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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Keyaz on August 12, 2004, 02:24:26 am
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Yes you heard me!
The Champions of Yliakum Want you in their guild!
Check The Champions of Yliakum Website here (http://tcoy.ps-mc.com) For more information on our guild rules, current members, and play in our cushty chat system ;) .
OR simply PM me and i\'ll give you a mailing address to contact the leader of our guild.
OR look out for the leader of the guild \'Vanderbal\' on planeshift and ask :)
JOIN NOW!! pls :)
EDIT: updated link from a million years ago >.>
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Looks like Defenders with a more flashy website (I won\'t say better because it isn\'t better)
What\'s with all the duplicate guilds lately? Defenders of Happiness, Black Rose Clan, Rangers of the Expedition... it\'s starting to annoy me.
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lol i see your point, but, this isn\'t jus a phaze of, oh lets make a guild, yeah thats cool! oh... no ones joined... nevermind lets go glitch!
this guild is gonna stay, it aint gonna be massive, like defenders, blitzers ordo illlumionatis arcane order or whatever, it\'ll be a smaller \'faction\' so to speak, but we will be elite! :D if you dont like it dont post! lol
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It doesn\'t matter if you don\'t have many members. Your guild is the Defenders. We already have this guild, yours should not exist. Why did you not do more research?
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This is not the defenders its the Champions of Yliakum the gretest faction of warriors in history we dont defend we atack with a terrible vengence and furiosity.
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hush now joeyguy :)
as far as i know every one has the right to make a guild big or small, you want to flame at me, do it under your breath, like i said, defenders are massive, we are not.
slight difference, anyways i have a few friends from the defenders, they don\'t seem to mind. :P
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why not form defenders of happiness, metal militia, rangers of expedition an all of them form as one and then you would have one real big guild....of newbies ;)
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lol tis a good idea, but would cause conflict in the \'im in charge\' area, plus im not a newbie :P i\'ve been on for a while, jus never thought about guild stuff until now
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Originally posted by mikedean
this guild is gonna stay, it aint gonna be massive, like defenders, blitzers ordo illlumionatis arcane order or whatever
You forgot the Mercenary Guild ;)
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alright here are some suggestions for your guild \"The Champions of Yliakum\", although it closely follows the ideals of several other guilds thats okay in my eyes although if i was a player looking for a guild i\'d pick the \'other\' guilds simply because they have more members and have been around longer.
first your website,
the intro, its ... okay... maybe make it a higher res. spice it up, if your going to have an intro make it perfect
where are your forums? am i blind?
make a join form so people know what you want them to reveal about themselves
guild history?
your code of conduct reads like the 10 commandments.... sorry to inform you but um, you aint god :)
i dont know where your hosting but move. that stupid advertising banner at the top just ruins the whole thing. if you need webspace theres lots availible with alot less advertising ( non in fact if you contact guilds that have there own servers (like the fso)
secondly i dont see a goal what do you plan to accomplish ? become the best guild? what defines the best guild?
looking at all your posts, your website and the fact ive never seen you on irc IC or OOC leads me to the conclusion that you have not even thought about roleplaying. maybe you should, the game is based on roleplaying... mark stuff as IC or OOC, i see IC rules, do you have any OOC rules? incorportate roleplaying into your guild or your doomed to die, (or be ignored by all the better players).
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I\'ll keep my thoughts here short and sweet.
Flash = good
Spelling = not good
Color scheme = OMG >.<
So, in short, if I ever need an interior decorator or a website designer or really anything that involves picking out colors, I won\'t be calling on any of you.
Anyways good luck to you! If your admitted goal is to be the Defenders only with less membership and experience, then I wish you all the failed recruitment attempts and n00bishness your little heart desires! (You seem to have a handle on the other components.)
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GAH! Hit the wrong button and double posted.
But while I\'m here, I\'ll add this... (sorry mods/readers)
Originally posted by colonel_vanderbal
This is not the defenders its the Champions of Yliakum the gretest faction of warriors in history we dont defend we atack with a terrible vengence and furiosity.
Just because their name is \"Defenders\" doesn\'t mean they\'re on the defensive. It simply means they have something to defend (i.e. protect).
Originally posted by mikedean
...but would cause conflict in the \'im in charge\' area...
I sincerely hope you have more/better reasoning than that, especially after your other comment.
Originally posted by mikedean
...this isn\'t jus a phaze of, oh lets make a guild, yeah thats cool! oh... no ones joined... nevermind lets go glitch!
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There was a guild called Champions of Talad, but like so many small guilds around here they have not posted in a while or got any members as far as I can tell. So I guess in terms of a name, you are safe, ish.
