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Title: The Blitzers Guild
Post by: Levski on July 21, 2004, 11:06:19 pm
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The Blitzers Exordium

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We the Blitzers hereby do ordain this exordium of our guild to the general public.

We the Blitzers are recognized as high knowledgeable personages that embody ourselves with predominantly nonpartisan principles. This in which we are vigilant, benignantly capitalistic, and carefully contriving for an equitable and gratifying experience in the world of Planeshift.

The Blitzers also hereby declare that in our state of unity we vow to intercede, under gird, and shield our fellowship of members. The Blitzers will conjointly accede for this guild to aim and arise. We do not wish to rule the land furthermore we wish not be ruled.

In times of contention we will bear arms. Distinct from fighting, war is such a cataclysmic circumstance, we will not choose to be embroiled in that unless it is summoned.

We dare not anathematize farther guilds nor we dare show disquietude toward them.

We hereby do ordain this exordium for the Blitzers Guild of Planeshift.

[Written by Kuiper, Arcane Scriptor of the Blitzers Guild]


Hi everyone, let us introduce ourselves, the Blitzers Guild.  The Blitzers Guild (BG) is of neutral alignment.  Our goal is to advance our members in all aspects of the game. We don\'t care what race or job you have - the more the merrier.  The guild is built for our members. We will watch over our newest members and help in any way we can.

Our guild consists of the Dinarchs, Consuln, Ringleaders, Chapterleaders, Chaptermembers, and Freelancers.

Here are some words about the Ring, Council and High Council concept of the Blitzers.

The High Council consists of the three Consuln and the Dinarchs, the Consul of War, the Consul of Information and the Consul of Commerce.  The Council consists of the six Ringleaders, who are in charge of the six Rings, the Ring of Fighters, the Ring of Rangers/Scouts, the Ring of Merchants, the Ring of Craftsmen, the Ring of Mages, the Ring of Alchemists/Enchanters and the three Consuln.

Each Ring is a broad category where many types, character classes and alignments can be present. These are represented in the form of different Chapters which can be created for every possible character concept.   In example, in the Ring of Mages, some chapters are Warlocks, Necromancers, and Druids.  If a Chapter grows in assigned members, a Chapterleader will be assigned to the Chapter, who helps the Ringleader of the Ring in which the Chapter belongs to.  Some chapters also have one secondary Ring, acquiring knowledge and skill in both their primary and secondary Rings.

Here is some information about the Rings and the current Chapters.

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Ring of Merchants
Ringleader:  Namehere

Everyone who mainly sells and buys things: goods, raw materials, information, services etc. may fall under this category.

Merchants Chapters : (secondary rings)[profession]
Negotiators (Rangers/Stealth) [Negotiators]
Blitzer\'s Express (Rangers/Stealth) [Messengers]

Ring of Craftsmen
Ringleader:  Mooragan
Everyone who produces goods falls under this category: carpenters, architects, smiths, leather-workers etc.

Craftsmen Chapters : (secondary rings)[profession]
Hammer and Anvil (none)
Leatherworkers (none)

Ring of Fighters
Ringleader:  Zanoxx
Everyone who follows the way of the blade falls under this category: Knights, Paladins, Barbars, Swashbuckler, Martial Artists etc.

Fighters Chapters : (secondary rings)[profession]
Bora\'s Berzerkerzs (None) [Bodyguards]
The Hunt (Rangers/Stealth) [Hunters]
Enlightened Dark (None) [Grapplers]
The Fallen Ones (Mages Ring) [Dark Knights]

Ring of Rangers/Stealth
Ringleader:  Pogopuschel
Everyone who likes to explore the wide plains in the wilderness or the shadowy streets of the cities falls under this category: Scouts, Rangers, Explorers, Seekers, Spys, Thieves, Catburglars.

Rangers/Stealth Chapters : (secondary rings) [profession]
Claw of the Owl (Fighters) [Rogue]
Eye of the Owl (Fighters) [Snipers]
Wings of the Owl (All) [Beast Riders]

Ring of Mages
Ringleader:  Levski
Everyone who manipulates the subtle energies of Magic to produce some effects fall under this category: Warlocks, Wizards, Illusionists, Battlemages, Healers, Necromancers, Scryers, Sorcerors etc.

