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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: FlippySeal on July 30, 2004, 04:00:39 am

Title: KNIGHTS TEMPLAR
Post by: FlippySeal on July 30, 2004, 04:00:39 am: New guild recruiting... we\'re unofficial so far but hope you are interested... this guild HAS a history (Something most guilds don\'t) and is based largely on History itself... :D
If you\'re interested. contact
pandemonium@gmail.com
OR
hoffy_412@hotmail.com

All races are accepted, the only thing not accepted are freelancing rogues, who put their own interest before the safety of good people!

Knights Templar
Non nobis Domine, non nobis sed Nomini Tuo da Gloriam

Not for us O Lord, not for us but in Your Name is the Glory

Rank Level of Hierarchy

Grand Master of the Knights Templar 9

Seneschal 8

Knight Brother 7

Turcoplier 6

Under Marshal 5

Standard Bearer 4

Sergeant Brother 3

Templar 2

Turcopole 1

History
950 years ago, a township was victimized by fiends of the darkest kind. They burned cottages, ransacked houses, and stole hoards of food. 25 years later, the raids continued, with no way of the people knowing when they were coming.
Right after a raid in early winter, the fiends killed 47 people, and ate their winter hoard and burned the rest. The people banded together to form a society of fighters, to drive back their oppressors. Thus, resulting in the birth of the Knights Templar. A group dedicated to doing good and protecting people.
Training remotely underground, they amassed a force they were sure could fend off their enemy, it was time to make a stand.
The air was silent. A breeze came in every now and then. Most people were in their houses awaiting the next raid, and what would happen. The other people were dressed as the Knights Templar, they stood guard outside.
A beast appeared at the edge of the woods. An odd sort of creature, short, black with yellow eyes. It began to approach the town, and behind it came all of the towns attackers, fearsome beasts.
The defence was short, ending in defeat of the fiends. But the Knights Templar had only chopped off one of the beast\'s hand, figuratively speaking, and it could still bite.
So they ventured to where their enemies called home. That attack was also short, most of the Knights Templar died.
The wind was blowing, all was quiet, everything lay dead. Except for 3 people.
They were a Knights Templar Standard Bearer, and two of the Seneschals.
From there, they returned to the town as heroes, but refused to stay, but rather, travel the land granting save passage and helping the needy, freeing people of their oppressors.

We are the surviving Knights Templar.

Beliefs, Diplomacy
We fight for pilgrims, seeking enlightenment and change. We fight for our own interests- as long the good are not harmed. We are good guild, not neutral, nor evil.
We plan to team up with a political party and serve as an army of the people. This is hopefully to be the basis of our funding.
Our duty is to roam the land to seek people in need of help. And to root out all evil. May death come swiftly to our enemies, and all who oppose us!

EDIT: I have included revised changes to our history, seeing as there was some b*tching going on. Anyways long story short, our website has not been updated in a while, but will be shortly.
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Post by: Cybio Kingfist on July 30, 2004, 04:20:46 am: Another good guild? Huzzah!
It\'d be easier if you finished the site before advertising-or some of it. Then you don\'t have to type the same email reply 1500 times.
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Post by: FlippySeal on July 30, 2004, 05:41:58 am: Ha! We need a webmaster with some REAL cool skills! The other thing is that to be official, we need 10 members... something we don\'t have yet!
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Post by: Tranor on July 30, 2004, 06:04:04 am: It doesnt matter whether ur \"official\" or not... bc even when u are \"official\" u arent really \"official\" if u know what i mean. Because in reality there is no such thing as \"official\"!
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Post by: DepthBlade on July 30, 2004, 06:25:48 am: meh I am sure there is a guild, cult or something called Templar of Steel..but thats alright! Good luck and great job for choosing a noble path, and people like Cybio Kingfist shut up and actually see what a respectable guild is...take a lesson!
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Post by: Half_Pint on July 30, 2004, 01:55:32 pm: Well, firstly, good luck with your guild! It\'s nice to have another good guild around. :)

I just wish people would stop using real-life things as the basis of their guild. I mean, you\'ve just copied the organization and ranks and goals of the real-life Knights Templar.. Still, I wish you success.

I didn\'t think your history was exactly the most flattering thing I\'ve ever read, especially if you want people to see your guild as \"good.\" What kind of good organization would flee through a tunnel, even if ordered to do so, and not let their allies escape as well? ?(

And the line in your beliefs that says, \"to scatter the seeds of evil\" sounds like you will spread evil, not defeat it. \"Seeds\" makes it appear that you will \"sow evil through the world.\" You may want to change that... :P

So, please take into account what I have said. I merely think that originality and clarity in your writing is important for a guild that intends to succeed. I hope you take these criticisms for what they are: attempts to give you advice that will be helpful in the long run.