Right - My issues with your guild:
1. Unoriginality; yet another fighting guild with no real je ne sais quois - something to set you apart.
2. Your website; I know it?s petty, but your site is built with an online builder thing? I can?t express how much that sucks, I guess I just kind of view it as cheating. Combined with a distinct lack of reasonable content and you have got yourself a crummy website. But that?s ok; a few oldbie guilds have crummy websites too.
3. Roleplay, and the lack thereof.
To be fair, despite your saying otherwise, I can?t see your guild making it unless it really changes. Guilds a lot better than yours have collapsed in the past. Despite this however, you are a better guild than ?defenders of hapiness?. Good luck.
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OOC: Well, I find it hard to condemn you, because at the least you have done *some* work on your guild before posting here.
*Looks at the title of the Defenders\' website..*
Defenders of Yliakum
*Looks at the title of this thread...*
Champions of Yliakum
*Compares goals of Defenders and Champions..*
Hmmm....
We really need a \"disapproving\" smiley. :rolleyes: I guess that will have to do.
Why must there be so many clone guilds? Why?!
IC: Good luck, Champions of Yliakum! Except for the fact that you are copying a guild that happens to be an ally of mine, I have nothing against you. It is always nice to see another group that is ready to fight against evil.
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dont be evil to this great guild they are bettwr then most of ur guilds!!!
any1 who is mean to them will be my enemies!!!!!!!!
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dont be evil to this great guild they are bettwr then most of ur guilds!!!
Marvelous site... only you spelled surpassed wrongly. It\'s not surpast, it surpassed! :D
Jaggit, does that mean you\'ve joined them??!! Besides saying \"dont be evil to this great guild they are bettwr then most of ur guilds!!! \" doesn\'t make much sense, because most guilds were made by people like you, and a certain defenders of happiness!
If you\'ve given up on Defenders of Happines, please PM me regarding your opinion on joining the Knights Templar.
If you have joined the Champions Of Yliakum, PM me anyway to decline.
I bid you good day!
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Heya Jaggit, you have no room to be judging guilds. Period.
We don\'t want to insult you guys, we just want to help you. There is no point in making clone guilds. None. At all. The annoying part about all of this is that you guys, the ones that seem to be dedicated, make guilds, post all over the place, then have to disband your guild because of inactivity. Now if you guys joined a succesful, active guild, you would have the chance to do so much more.
This guild really reminds me of the Defenders. Or perhaps even the Circle of Legends.
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once again i seem to be repeating myself, hush now, i don\'t want to hear your \'omg your copying blah blah blah\' no offence but your a bunch of whiny slags, sure at the moment the best you can do is roleplay, but never have i seen you lot on the actual game, an jus cause we\'re a new guild don\'t mean we\'re shite, and the spellin on site, well we didnt exactly get great grades in english, we\'re shorthanders, so if you want to whine, whine elsewhere, this thread is meant for people \'interested\' in joining our guild
thanks and buh bye!
Demarthl
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This is Vanderbal the leader of the Champions i have not ment to offend any ov you i have deccided to create my own guild because i thought it would be a god idea i thought the idea was to help eachother why all the negative comments guild commandments sorry if its the same as somebody elses i didnt look at other guild commandments wether you belived me our not i just put them down as guidlines to the guild members the site sorry if its not perfect the first iv ever made its on a online builder because i cant afford to do it any other way if we are the same as another guild then sorry this was not intensional i admit i didnt research which there 4 means i cant have copyed it just shows there are likeminded people on planeshift so sorry 4 everything i have done wrong if you dont like my guild or me just because its new then sorry but there is no reason to be negative 4 the people posting to help thank you the people posting just to flame get a life.
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For the record mikedean, i said nothing bad... I\'m doing this to salvage my reputation among your thoughts :D:D
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Originally posted by colonel_vanderbal
This is Vanderbal, the leader of the Champions. I have not meant to offend any of you. I decided to create my own guild because I thought it would be a good idea. I thought the idea was to help each other. Why all the negative comments? About the guild commandments: Sorry if they\'re the same as somebody else\'s. I didnt look at other guild commandments. Whether you believe me our not, I just put them down as guidelines to the guild members. About the site: Sorry if its not perfect. It\'s the first I\'ve ever made. It\'s on an online builder because I cant afford to do it any other way. Ff we are the same as another guild, then sorry. This was not intensional. I admit I didnt research, which therefore means I can\'t have copied it. It just shows there are likeminded people on Planeshift, so sorry for everything I have done wrong. If you dont like my guild or me just because it\'s new, then sorry, but there is no reason to be negative. To the people posting to help, thank you. As for the people posting just to flame, get a life.
