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Title: Dungeons and Dragons
Post by: Zackery on July 19, 2004, 03:39:11 am
I just recently played dungeons and dragons with my sister and i was wondering if ne1 else played here.


          P.S. I love D&D
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Post by: Peeeevs on July 19, 2004, 05:10:49 am
ah.. pen and paper. yes i have played it .. like 2 or 3 years ago...
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Post by: Ald'Amun Dungeonrunner on July 19, 2004, 05:56:06 am
Aww yeah...I\'ve played. Used to play quite a bit...too many stupid rules for me, though...can\'t *possibly* block a ranged attack with a buckler? Can\'t *possibly* jump higher than your height, no matter how many ranks you have in jump...Way too turn-based...Still the best game ever made because of the complete freedom /= The thing that\'s great is, if you want to do something you logically could, do it...Kill a giant beetle? Want a tank? hmmm....you see where I\'m going...but anywho...go here for some typical d&d craziness I found on the web...sounds like my d&d sessions -_-

http://www.geocities.com/whoisceres2/dndquotes.html

(My favorite)
\"Son of a caltrop! My brain!\"
-- Ceres (DM)
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A few months before this quote, Erich was so stunned by how stupid one of the PCs was being that he let his head fall to hit his PHB, not noticing the d20 that was right where his forhead landed. I outdid him. I did basically the same thing, except I did it with the d4. Very painful, but I didn\'t bleed and there\'s no scar. Yay!

Those friggin things hurt!
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Post by: Cyrandir on July 19, 2004, 09:57:28 am
I still play AD&D.  I played all weekend actually.  I usually DM, mostly because I like it and because none of my friends want to.  All I have to say is 2nd ed. is way better than 3 or 3.5.
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Post by: Orikhra on July 19, 2004, 12:54:00 pm
Ive played it once or twice but i prefered palladium and rifts (i think it was called rifts) which is practically the same thing as D&D. All round good fun though.
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Post by: Zackery on July 19, 2004, 06:21:39 pm
The DM that I had said i cut off two goblin heads with one slice of my great sword
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Post by: Zephyrus on July 19, 2004, 06:41:36 pm
I used to play D&D but it fell by the wayside to the TRUE ULTIMATE pen and paper RPG - EVERWAY... pwned 8)
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Post by: John_Thazer on July 19, 2004, 08:07:35 pm
Great fun i love it :P
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Post by: Zackery on July 19, 2004, 08:47:12 pm
Is it bad for wizards to have armor?  Cus my sister says it isn\'t good I think she is right tho.
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Post by: Zephyrus on July 19, 2004, 08:49:55 pm
if you actually bothered to read the player manual :P you would see magic users cant cast spells whilst wearing armour
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Post by: Ald'Amun Dungeonrunner on July 19, 2004, 10:46:20 pm
I think he plays 3rd ed, which would mean that, depending on the type of armor, wizards, sorcerers, and bards get a percentage chance of their spells failing, as long as the spell has somatic components...
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Post by: Zephyrus on July 19, 2004, 11:18:44 pm
damn 3rd edition, I only played first and second edition, I still have the boxed 1st edition set. Anyway now i am an Everway man
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Post by: Zackery on July 19, 2004, 11:28:12 pm
I just found out wizards can\'t wear armor.  Okay, I didn\'t read about wizards in the rule book cuz my char is a fighter.
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Post by: DepthBlade on July 19, 2004, 11:48:27 pm
Used to then I moved to Hunter the Reckoning a more modern table top! Then the group I played with moved away or stopped playing and there wasnt enough of us to continue on!
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Post by: Zackery on July 20, 2004, 12:20:43 am
Is there any software that ppl play online for D&D
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Post by: FESFES on July 20, 2004, 01:48:16 am
iv never played or even seen somone play D&D how does the game work? is it like a rpg on a board but you write down all you stats and stuff?
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Post by: Zackery on July 20, 2004, 02:08:32 am
Well it\'s real realistic cuz if you yell while waiting for the door to fall the monsters behind it will attack.
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Post by: Ghostslayer on July 20, 2004, 06:45:28 am
Yup, I play D&D everyonce in a while.  Not currently in a campaign for D&D, but I\'ve been playing some D20 Modern on forums which is pretty cool, as well as a live game of  Mutants & Masterminds (superhero setting) which I also enjoy.

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Originally Posted by Cyrandir
All I have to say is 2nd ed. is way better than 3 or 3.5.


