PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: druke on July 13, 2004, 02:44:46 am
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well as has been seen from the #planeshift@quakenet.org channel, certain ops are leading a tyranical channel to the pits of hell.
so we are trying to get everyone to route to #planeshift-guilds and make it the new general channel
ps. Axy, and tepsu are banned there
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Great. Too bad I can\'t go there, stupid quakenet.
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irc.undermind.net
#planeshift
irc.quakenet.org
#planeshift
irc.quakenet.org
#planeshift-guilds
make up your #%@#!@$! minds
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Down with powertrippers! :) Long live fun, freedom and... *thinks* fun!
Make #planeshift-guilds your new channel of choice!
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Wait wait wait, I thought we had declared freenode as the official chat-n-hang-out channel? Oh well... I guess I\'ll go visit a few networks and register a few #PlaneShift rooms for when the need arises.
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Hi Grono, thx for creating #planeshift-guilds it has now proven to have been prudent :) . But for pitty\'s sake let\'s not confuse the issue and create even more 8o bad enough we have to take this action as it is ....
Anyway ppl, due to mismanagement and power-abuse on irc channel #planeshift @ quakenet it has been necessary to rectify matters by moving the official Planeshift fan channel to:
#planeshift-guilds @ quakenet
Hope to see you all there!
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this was taken shortly before illy and druke decided enough was enough...
(http://www.myimgs.com/data/seperot/ao coruption.jpg)
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Er ... yeah, another one. :]
How you people manage to get along within the borders of your own guild is beyond me. ;)
Look what you\'re doing to my IRC client!! :rolleyes: :P
(http://www.pogopuschel.com/misc/psmania.gif)
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i thought you ignored me on irc #planeshift @ Qnet, seppie?
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Hahahahaa serves you right Tepsu! I\'m performing that channel!
p.s. Tepsu banned me for \'spamming parasites script\', which parasite actually did himself. When I told him so, no reply, and no unban. X( That is my definition of a non-fair operator.
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h00ray for this new channel :D
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HAHA! in your face Tepsu and Axsyrus, btw Axsy your title on the cabal forum suits you :)
Thanks to all who made the new channel and put an end to the tyrany that was Axsyrus and Tepsu, I got banned twice on my first day (once by each of them) for pretty much no reason...well tepsu had a small reason, not enough to ban tho ;)
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
planeshift-guilds is teh Suxxx00rrrz!!!
Am I like the only person not to ever get banned/kicked/whatever on #planeshift?
:P
And does this mean you people will finally stop spamming the dev channel in freenode? :D
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Originally posted by Xordan
Am I like the only person not to ever get banned/kicked/whatever on #planeshift?
Not quite well I got banned but the reason was because I wa s in #planeshift-guilds but now I have been unbanned :D
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Well, I don\'t see much of a problem, but maybe that\'s because I really don\'t care and would kick/ban people who whined too...but if your going to make a new channel, get a real name...I for one would never join a channel titled planeshift-guilds, in fact, I\'d think anyone who did were extremely odd people.
I\'ve never been banned or anything from #planeshift, those 3 or 4 times I went there. 8o
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The dev channel on freenode is much nicer, but its not for you fans. Only us geeks exchanging witty banter whilst the devs work hard coding/testing :D.
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I agree, it\'s called the public developer channel for a reason.
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[rant]Ignore, it probably doesn\'t interest anyone in the slightest, just blowing off some steam. :)
In the past I have always personally prefered the developer channel to chat and generally hang out.
My reasons for this is quite simple really. The \"fan channel\" in Quakenet has a very large number of visitors every day. Half of these (or near enough half) would consist of people who I don\'t know, who are just visiting, or who are simply put: too darn serious about things.
I have nothing against people like Grakrim or Draklar who have a much more stern, \'upright\' behavour, as I can be like this myself sometimes also. But at least with Draklar, he knows when to let his hair down. He knows how to have fun. :) I think everyone needs to be able to do this sometimes, otherwise they\'re just plain boring.
But what about a more serious case... what about Axsyrus? I\'m afraid I have never, not on any single occasion, seen Axsyrus with a sense of humour. He can be nice. He can be civil. Helpful. Polite. But by Aliathi I have never seen that guy have fun. It saddens me that he seems to never break his boundaries... he never steps out of line... rules to him are like a cage and he doesn\'t even try to break out sometimes. Axsyrus is a hampster.
:P
So, combining those two things, you have a place where I just really wouldn\'t ever want to go.
And I have another reason now. If I were to join the channel again, I would be banned by Axsyrus. Why? ...you really want to know?
Because I joined the channel and then left. Twice by accident. Apparently this is bannable behavour.
One thing I can\'t really say much about is Tepsu, because I hardly know him. But at least with Axsyrus, well... is there anyone who can honestly say, in light of these truths, they want this fubar to continue to have any kind of power? :P
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Bad Moogs! Be more mature!