I wasn\'t flaming the guild, if that\'s what anybody was suggesting. I was informing you that it was almost identical to an already existing guild. Nobody thought you copied anybody. We know that you wouldn\'t have stolen another guild\'s concept. It\'s just that there really isn\'t room for two almost identical guilds, and quite frankly, most of us like the Defenders better.
However, you can do what Rangers of the Expedition did: Change your goals enough that you are no longer a duplicate guild. Rangers of the Expedition now has a distinctive mission, rather than just being an Explorers clone. I suggest you do the same.
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or just simply, no, our guild our ideas, we can keep em if we want, besides defenders l have enough stuff to do for themselves, so just stop bringing up pointless arguements!
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Just trying to be nice :)
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no offence, but this thread was made for the people that are thinking:
\'right, i want to join a guild, let\'s have a look on the forums, blah bkah blah, yada yada yada...\'
not for you lot to give \'advice\' on how to make a guild, jesus how long has the blitzers been going?!? we\'re not making this to compare for christ sake, we\'re making a guild because we want to dammit! we play the game, chat, make a few friends, form a guild and go around doing quests and fighting/ training or whatever, together, so jeez, drop it guys, any more damn \'i think your guild is ...\' comments n ima hunt you down a bash your nerdy head into the four walls around you dammit!
application\'s and/or questions RELATIVE to joining our guild from here on ONLY
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What sort of information do you want people to give about themselves when they apply to join? For example, do you want to know what race they will be playing? What profession? What magic or weapons they are planning to use? What instant messengers they have? Etc...
It may be a good idea to post something about that on your website. I just mention this in case you aren\'t working on it already. :)
And, seriously, you should calm down. We aren\'t telling you how to make your guild, we are making suggestions which we hope would help you to think out ways to make a more unique guild, and therefore have less competition with other guilds for potential members. Another point we are really trying to make is that if the first experience that you have with a guild is leading one, you may not be as effective a leader as if you had been a member of a similar guild for a while.
There\'s no need to start threatening us and calling us \"nerdy.\" That kind of behaviour will do nothing good for you, mark my words. 8)
As I said earlier, deeds and words can change the true alignment of a guild, regardless of whether or not they claim to be \"good.\" You are marching down the shadowy road to evil, friend. You may want to reconsider whether you really want to go where that leads.
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sure i am mr evil mmm pokey pokey with a big stick in your eye.... tch HAHAHA!
ima fight monsters that new ppl to ps cant handle or want help with to gain exp or wahtever, you, you go play in your rpg forums :)
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Well, lets see how long this guild lasts.
But seriously, if he doesn\'t want your suggestions, don\'t give em to him. He can learn the hard way if he wants.
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I could post this one of many threads but i just happened to be on this one reading all the complaints.
My opinion is that you should all just shut up about \"noobie\" and \"clone\" guilds. so what if they crash and burn in a week or a month or two? are they REALLY harming anyone or inconveniencing(spl) you? I think if all ur gunna do is flame about how they are a clone or a noob guild u have no right to post on their thread.
If you see a thread that u think is a clone guild or a noobie guild just dont even go look at it if it makes u so dissapointed and angry just leave them alone to either prosper or last forever. Leave the poor guys alone geez.
And please dont flame this thread. Flame my PM folder if u have complaints.
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Originally posted by Tranor
If you see a thread that u think is a clone guild or a noobie guild just dont even go look at it if it makes u so dissapointed and angry just leave them alone to either prosper or last forever. Leave the poor guys alone geez.
Just trying to help :(
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Ahhh! The last post hurt my incompetent brain ;(
LoL, anyway I agree. I don\'t care if names are similiar, I only care about their goals and ways and shit like that. Maybe people just make a clone because they\'re too lazy to work up to a high position in an already existing guild like that.
As for my guild...Champions of Talad...it failed :( I dunno why...I guess fanatism and good don\'t mix well together...or people don\'t have the commitment for that kind of thing :)
I wonder what all the guild leaders\' secrets to success are... ::sigh::
I\'m probably gonna destroy CT a while after CB...
[/relating my pitiful attempts] off
-Zy
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This thread is not for flamming our guild it is for recruting so if u wish to flame us please use your own thread and leave this 1 alone
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Originally posted by colonel_vanderbal
This thread is not for flaming our guild. It is for recruting, so if you wish to flame us, please use your own thread and leave this one alone.
Looks like Yarulion did it. Everybody move on out.
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The new websites up and runnig experiencing problems with the old 1 so gota switch 2 the new still under construction but works well enough http://www.freewebs.com/thechampionsofyliakum/
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Cool, having read your new site I think your guild is comming along nicely, good luck.