Best wishes. :)

EDIT: How many Seneschal were you planning to have? If you are going to keep with the real-life structure of the Knights Templar, you should have three. That\'s how many the original Knights Templar had.

The identity of the Grand Master was kept secret to all those who were not Seneschal, so nobody ever knew which of the four people was the Grand Master. That made it a lot harder to target the leader. :)
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Post by: FlippySeal on July 30, 2004, 02:18:55 pm: Quote
I just wish people would stop using real-life things as the basis of their guild. I mean, you\'ve just copied the organization and ranks and goals of the real-life Knights Templar

That\'s not a problem... people often need inspiration! and the tunnel thing... well i could ask myself the same question... The Knights Templar actually did that during the fall of Acre in 1291 :) Survival of the fittest!
And as for the Seneschal thing... one step ahead of ya! ;)
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Post by: Half_Pint on July 30, 2004, 02:23:52 pm: Well, it\'s nice that even if you decided to use an already-made organization, you are at least familiar with it. :) It\'s really great to have a guild that has such a well-planned organization. :))

I still think that it would be better to have a more original guild idea, but that is merely personal opinion. Because you have thought things out so well, I truly wish you success.

Just remember, violence is not the answer. ;)

(I just had to throw that in.) :D
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Post by: FlippySeal on July 30, 2004, 08:58:04 pm: Agreed.

But I think that what we\'ve done... is better than someone basing it on something completly irrelevent from planeshift... i.e. the metal militia, whose roots are the band Metallica.
Or at least we know the Knights Templars well enough to at least put in it\'s proper place, i.e diplomacy, political stance, what were fighting for, etc, etc.
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Post by: Cybio Kingfist on July 30, 2004, 10:04:17 pm: Quote
Originally posted by DepthBlade
meh I am sure there is a guild, cult or something called Templar of Steel..but thats alright! Good luck and great job for choosing a noble path, and people like Cybio Kingfist shut up and actually see what a respectable guild is...take a lesson!

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Post by: FlippySeal on July 30, 2004, 10:35:53 pm: Quote
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what do you mean by that stuff??
And by the way, we have our guild site up and running...
It\'s temporay keep in mind! But knowing me temporary means permanent ;)
But we hope to have a new one soon!

EDIT: Funny, i fogot to post the link.
http://www.knights-templar-guild.tk
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Post by: Myrtl on July 30, 2004, 11:50:32 pm: The guild now has 5 and possibly 6 members. Dont hesitate to go to our web site and see what we are all about. There is a list of contacts on our web site that you can email if you wish to join the Knights Templar.
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Post by: Cybio Kingfist on July 31, 2004, 12:27:59 am: Quote
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what do you mean by that stuff??
And by the way, we have our guild site up and running...
It\'s temporay keep in mind! But knowing me temporary means permanent ;)
But we hope to have a new one soon!

EDIT: Funny, i fogot to post the link.
http://www.knights-templar-guild.tk

Originally they altogether formed a picture of the middle finger, but the post removed the spaces and it got messed up.
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Post by: Myrtl on July 31, 2004, 12:31:09 am: What the heck is ur problem... giving out the middle finger?
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Post by: Cybio Kingfist on July 31, 2004, 12:32:28 am: Depthblade\'s inability to comprehend me, is all.
Title: KT RULES
Post by: Lanfear on July 31, 2004, 12:34:17 am: Yay, a good guild wit hhistory and background to add flavour!
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Post by: Myrtl on July 31, 2004, 12:35:48 am: please stay on topic... :)
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Post by: Sangwa on July 31, 2004, 12:36:00 am: That\'s why there is war in the world. Men don\'t understand each other XD.
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Post by: Myrtl on July 31, 2004, 12:37:21 am: We got 6 members in the guild so far...only 4 more to go till we are official!:)
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Post by: Cybio Kingfist on July 31, 2004, 12:38:21 am: Do you know where to send the email to become official? :P
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Post by: Myrtl on July 31, 2004, 12:41:02 am: uhhh...good question...i will need to look into that.
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Post by: Sangwa on July 31, 2004, 12:44:25 am: Hehe ^^. I hope you know that being \"official\" here means that you are listed among the other listed guilds on Kada\'s site ^^. So go to her site (http://www.thebbb.tk) and check how it\'s done :).
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Post by: Cybio Kingfist on July 31, 2004, 12:50:19 am: You spoiled it Sangwa. It\'d be more fun if yo had let him wander around trying to figure out where to send it.
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Post by: FlippySeal on July 31, 2004, 01:33:33 am: He already did!! He made a thread...
As for the middle finger thing??!! That was part of the middle finger??!! What are you demented??!! Naw i\'m just kiddin\'
Man! we have strayed completely off-topic!
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Post by: Myrtl on July 31, 2004, 01:50:13 am: Lets try to stay on topic.
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Post by: FlippySeal on July 31, 2004, 01:55:39 am: Quote
Lets try to stay on topic.