*tugs leash*
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Haha, Moogie rules,,uh this isn\'t a pointless post btw, so no deleting it :P
I agree with you Axsyrus is a hampster hehe an ugly, stupid...hehe :D
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Originally posted by Mogura
I have nothing against people like Grakrim or Draklar who have a much more stern, \'upright\' behavour, as I can be like this myself sometimes also. But at least with Draklar, he knows when to let his hair down. He knows how to have fun. :) I think everyone needs to be able to do this sometimes, otherwise they\'re just plain boring.
Wow, I\'m serious? Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I\'ve always considered myself a bit too silly and funloving, but hey, I suppose you know me best, right? ... Mustn\'t forget the emoticon :P
But what about a more serious case... what about Axsyrus? I\'m afraid I have never, not on any single occasion, seen Axsyrus with a sense of humour. He can be nice. He can be civil. Helpful. Polite. But by Aliathi I have never seen that guy have fun.
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But at least with Axsyrus, well... is there anyone who can honestly say, in light of these truths, they want this fubar to continue to have any kind of power? :P
Axsyrus is the best OP I could ask for, personally. He keeps order in the channel, while not being so restrictive as to prevent any OT chat from occuring; in the ideal ratio for such a fan channel, as well. As far as Axsyrus having no sense of humor, that\'s the most blatently false thing I\'ve ever heard. Furthermore, you\'re in no posistion to make such a claim, considering you have never spent more than a few hours in #planeshift on QuakeNet as far as I can recall (or as far as I can find greping my logs, none).
Personally, can anyone with eyes unclouded truthfully say they want Seperot to have any kind of power? Sure, he\'s a good friend of mine. But not the sort of friend that I would entrust much more than a ham sandwich to...
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I wouldn\'t want to see Sep as an op there either. In all honesty, I wouldn\'t say \"oh yeah he\'d be great\" just because he\'s my bf. :P
Anyways, my opinions on Ax are from the dev channel mostly, and copypastes/remote assistance viewing of the fan channel. My opinion of you is based on the few times we\'ve met. You were by far the clearest example I could think of though... maybe I just met you on a bad day every time...?
But ya, it was a rant like I said. :P
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If Grakrim and Axsyrus were so serious, how the hell would they stand one second of me? Seriously Mogura, have you ever tried talking to them? I couldn\'t even think of a reply for a long while because it just made no sense, at all.
Come to think of it since this was brought up, I have never once seen you have fun, only mentioning it, that must make you serious as well...right?
Anyways, have fun in your channel...I don\'t see why it\'s worthy of such a commotion. The post could have worked without attacking Axsyrus as an op.
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Mogura: Your opinion of Axsyrus is biased. You\'ve seen him in the Dev channel, where he berated you about \"witty banter\" when the channel is supposed to be for the development of PS. If you haven\'t got anything un-codelike to say, don\'t. Also, the copy and pastes would probably have been people trying to make fun of him, certainly biased again.
Axsy was my mentor as I entered the AO and I can honestly say that yes, he does have a sense of humor. He just chooses not to express it in the Dev channel, which, let\'s face it, is against the rules.
And that\'s another thing. It sort of worries me to hear a Moderator saying that stepping out of line is such an attractive trait in a person.
Also, some people tend to have an \"upright\" behaviour when they meet someone new. As you get to know them more, they begin to loosen up.
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Actually, my opinion of Axsyrus (based solely on the dev channel) is that he is very mature and makes on-topic comments. Maybe it is just the context (him being in charge?) that makes him act in ways you describe, I can\'t be sure as I don\'t frequent the QuakeNet channel.
The dev channel is moderated well the times I\'m in it. The topic always relates to development (even non-technical aspects at times). The \"witty banter\" is not people disrupting the channel, it\'s the devs joking in between coding/testing (they are quite adept at this). Sorry, but a sense of humor is certainly permitted in the dev channel (if it is not disruptive to a conversation).
Banning for joining/leaving twice by accident is not right, though.
Mogura: You definitely went too far. There is no need to call people names, we are not in pre-school. Screw the rant, whats the point in posting it? Being a moderator (that deletes flames), that makes you look like a hypocrite. Release your anger in another way. And if you want to hang-out on the dev channel, do so. Theres no need to attack others.
Is it really necessary to divide our community like this? The name of the channel doesn\'t tell me \"fan channel\" either. If there were specific inappropriate behaviors, do report them. Don\'t report a generalization without concrete evidence. And do not attack the person as it only makes yourself look bad.
That is all.
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Axsy would have banned Moogie for joining and leaving the fan channel because it was clear that she didn\'t want to be there. And from what I gather, she still doesn\'t want to be there. If he banned her, he would have saved her the bother of leaving, no? ;)
I would like to make a suggestion. In #paneshift, perhaps it would be best if only people who are Devs or not in a guild have the rights to be Ops. A lot of people feel that this might cause unfair bias. This is a Dev decision and probably one which would mean time off CB. So probably this would have to happen aftger CB is released, as the Devs will see having to de-op and whatnot as a waste of time.