Mages Chapters : (secondary rings)
Archmages (None)
Warlocks (Fighters)
Necromancers (Alchemists/Enchaters)
Druids (Alchemists/Enchaters)
Shaman (Alchemists/Enchaters)

Ring of Alchemists/Enchanters
Ringleader:  Karosh
Everyone who produces goods with magical effects fall under this category: Enchanters, Alchemists, Mystic Smiths etc.


So if the Consul of Information calls for a scouting mission the Ring of Fighters may send some muscle, the Ring of Mages a Battlemage, and the Ring of Craftsmen may support with just the equipment needed and so on.

Each Ringleader may call on their members or ask for help from the other rings. It\'s not really a strict structure and every guildmember may seek instruction, teaching, and help from every ring.

About our alignment.  We are a neutral as a guild, but individually, every one is allowed to have his or her own preference on alignment.  The beuty of this arrangement is that it allows both good and evil oriented characters to work together and help each other for a common cause, that of the Blitzers Guild.

Currently, we are one of the largest and most succesful guilds in all of Planeshift.  

The Ranks of the Blitzers Guild are as follow:

9: Dinarch
8: Consul
7: Ringleader
6: Chapterleader
5: Doyen
4: Veteran
3: Disciple
2: Novice
1: Apprentice

So when you start out, you are an Apprentice, but by choosing a Ring and a Chapter to be in, you are automatically bumped up to Novice.

If you are interested in joining us, visit us at http://blitzers.dyndns.org.  Be sure to visit the forum and post your application in the Draft Board.

And always remember,
As the world changes
The Blitzers will strive
Coming together
To stay alive.


[Composed by Levski, image by Sinon]

Update:
- Added professions to the chapter names for better clarity.
- Added some more information on our alignment, ranks, and structure.
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Post by: DepthBlade on July 21, 2004, 11:24:53 pm
Looking good as usual, except for your neutral status why not just put that aside and take a side :P

@response to bottom post- I still fight for the good as a individual but my guild chooses to fight for the money which i dont mind taking as well :P
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Post by: Icefalcon on July 22, 2004, 12:04:47 am
Anyway, good luck Blitzers. I had always enjoyed browsing through your picture gallery on your website.
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Post by: Monketh on July 22, 2004, 01:23:20 am
Bah, I go and write a new thread, then you come and outdo me...
*hands the blitzers some kind of award*
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Post by: Levski on July 22, 2004, 02:11:27 am
Actually, this has been in the works since July 7th......... but thanks :).  The image at the top took a long time, particularly.  It was really a guild effort.
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Post by: Levski on August 19, 2004, 07:40:01 pm
A big welcome to Elentirus who has joined our guild!
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Post by: Ecolem on November 15, 2004, 07:29:43 am
68 Members and 122 forum members up to date :D , just joined a couple of weeks ago...best guild ever ;)
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Post by: Annah on November 15, 2004, 01:02:22 pm
Very nice indeed. What can I say ... Good Luck Levski.
 This guild evolved so much and so fast. No offence meant, by I must admit I didn\'t even hear of it until a few months ago :P
 Though, you\'re one of the best organized guilds, and most active around.
 I hope you\'ll think very well at the possibility to join the Planeshift Council, because it really needs someone like you ;)
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Post by: Waylander on November 15, 2004, 11:24:45 pm
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Originally posted by Annah

 I hope you\'ll think very well at the possibility to join the Planeshift Council, because it really needs someone like you ;)


Meaning a planeshift guild at all :P
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Post by: Myrtl on November 15, 2004, 11:46:12 pm
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Originally posted by Annah
 . No offence meant, by I must admit I didn\'t even hear of it until a few months ago :P


This is a sad sad day. How is it not possible for you to have heard of them?  :P
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Post by: Phinehas on November 16, 2004, 12:05:37 pm
Hey Levski, keep up the good work, make sure it all goes well, etc. etc. etc. But leave a little time for... other projects. ;)
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Post by: lynx_lupo on November 16, 2004, 07:28:43 pm
Heh, like Levski is running it. You people don\'t give enough credit to this organisation\'s true leaders.
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Post by: Phinehas on November 16, 2004, 08:47:25 pm
Like?  :D
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Post by: faldrok on November 17, 2004, 12:09:58 am
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Originally posted by Levski
 [Composed by Levski, image by Sinon]


Do not confuse what you wrote and what others have written. Also, give some credit to Kwartz; he did the image for us way back. So, all you (whoever all participated in it) had to do was add the border and background.