Mrytl, ur not a mod... let mods say that... it\'s also mindless posts...oh this discussion better stay on topic though, or whoever derailed it is a thread hijacker.

On topic though, we now have 5 member our 6th pending and so far are doing quite well...
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Post by: Myrtl on July 31, 2004, 05:20:06 am: Our site is now up and running. There are still a few minor things to do still. We also now have our forum in which our guild can comunicate!:)
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Post by: FlippySeal on July 31, 2004, 10:28:35 pm: We now have a website, 7 members, and a forum... were doing better than i originally thought!
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Post by: Half_Pint on July 31, 2004, 11:34:35 pm: I\'m just curious...

What is the average experience of your members?

(How long have they been playing Planeshift and/or reading these forums?)

By the way, congrats on getting so many members so quickly! :)
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Post by: FlippySeal on August 01, 2004, 01:44:13 am: 3 of us have played the game and read the forums for more than 6 months, I am one of them. We have enough experience to answer most questions people have, and know most tips and tricks around the game, and have read everything on the site quite thorougly.
4 of us have not played the game and read the forums for more than 2 months and still struggle sometimes, but they get by quite alright!
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Post by: Myrtl on August 01, 2004, 04:32:45 am: Most of us are experienced RPG and MMORPG players. I am sure we will do well.:)

Oh and we only need 3 more members to become official!:)

We still need to update our site to show that though....
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Post by: Half_Pint on August 01, 2004, 12:36:47 pm: I\'m glad to hear that you have some experience; some of the guilds that I have seen started in the past have scared me a bit. 8)
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Post by: Myrtl on August 03, 2004, 05:57:00 am: When u say some guilds have scared you, do you mean like they totaly suk and they are gona disband the guild in a day...or like they are uber pro and they will pwn anyone?
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Post by: Half_Pint on August 03, 2004, 01:36:48 pm: I mean that they seem that they will never last, and it is a waste of forum space to have their threads.

Still, I shouldn\'t judge them before I get to know them. :P

/me slaps himself for being so un-Mirthful. :D

I am not scared of guilds that think they can \"pwn\" anyone, because they really have no reason to attack Mirth or those we help. And there is not really any guild that could defeat any other, especially when there are no guild wars yet. :)
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Post by: Cybio Kingfist on August 04, 2004, 03:55:27 am: Two months and still struggling?
Kinda sad. :P
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Post by: Myrtl on August 04, 2004, 04:06:01 am: Just wondering are u talking about our guild? Because we have only been around for 5 days (and not struggling yet :) )
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Post by: Half_Pint on August 04, 2004, 12:05:05 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Half_Pint
I\'m glad to hear that you have some experience; some of the guilds that I have seen started in the past have scared me a bit. 8)

Read the above. :)

It sort of implies that I think you\'re doing better than some other guilds that I\'ve seen around here. 8)
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Post by: Phinehas on August 04, 2004, 01:51:51 pm: Stop with the \"official\" thing already. And Cybio, keep your fingers to yourself, Depth is a great guy.
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Post by: karakth on August 04, 2004, 06:25:06 pm: Quote

History
900 years before this present day, a major, friendly held stronghold was the last foothold in a foreign land. The entire Knights Templar was stationed to protect that city, the city fell in a 3 day siege against 500,000 enemy soldiers and 500 machines of war. At this point, when the army was doomed to fail at this stronghold, the Knights Templar ordered their last-resort plan, they escaped through a tunnel running 2000 feet under the city and to a major seaport. The Knights Templar were ordered through the tunnel, only the Knights Templar could use this.
Although the allies of the Knights Templar fought valiantly, they were all either killed or captured. They were all killed? except for the Knights Templar, they were just able to avoid the massacre and escaped safely to a seaport which escorted them safely back their homeland.
We are the surviving Knights Templar, avoiding certain, and immediate eradication 900 years ago. We have grown since then.

Do you mean 2000 feet below the city or 2000 feet along the city (but only a few feet under it, for example). Because in that case you\'d end up outside Yliakum :/

Besides, there isn\'t such a thing as a \"foreign land\" in Yliakum. You might want to say that you were trying to hold onto the fifth level, but that\'s just bleh. And don\'t forget that the only seaports are on the sixth level. And they don\'t lead to any different lands. Just the far side of the sixth level if anything.

Then again perhaps all this happened in another stalagtite, in which case you could bypass the whole seaport thing and say that the tunnel lead into the Stone Labyrinths, which then lead you to Yliakum.

I think you should probably try and reconsider your history a bit. RL geography doesn\'t work too well in PS. Also, I am not fully certain that Yliakum is large enough to hold all these huge armies...

