards, pre release. I had something like 2k posts there. I got on with several of my friends from there, they\'re mostly all in one guild. they hooked me up with buffs to crank my surveying, and jallion gave me something like 300k in various resources
heh, when my CH gets high enough, jallion also gave me a lvl 30 armordillo, that\'s one bad critter.
It\'s a really good game, I had to get it when I heard there\'s a set date for the space expansion. my character is gonna be a shipwrite.
dude, when a person has six months under their belt after the space expansion comes out, they\'re giving out a luxury ship... modeled after the lady luck...
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Must resist temptation to get star wars must resist... *Runs of to get it looks in walet relises he has no cash. Stops running.
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lol, yeah, that\'s the reason I got it. The space expansion will be great. I\'m a kick ass (and modest;)) pilot, so I\'m looking forward to flying about blasting people from the sky. :) I\'m hoping that this will be the main type of transport to other planets as well, and they\'ll either get rid of, or make it more expensive to go on a transport shuttle. I don\'t like the shuttles now as it is, I\'d much prefer for people to have to walk everywhere, or get a vehicle.
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-=coughs=-
Get back OT n00bs.
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Bite me
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No way am I going to bite you. Its unsanitary.
AendarCallenlasse: Was there ever a topic? XD
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K we all know what the most anticipated event of CB is....When Xordan kills that annoying, Arrogant, fruity, self rightous Elf-Aendar
*offers his hand in friendship to Aendar* hehe
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*cough*daisyeatinelvesmustdie*cough*
anyway, who cares about n00bs, they\'re annoying, so what. I\'m gonna be a righteous shipwrite/rebel pilot
I have lived my life for this. years and years of training on X-wing/tiefighter. my favorite is the b-wing, with the ion cannons, and the single wing jutting out in one direction, with dual, top and bottom s-foils, it\'s wicked.
*drools over the idea of flying a b-wing fighter*
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Whooo... That series of comments just sailed over my head and made a \"thunk\" type sound in the wall....
josePhoenix
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Bah, death to ye you Rebel!!!
I can\'t wait to get my hands on a nice imperial ship. I don\'t care which one, as long it has a ton of guns, good armour, and a giant thruster stuck on the back. :D
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-=bites Xordan.=-
I\'m looking forward to the Xordan/Aendar duel as well.
But you must remember he\'s Cabali and they never play fair. But I\'m still game.
Wasn\'t someone selling tickets to it....I think we should get a cut of the money...
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Speaking of combat... at this point, is the damage inflicted completely random or do they have it so it factors certain statistics?
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Now there wouldn\'t be much point if there were no rules governing combat.Have you no idea what goes on \"under the hood\"? I guess not, oh well. Well, suffice it to say that that is what stats are for.. ^.^
In the meantime, fear my \"Newbie Starter Wooden Sword\" which randomly inflicts 2 bajillion damage!
josePhoenix
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*Bites josePhoenix, dealing 2 bajillion damage. Watches josePhoenix enter the Death Realm. Waits 20 seconds. Sees him come back, still acting dead. Tells josePhoenix he\'ll be ok, and to wait until Venge fixes the cal3d bug. Cleans mouth out*... eheheh
the question is: Have you no idea what goes on \"under the hood\"?
guess not... if you were \"under the hood,\" you would know that... *pulls up random CVS news*... PalJr has been fixed so that the previous DR packet is stored... yessss... right
Really though. When I compiled the CVS, the combat was quite boring. Perhaps it was the fact that the model was really just a colored box with numbers on it. Perhaps it was the fact that the only way I knew I was being hurt was to read the text \"you have been hit! x damage was inflicted.\" Perhaps, it was the fact that I was attacking an NPC who was also a colored box (doesn\'t get much worse than that xD). I noticed that all my damage was 10. And it did seem quite random. I had the upperhand until I started jumping around to try and climb on top of the blacksmith\'s (ahh, it will be a different world with fall damage).
*steals josePhoenix\'s n00b sword. runs away*
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*grabs l337 sword from nearby stall and duels with icebr4kr*
Btw icebr4kr how did you get on the blacksmith if there where no moddels? Did you climb on thin air :P Cause I heard no art in the uncompiled CB
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**I just had a weird sense of deja vu...**
There is just enough art to keep it running... So, yes there is a blacksmith model.. and some colored cubes that icebr4kr saw... but not much else. If there was no art at all it wouldn\'t run!
icebr4kr: Ehm... Well, chances are that it won\'t be quite as random and boring when you have the real art and combat mechanics have been fine tuned... I also heard that the RPG rules are under the planeshift liscense, so maybe they have dummy rules in CVS? o.O Oh, well... Maybe its just not all its cracked up to be ;)
Gimme Back that n00b sword! I need it to battle fluffy bunnies! I would bite your hand but I don\'t know where its been O.O
josePhoenix
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I just fear getting behind other players who are constantly leveling. I don\'t want to waste my life bashing in heads of virtual monsters, but I don\'t want to be killed by passing peasants...
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Well, you won\'t get killed by passing pesants, unless you both agree that one of you will die. The pesant must ask nicely for PvP (and say please!) and you must agree... Although If a guild elder is only half as strong as some lunatic layer that never contributes much of anything yet levels constantly... And this lunatic challenges him for leadership of the guild, he has to agree to the fight so he won\'t look cowardly, etc, etc.
Oh well.. I gues maybe even two universes might not be enough :P
josePhoenix
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sorry to revive the thread...
i\'d been absent for a while, and honestly forgotten about it, this is the biggest load of off topic.. err.. caviar.. that I have ever seen.
First, I apologise, I did not make myself clear...
I was not referring to \'noob\' as planeshifters have adapted it, the questions etc.. I was merely using the term as it was used in many, many online games.
You may not have noticed, but older games \'elites\' think they are superior because they spend more time online (possible reason for this misconception). These users, call people who are newer and not as skillful, \'noobs\'. Have you played any game other than PS?
Everywhere, the experienced mock the less-experienced.. my point was merely that we will all be inexperienced, I did not mean to imply we will all be ignorant, and obnoxious... though lets face it.. many people will be obnoxious, it\'s human nature.
Aendar... thankyou, for being the only person attempting to stay mostly ON TOPIC. One guy was telling us of his dreams to fly a B-Wing?? wrong game methinks.
So once more, I apologise for the misinterpretation.
[edit] due to frequent pains in the chest, my mind is drawn once more to my heart as opposed to my computer, so I shall take my leave.
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Heh, I think we have a different definition of \'noob\' here at planeshift. You\'re ok as long as you don\'t ask the same question twice or refuse to read up the faq when informed of it\'s existance.
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Examples: Failure to notice guilds forum before advertising on the boards- noob
Posting about new guild with basic, readible information-newb
Asking why you shouldn\'t cheat-noob
Asking where to find rubies, then thanking-newb
et cetera
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What does it matter??? Just play the damn game!! Besides, I think you\'re confusing newb with noob??? WTF?!?!?! they are the same damn thing! Sides noobs (and newbs to those who think they newbs are different) are immune to flaming!
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Definitions
Newb- New player, has yet to learn the game
Noob/N00b- New player, griever, obnaxious moron
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We will all have new characters. Yes, that is true.
We will all have no clue where the monsters are. Yes, that is true.
We will all be annoying and call eachothers n00bs. No, that is not true.
By those three facts we can state that we will all be new to the game (newbies), not n00bs. And this thread is better off closed, otherwise people will just have another reason to get all excited and flamy.