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Originaly posted by Levski
this has been in the works since July 7th.


Although, the ideas have been around for a long time. You didn\'t change much from the site, so if you want to be *technical*, then it has been in the works for a long time, as the Blitzers never had a proper thread besides the very first one and it was a throw-together one that lead to the site, mainly.

To Annah: Maybe because you are ignorant to guilds created BO? I know you heard of BG at one time, because you bashed/flamed the hell out of them (us at the time) when it started out.

To Phinehas: You just mention Levski, like he did most of this; which is false. He posted it here, yes, but he did not do as much as you, or anyone else, think.

To lynx_lupo: What do you mean by true leaders? The ones now? Heh, good try, but over 50% of these ideas came from way back. (Yes, when Hevrah And Skain were the leaders, I was in it and a few others) Only the newer chapters and stuff came recently, but the basis of the guild was originated before Levski, Bora, and all the other members. (Literally, too many to name.)

So, all-in-all, yea I seem pissed, but this is just the way I am. I call it like I see it; always.
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Post by: Levski on November 17, 2004, 12:26:08 am
Hmm, well I\'m just a Ringleader (of the Mages, rank 7).  Manden and Bora are the Dinarchs.  And I wouldn\'t have anyone else be my boss (well, in Planeshift).

And Faldie, I said composed, not written :).  Also, the part that Kuiper wrote in the top is not a product of the days you are talking about, and neither is most of the rest.

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By Faldrok
To lynx_lupo: What do you mean by true leaders? The ones now? Heh, good try, but over 50% of these ideas came from way back. (Yes, when Hevrah And Skain were the leaders, I was in it and a few others) Only the newer chapters and stuff came recently, but the basis of the guild was originated before Levski, Bora, and all the other members. (Literally, too many to name.)


Faldie, current leaders.  Bora and Manden.  Phosphus, Saz, and Dvornik.  Yes, we have had other leaders in the past.  But it is our current ones who lead the guild today.

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Although, the ideas have been around for a long time. You didn\'t change much from the site, so if you want to be *technical*, then it has been in the works for a long time, as the Blitzers never had a proper thread besides the very first one and it was a throw-together one that lead to the site, mainly.


The ad had been in the works since July 7th.  Not the organization :).  Which was founded over a year ago by Hevrah and Skain.  Who are no longer with us.

In truth, I don\'t see why you are mad Faldie.  Some people got the wrong idea, that\'s all.  I never claimed to be the leader of this guild, or to have written the whole ad.

To sum it up, yes Faldie, many of the ideas came from Hevrah, Skain, yourself, and others who started off the guild.  But you are, unfortunately, no longer with us.  That does not mean, however, that our guild does not continue to grow and to evolve as new ideas and new members join.
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Post by: faldrok on November 17, 2004, 01:03:21 am
I knew someone would take all of this the wrong way, so I prepared myself.

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Originally Posted by Levski
And Faldie, I said composed, not written . Also, the part that Kuiper wrote in the top is not a product of the days you are talking about, and neither is most of the rest.


Ok, \"composed\" can mean more than one thing, and I took it the wrong way. My mistake. Also I said over 50%, which is  pretty much true. And, the basis is almost an exact replica of what Hevrah and I wrote. The motto (exactly what I wrote, word for word), the stlye (or sense) of neutrality, the benefitting of members as the (or, one) goal, the not wanting war or fighting *that often* (although I wanted it myself...), etc. were all from the beginning. The exordium by Kuiper is just a restating of what he got from the website and/or ideas from when it started. I know that he did not think of all those ideas by himself, as the Blitzers had them before he joined! BG Council has been around a long time, and many guilds have had them, so they are not your or my idea. The aforementioned stuff is over 50% of the post, so there. I proved my point on that. (I do give Credit of Chapters to latest Blitzer days, though.)

Yes, the current leaders lead; they did not think of more than oh, 20-30% of the major themes that make up the Blitzers. So, give credit where it is earned, and the founder(s) of the guild always get the most credit because it was their idea.