I don\'t mean to b*tch, but a guild with an irrelevant history is nearly as bad as a guild based on Metallica :P
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Post by: Myrtl on August 04, 2004, 08:35:59 pm: We mean a tunnel that is 2000 feet long that is under the city.
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Post by: Myrtl on August 04, 2004, 08:38:42 pm: Oh and we like our history how it is, but ur idea about having the tunnel lead to Yliakum is also a clever idea. Thanks for your comments.
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Post by: Crj on August 04, 2004, 10:38:20 pm: As I see Karakth already started to argue with you :)
I\'ll continue.
I may be semi-blind, or have some reading problems(this happans realy often to me), but this story dosnt realy explain how the Knights Templar started. It only tells about a short period of the existence of your guild. From what i understood teh Knights Templar already exsisted before these events happand. So this dosent explain one of the most important parts of the guild history - the creation.
I would be happy to hear more :)
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Post by: Myrtl on August 05, 2004, 12:23:36 am: The Knights Templar were formed to protect pilgrims and the likes. That was thier main job. After they became more experienced thier task was also to root out evil.

As you already know the Knights Templar are actually \"real\" in life...well most of them are dead im guessing, but thier descendants live on. Not all of our story is real though, we have added alot of our own history to it. We liked the history if the Knights Templar.

At the begining of our history it says that they escaped from an underground tunnel.... and that non-knights templar were not allowed through. That is a historical fact too. None else was told about this tunnel except for the Knight Templar so they couldnt have used it anyway.

If you have any more questions leme know and ill answer them as best as i can.:)
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Post by: Yarulion on August 05, 2004, 03:01:10 am: Quote
Originally posted by Myrtl
As you already know the Knights Templar are actually \"real\" in life...well most of them are dead im guessing, but thier ansestors live on.

Don\'t you mean their descendants live on? :P
Hmm, I wonder would that make you all Freemasons? :rolleyes:
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Post by: Myrtl on August 05, 2004, 03:49:16 am: Lol, oops i meant thier descendants
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Post by: Jekkar on August 11, 2004, 08:11:39 pm: Great!! A guild about the Knights Templars, i studied some history about them.
They really fascinate me,its a good thing that there\'s a guild about it now.
I still know this game i played on my GBA ,uhm ow yeah
Broken sword: Shadow of the templars,great game.

Anywayz ,good luck with the guild ...hope you stay a very long time and make some allies so you can live a long life.
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Post by: FlippySeal on August 12, 2004, 10:05:28 pm: Yeah thanks... well we have an updated site.. but we haven\'t quite redirected it to our .tk domain yet. See it here http://www.aflashbuilder.com/knightstemplar

And it\'s Knights Templar no \"s\" at the end of Templar
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Post by: Myrtl on August 13, 2004, 05:14:47 pm: Just like to let everyone know that we now have 10 members for the guild.(Ya Hoo!) We look forward to getting more members and making alliances with other guilds. I think we already have a rough idea of who we want to make friends yet but we dont know for sure. If you guild has an intersest in having an alliance with our guild post in this thread.:)
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Post by: Tyriel on August 15, 2004, 12:18:56 pm: hey I woted for you that you could get in the guild list.. now give me your money.. :))

ok im just jokein.. although I voted but I dont ask for money.. I take it.. you know what I mean ;)

I checked your site.. looks cool.. hoping to see ya ingame.. .. good luck

Tyr.
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Post by: Myrtl on August 16, 2004, 06:01:07 am: Thanks, we appreciate it. We need all the votes we can get to get on the guild list...last time i checked we were 1st in the poll!!!:P
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Post by: Cyberchu on August 16, 2004, 02:52:16 pm: I made some alterations to the history

History
900 years before this present day, a major, friendly held stronghold was the last foothold in a foreign land. The entire Knights Templar was stationed to protect that city, the city fell in a 3 day siege against 500,000 enemy soldiers and 500 machines of war. At this point, when the army was doomed to fail at this stronghold,
Although the Knights Templar and their allies fought valiantly, their allies were all either killed or captured, while the Knights Templar were driven back towards a portal that was 2000 feet under the city.The Knights Templar were forced through the portal, only the Knights Templar were near to it so only they could get through it before the enemy could close it. The Knights Templar escaped safelyand fond themselves in a strange land where they settled and began to teach the locals races the cult and code of honour of the knights Templar, although they are surviving in Yikalim they someday hope to return to their homelandwhich they remember as nothing but a distant memory.
We are the surviving Knights Templar, avoiding certain, and immediate eradication 900 years ago. We have grown, expanded and diversified since then.
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Post by: karakth on August 16, 2004, 04:15:15 pm: Good thinking there ;)