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My opinions are highly biased, I know. Axsyrus used to be a friend, I\'ve even still got his contact on MSN. Maybe that\'s why he riles me so much these days.
It is clear, however, that the rant was uncalled for and uneeded. It could\'ve been worded with alot more maturity. It was rather long at first, talking more about the size of the fan chan to begin with, so perhaps removing that made the rest of the post seem harsher and unfair.
Therefore I apologise to Axsyrus and Grakrim for their mentions in the rant and to anyone else who feels offended by it. It\'s not often I feel the need to \"attack\" people, and even then, it is more out of a feeling of sadness than hate. That the situation has come to this saddens me.
I\'m sorry.
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Don\'t think any more really needs to be said. Maybe locking would be a good idea?
And:
Axsyrus is teh 1337! ;)
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Originally posted by Mogura
My opinions are highly biased, I know. Axsyrus used to be a friend, I\'ve even still got his contact on MSN. Maybe that\'s why he riles me so much these days.
It is clear, however, that the rant was uncalled for and uneeded. It could\'ve been worded with alot more maturity. It was rather long at first, talking more about the size of the fan chan to begin with, so perhaps removing that made the rest of the post seem harsher and unfair.
Therefore I apologise to Axsyrus and Grakrim for their mentions in the rant and to anyone else who feels offended by it. It\'s not often I feel the need to \"attack\" people, and even then, it is more out of a feeling of sadness than hate. That the situation has come to this saddens me.
I\'m sorry.
So you\'re sad that you\'re sad? :P
By the by, We Used To Be Friends is a good song by the Dandy Warhols.
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Originally posted by Xordan
Don\'t think any more really needs to be said. Maybe locking would be a good idea?
Yah maybe it is time to end this bickering, normal threads like this would have been closed before a second post, but since important community people are so k33n to speak out it lasted longer :P
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Originally posted by DepthBlade
Yah maybe it is time to end this bickering, normal threads like this would have been closed before a second post, but since important community people are so k33n to speak out it lasted longer :P
Or, more specifically, our only active mod was k33n to speak out.
This thread will die, like any other. It\'s not like there\'s anything particularly interesting to be said.
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I go away for a few weeks, and what do I find?
Axsyrus and Tepsu on powertrips and the community in rage, yet again. Seeing as how I am the coolest and best player around, I feel obligated to give you my view of things.
I have never seen Tepsu or Axsyrus kick/ban/warn anyone that didn\'t have it coming.
One thing I can\'t really say much about is Tepsu, because I hardly know him. But at least with Axsyrus, well... is there anyone who can honestly say, in light of these truths, they want this fubar to continue to have any kind of power?
Alot of people said this about you Mogura, yet you have become a pretty good mod. Give it some time imo, and yes, I know that they have been mods for quite some time. Give it some more time, all the time it takes.
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Tepsu have banned ALOT of people that didnt have it coming and Axsyrus does it sometimes to be one of the guys ;)
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Originally posted by Altharion
Tepsu have banned ALOT of people that didnt have it coming and Axsyrus does it sometimes to be one of the guys ;)
Depends on how you look at it, you and me have different views of \"having it coming\".
On a second note, did you notice how my post killed the thread? Like, woah.
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Hmm, I got kicked for speaking Tepsu\'s name...would that be \'having it coming\'? :P
And I got banned TWICE on my first day, Axis had no reason to ban me...Tepsu did but he had it coming :D
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Originally posted by Waylander
Hmm, I got kicked for speaking Tepsu\'s name...would that be \'having it coming\'? :P
Yes.
As I already said in some other thread (maybe in the bbb), you guys should realise that many people got alerts to their names. When you say their name, there\'s a sound, or some message pops up, and it can be really annoying if someone says your name just like that without any reason.
Doing it for no reason counts as \'harassment\', and with a short email describing what you did to the abuse mail of your ISP (should take about 5 mins), you can get your internet connection taken away from you.
All you guys that get kicked \\ banned by Tepsu for saying his nick just to annoy, or without any normal reason (asking for a +o isn\'t a valid reason...) should thank him for taking such methods instead of reporting you for abuse of your ISP\'s TOS.
So now when I think about it, no. When someone gets kicked or banned by Tepsu for saying his name he didn\'t \'had it coming\'. If Tepsu reports the person for abuse he had it coming :P
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Bah, I didn\'t say his whole nick, I think somebody else might have been doing it and so by just saying Tepsu (not tepsu (forgot the rest)) he kicked me because he felt like it. Oh and then I think I finaly got banned because I put my name as RedishMonkey (RedMonk was annoying Tepsu) oh and then... hehe :)
Anyways, Tepsu did have some reason to kick/ban me but Axsy didn\'t. At all, I went to check !info on somebody and he said something along the lines of okay be quiet now and muted me.
Anyways these are pointless details, the two seem to be a lot cooler now. I find that tho ps guilds has less people those people seem to be chatting more.