Also, do not confuse the title \"leader\" with the actions of that person. Yes; Skain, Hevrah, Bora, and Manden are all that have been leaders to Blitzers. I know I never made it to the top and that doesn\'t bother me, do you know why? I know I did my part (and, exceedingly more) and I gave the guild my all, whether anyone acknowledges it or not. So, you (and others) are confused and need to settle some things within. Note: I am not bragging or anything, but I did give the guild 110% or more (others did too), but I never had the \"leader\" title, so there is proof that the guild doesn\'t rely 100% on the leader(s).

I am not mad, and you would understand that if you read the last two sentences of my post. Here they are again:

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Originally Posted by Faldrok...me.
So, all-in-all, yea I seem pissed, but this is just the way I am. I call it like I see it; always.


One last thing, your summary contradicts the rest of your post, so it is very confusing to see where you are coming from. I also never said the guild couldn\'t grow, but you (and others) are claiming more than your share.

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Originally Posted by Levski
Manden and Bora are the Dinarchs. And I wouldn\'t have anyone else be my boss (well, in Planeshift).


*cough* Suck-up. *cough*

EDIT: Typos.
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Post by: Kiern on November 17, 2004, 01:37:04 am
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Originally posted by faldrok
To lynx_lupo: What do you mean by true leaders? The ones now?


Uh, I think lynx is reffering to the project him, levski, and phinehas are working on.

Which I simply must talk to Bora about. :baby:

On a side note, you are great.  Too bad you\'re a Texan.
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Post by: saz on November 17, 2004, 09:03:57 am
First, I would like to express my appreciation to Faldie for keeping this thread active. :)


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Originally Posted by Faldrok.
So, all-in-all, yea I seem pissed, but this is just the way I am. I call it like I see it; always.
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Yes, you certainly always call it as you see it ?.. but as you may learn not everything you see is as you perceive it. Notwithstanding, you are right about the fact that the Blitzers were established on strong foundations contrived by its early members and leaders (which just happen to include you). It is these foundations which have helped the BG become the great guild it is today. This said, other guilds founded on at least as strong if not stronger foundations have come and gone while the BG  \"? strive Coming together To stay alive.\"  In other words, continue to thrive because of its current members and leadership. I think you should be proud and gratified that the \"current\" BG has kept to its original concepts and manner, which you helped establish, and used them as the building blocks for its basis today instead of throwing them away and starting anew like other guilds have.  For these reasons I think you should only have praise and commendations and not words of criticism for the current BG membership.

On a personnel note I miss having you around in the BG?you and your very vocal and critical commentary about anything and everything?. Keep it up :)

Saz

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Post by: Phinehas on November 17, 2004, 10:10:35 am
To Faldrok: You assume a lot, my friend. You assume that I\'m talking about what you think I am. You assume that I am naive. I don\'t appreciate it.

To Kiern: Tell Bora about what?

To Levski: Dvornik is a leader in your guild?!?!! Awesome! I must come and visit, we haven\'t talked since I moved to a computer that can\'t handle MB.  :(
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Post by: lynx_lupo on November 17, 2004, 03:42:35 pm
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Uh, I think lynx is reffering to the project him, levski, and phinehas are working on.

no.

Of course I didn\'t say any names, I meant more people and I didn\'t want to do distribution, which would be innately errouneus, since I don\'t know that much. When will you realise my ambiguous ways? .--.-. :D
What an argument starter. ^^
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Post by: Phosphus on November 17, 2004, 06:30:02 pm
Alot of people built this guild, not just one, two or even ten. We are proud to have such a great history, with such great members. However, I am also proud at what the guild is right now, today, and I will be proud in the future... This thread contains the bundled work of all the blitzers, and the words written no longer belong to a person, they are a part of the guild now...

As the world changes
The Blitzers will strive
Coming together
To a brotherhood hive

From the dark forest
And the far plain
People are
In Blitzers bane

Brother and sister
Kran and dwarf
Working together
So none shall starve

As the world changes
The Blitzers will strive
Coming together
To stay alive



Phos, Consul of Commerce of the Blitzers has said
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Post by: Kiern on November 17, 2004, 10:00:04 pm
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Originally posted by lynx_lupo
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Uh, I think lynx is reffering to the project him, levski, and phinehas are working on.

no.