While I haven\'t played 2nd Ed (started on 3rd), I\'ve heard the reverse with every GM i\'ve played under ;)
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Post by: Boldstorm on July 20, 2004, 06:47:43 pm
D&D :D
I actually started playing almost 20 years ago and still have all of my 1st edition books and boxes for D&D and AD&D. (Have a few original AD&D books first print still in real good shape too)
Stopped playing about 5 years ago when we created our own version of D&D and programmed it all into VB. We\'ve been running the same campaign now non stop for that whole time but unfortunatley we hardly ever play. When your whole group gets married or moves out of town it\'s hard to get the game sessions together.
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Post by: tygerwilde on July 20, 2004, 07:34:05 pm
ald, you must have had a terrible DM. you see, a dm sets the scene, yes, a shield is automatically figured into your AC. also, the DM has the option of giving you a reflex throw to catch the arrow in the shield. but a good DM would give you the situation in combat, say an attack misses you but just barely, the DM could have said that you catch the arrow in your shield, enough arrows caught that way might slow you down a bit. removing the arrow could take you a move equivelant action, in which time you lose the ac from your shield, which presses you to keep up the attack, even though you\'re taking more arrows.

see ald, even with the rules, the DM is what makes the game. however, there\'s another secret, the DM has the power to take the rules, and throw them out the window.  The DM uses the rules to his own discretion, it even says so right in the DMG
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Post by: FlippySeal on July 20, 2004, 09:41:41 pm
Never played any Pen and Paper games?? Got instructions??
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Post by: Ald'Amun Dungeonrunner on July 20, 2004, 10:23:01 pm
They are a bit complicated...that\'s why there are dozens of manuals for each game...It\'s not like I could really post instructions on a forum...But basically, you set up a group of people, you really need at least 5: 4 players and one GM/DM, the person who creates the world and designates what the npcs do. You make your characters based upon the rules the dm gives, and you go through whatever storyline the dm makes. You gain levels in your class and advance in skills...This is all really vague because there are a lot of different playing styles and rule sets. Some players act out what they do, while others just tell. Some people play more of a straightfoward game going stricly by the rules. Others prefer to play their characters as realistically as they can...It\'s all just about the dm mostly. Dm makes the game. D&D is the worst game ever made if you have a poor dm, best ever if you have a good one...I still have a problem with many of the rules, however...
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Post by: rifft on July 21, 2004, 03:54:11 am
DnD is brokent. 3 and 3.5 are anyway. Stupid magic! Too much!

Anywho, yeah I play I like to play it\'s great fun. Thinking of playing Vampires the Masquerade, or a Modified version of Shadow run.

Anyway, I haven\'t had time lately to play...
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Post by: noruto on July 23, 2004, 03:03:51 am
i play never winter nights made from D&D and i have the board game Mahahahahahahhahahahhaha
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Post by: FESFES on July 23, 2004, 05:35:47 am
wait so theres no board or nething! all you do is........WRITE hmmm sonds like English  i wanna try it but i dont wanna waist 381870 hours of my life trying to learn the rules
EDIT or is there a board and non-board ver
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Post by: Ghostslayer on July 23, 2004, 05:42:32 am
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Originally posted by FESFES
wait so theres no board or nething! all you do is........WRITE hmmm sonds like English  i wanna try it but i dont wanna waist 381870 hours of my life trying to learn the rules
EDIT or is there a board and non-board ver


Well you can use a board or chart paper etc. if you want to keep track of your characters positions and such, but its not necessary.  But no, you do not write all the time, all that you write down is your character sheet which keeps track of your stats, hit points, inventory, skills, etc.
You declare your action to the game master, and if there is some sort of action or skill involved you roll appropriate dice (then add/subtract any bonuses you have to that skill) to determine if you succeed, how much damage you do, etc.

Basically it in a nutshell, I\'d have to explain some rules to get more indepth ;).  It doesnt take that long to learn the rules either, especially if you have someone experienced as the game master. :)
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Post by: NewPie on July 24, 2004, 09:06:26 pm
D&D.. Whew. That\'s one sucky p&p.

Play Runequest, Rolemaster, Cyberpunk or Vampire/Werewolf/other that kind of more advanced stuff instead.

D&D is collection of stupidity. Book doesn\'t have to have charts about everything. DM decides most of the thing after all. D&D is so full of useless monsters and stupid rules that it is basically uselss p&p.
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Post by: NewPie on July 24, 2004, 09:08:57 pm
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Anywho, yeah I play I like to play it\'s great fun. Thinking of playing Vampires the Masquerade, or a Modified version of Shadow run.