Of course I didn\'t say any names, I meant more people and I didn\'t want to do distribution, which would be innately errouneus, since I don\'t know that much. When will you realise my ambiguous ways? .--.-. :D
What an argument starter. ^^


You fool, quote your sources. :P

What is a \"blitzer\"?  It seems kinda random to me.
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Post by: faldrok on November 17, 2004, 11:20:19 pm
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Originally posted by Phinehas
To Faldrok: You assume a lot, my friend. You assume that I\'m talking about what you think I am. You assume that I am naive. I don\'t appreciate it.


If you don\'t want to be misunderstood, state your opinions/ideas/facts/statements more clearly. You, yes you were the one who assumed that everyone knew what you were talking about, but not everyone did. I, for one, did not.

And how come nobody takes my posts the right way? I never said that the guild can not grow/evolve any more; never. So, stop trying to say that is what I mean, because clearly; it isn\'t.

So, really, everyone took things the wrong way; including me. Damn forum discussions, you can never get the true meaning across like you could in a real life conversation.

(Also, it has been a little confusing about IC and OOC, maybe for some. Some was IC and some was OOC, but I am too lazy to specify because they intermixed. :-/)
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Post by: Phosphus on November 18, 2004, 02:49:11 am
Kiern: A blitz is german for lightningbolt

Hence Blitzer...
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Post by: faldrok on November 18, 2004, 04:05:13 am
I don\'t think Hevrah and/or Skain knew German, well Skain might have. Not too sure for them. That might be a coincidence, oddly enough as the Blitzer\'s symbol has a lightning bolt in it, but maybe that is why the Lightning Bolt is there, not the other way around or something. I sort of confused myself, but I don\'t think the name Blitz(er) was referring to a lightning bolt at the time, but time changes, right?
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Post by: Levski on November 18, 2004, 04:37:41 am
It came from Final Fantasy X, oddly enough from Blitzball...
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Post by: Phinehas on November 18, 2004, 05:37:10 pm
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Originally posted by Phinehas
To Faldrok: You assume a lot, my friend. You assume that I\'m talking about what you think I am. You assume that I am naive. I don\'t appreciate it.


If you don\'t want to be misunderstood, state your opinions/ideas/facts/statements more clearly. You, yes you were the one who assumed that everyone knew what you were talking about, but not everyone did. I, for one, did not.


Umm... What I said was said to Levski to praise him for his work. I did not say that he had done most of the work, I simply praised him since he was the only one around to praise. If you were unsure of what I meant, it would have been better to remain silent than insult my intelligence. I do, however, share your frustration with forum discussion.

@Phosphus: I\'m sure you don\'t remember me from when I used to run around in MB, but \"hi\" anyway.
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Post by: faldrok on November 18, 2004, 11:13:08 pm
Well, I am so sorry that you thrive on what other people think. Although, I don\'t think I insulted your intelligence. You might have taken it that way, but I did not intend for that to happen. If I was going to do that, I would have came out and said it.

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Originally Posted by Phinehas
If you were unsure of what I meant, it would have been better to remain silent...


Well, I don\'t remain silent unless I think it is best to, and it isn\'t like I humiliated, made fun of, or hurt you in any way. For the safety of stopping further arguments (discussions, whatever you want to call it) I will leave it at this:
I am sorry if I insulted your intelligence as it wasn\'t my goal, and I will continue to speak my mind, but I don\'t overdo it like other people.

NOTE: There should be something about Blitzers around here somewhere...
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Post by: Ecolem on November 22, 2004, 07:45:04 am
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Originally posted by saz
First, I would like to express my appreciation to Faldie for keeping this thread active. :)


Sorry saz  :(  but the fact is that this thred was goin down after 3 months of no replys so \'i\' was kinda the one to revive it again :]

(dw were still friends :D )
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Post by: saz on November 25, 2004, 07:37:19 am
Of course, Mondo, and i have no problem giving credit where due.... so thanks.....
especially since by replying to you i further extend the life of this thread :)
 but even you have to admit that it was Faldie\'s \"wild\" comments that kept the thread active afterwards

of course, if anyone else out there would like to comment in anyway about the Blitzers
please feel free to add your two cents (or what ever you think it is worth) here

Saz

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