Shadowrun is good too *nodnod*
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Post by: FESFES on July 25, 2004, 07:37:01 am
D&D doesnt seem like the type of game i would like im not into text stuff too much and i would get to lazy to keep writing #s down
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Post by: tygerwilde on July 25, 2004, 03:37:06 pm
why does everyone confuse textbase with pen and paper...

there\'s not that much writing involved in it. yes you have to have numbers, but rules are only to keep it from being like kids games... anyone remember cowboys and indians or spaceman...

\"I shot you, you\'re dead\" \"no I\'m not, you missed!\"

rules give you the ability to prove whether you were shot or missed in said situation. you roll the dice to see if your attack was high enough to hit the other person. with a good DM, the only time you have to even look in the book is when you level up your character. depending on the situation of the game, that might be three or four game sessions apart
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Post by: NewPie on July 25, 2004, 03:54:55 pm
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\"I shot you, you\'re dead\" \"no I\'m not, you missed!\"

rules give you the ability to prove whether you were shot or missed in said situation. you roll the dice to see if your attack was high enough to hit the other person.


But when you have too much rules it becomes pretty stiff. Runequest is a good example about RPG with just the right amount of rules. Player and DM never have to switch pages to see if some modifiers apply. In RQ DM is the one who decides mostly. Only weakness in RQ can be DM in my opinion.

My friend was looking pretty strange when he tried to memorize something like 30 charts from D&D book. Then he just threw the book away and started playing Rune because it is so DM based.

Most of D&D rules are stupid too. You have to choose feat to get ambidexterity? Yeah right. You have solid classes? Stupid.. You generate your character to match your own plans.. err.. You have levels .. Whoa .. instant knowledge about things.
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Post by: tygerwilde on July 25, 2004, 04:29:29 pm
Here\'s an arguement I hear way too often. There are too many rules. I say better too many than too few. Have you ever played in a group that won\'t accept that DM is GOD??? it\'s not a pretty sight. the entire group ends up unhappy. The players argue that they automatically have all kinds of abilities that give them unfair advantages in combat... your ambidexterity arguement perhaps. how else is ambidexterity to be controlled, without that rule, you\'d have an army of dual weilding warriors and rouges in every campaign. there are rules that I don\'t agree with in third ed, but as a DM, it\'s at my discretion to change them. that\'s the beautiful thing about tabletopping, (better name than pen and paper) it allows any rule to be changed within reason.

one of the best reasons to have lots of rules is that often an arguement will arise that requires a logical responce that the DM might not have forseen. say in the case of a character and a monster having the same initiative, how is the situation handled? it\'s covered in the DMG. however, if the DM is not satisfied with that rule, he can make a house rule that contradicts the book rule. just so long as there is a rule in front of the players that cannot be argued with, the DM can point to the rule and say \"this is how it is, if you don\'t like it, tough\"


I\'ve run into some sticky situations with \"powerplayers\" people that are just fine with a game as long as they can play it to their advantage. but as soon as the situation turned against them, they tried whining to me to bend the rules in their favors, and as long as I\'ve got the book in front of me, and a poster with house rules behind me, I have no reason to give in.
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Post by: druke on July 25, 2004, 07:01:42 pm
i have played dnd for 6 six years, within that time i have played both adnd and dnd 3e/3.5e

i cant really judge, 3e is just easier to understand due to the d20 system which many people are skeptical about, kinda the same reason everyone hates microsoft type ordeal i think.

anyways just recently me and my friends starting playing whitewolf games /mind\'seye theatre games.. and wow....it rawks..the rules are perfect, it kind of hard to get the hang of at first, but once your into it, i honestly cant describe it with words, its just plain awsome

ps. yes me and my friends still play dnd, and i dm both dnd and whitewolf, there are some elemnts that we miss from dnd, they even out sorta, but i like to dm white wolf tons more
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Post by: dfryer on July 30, 2004, 06:54:11 pm
My fiance & I have been thinking about getting some friends together to play D&D-  her parents used to when she was younger, but neither of us has actually played.
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Post by: NewPie on July 31, 2004, 12:00:48 pm
Jay. Finally I found good way to use DnD.

We use some of it\'s monsters and spells in other games with my friend to speed some things up. Nothing more -_-