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Originally posted by colonel_vanderbal
The new website\'s up and running. I\'m experiencing problems with the old one, so I\'ve gotta switch to the new one. It\'s still under construction, but it works well enough. http://www.freewebs.com/thechampionsofyliakum/
Wow, the new one looks nice! I say you keep using that one.
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why thank you very much
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Holy carp 3000% improvement! Love the new website :))
(and yes, I meant to say carp :P)
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One word for the amount of improvement you have made: Awesome. :)
I love the history, too. It seems to fit you very well. :D Great work!
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Why thank you all kind sir\'s i have put alot of time into this guild and it is nice to hear positive feedback
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Yeah, much better, nice work. :D
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right i keep hearing \"aaah u cant do that that guild allready exists\" well what can ya do??? there a 3 types of guild u can have: good, bad and neuteral... thats it. so can everyone stop moaning about copying??? there aint nthin else to choose?
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Remember The Champions Of Yliakum are recruiting go to
http://www.freewebs.com/thechampionsofyliakum/index.htm
for more info. looking forward to seeing all the new recruits.
Colonel Vanderbal
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The sites been updated yet again now containg its first download woooo.
Colonel Vanderbal
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Well, the may not stick out from the crowd, but with 200000 players registerd, it\'s kind of hard to be truely unique anymore. :P
And of course, and good guild is welcomed by the Defenders, especially one with a similar goal. Makes it that much easier to reach. :]
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Well your new site looks alot better, and might I say, it looks rather good...
...except that its a preset template by freewebs. But eh, not everyone will notice.
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Originally posted by -=Cozmo=-
right i keep hearing \"aaah u cant do that that guild allready exists\" well what can ya do??? there a 3 types of guild u can have: good, bad and neuteral... thats it. so can everyone stop moaning about copying??? there aint nthin else to choose?
That is a very narrow-minded statement...
Perhaps you should search Amazon.com for a copy of \"Role-playing for Dummies.\"
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Originally posted by -=Cozmo=-
right i keep hearing \"aaah u cant do that that guild allready exists\" well what can ya do??? there a 3 types of guild u can have: good, bad and neuteral... thats it. so can everyone stop moaning about copying??? there aint nthin else to choose?
Actually there are tons of different things. Take Kuiper\'s new guild for instance-They\'re fashion designers. As i was trying REALLY hard to explain to Lasiocarpa(which I\'ve come to know as a total moron)guilds do not have to be all about fighting. Though, that is the reason for many people\'s joining so I can\'t blame you for not seeing that sooner.
I was quite dissapointed at first(more with your hostility towards suggestions than anything) but it looks like you\'re doing much better now. I saw the poll results at Kada\'s tavern and you\'re in second place. Good job.
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Wow, look at me go up in here killer style :\\
such a noob... ah well, moving on
New site (http://tcoy.ps-mc.com)
New forum (http://tcoy.ps-mc.com/forums/index.php)
I\'d go into explaining how we work now but I\'ve yet to pry the full details out of Vanderbal when he has a spare moment, we\'re not openly recruiting as far as i am aware, we are active ingame however, you just can\'t see us ;)
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Nice to see you\'re back in action again. :)
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Good luck to you! hope it all goes well! Welcome back.
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Originally posted by Keyaz
Yes you heard me!
The Champions of Yliakum Want you in their guild!
Check The Champions of Yliakum Website here (http://www.aflashbuilder.com/vanderbal) For more information on our guild rules, current members, and play in our cushty chat system ;) .
OR simply PM me and i\'ll give you a mailing address to contact the leader of our guild.
OR look out for the leader of the guild \'Vanderbal\' on planeshift and ask :)
JOIN NOW!! pls :)
Well, Noxide was nice enough to give up TCF for this guild...So it must be good ;)
EDIT: I read the site and I have to say, I\'m impressed too...This almost fits perfectly with my character history, but I don\'t think I want to quit Felines Lair just yet...but it isn\'t really much of a fit with my character history there, so I\'ll think about joining ;)
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you mean you will request application to the guild, its not am atter of hey im in so and so.. no wait im in this one now!
we have respect for Felines Lair and do not wish to steal members from other guilds, especially just because someone thinks we look good.
(even though i did steal noxide, but thats a different matter altogether :D)
I\'ll get ahold of our new requirements and put them on the site when I can, then we can judge if your suitable or not :)
EDIT: not to mention you quoted a bloody post from mid 2004, and undoubtedly looked at the wrong bloomin site :P
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Originally posted by Keyaz
we have respect for Felines Lair and do not wish to steal members from other guilds, especially just because someone thinks we look good.
Well, you do look good :)
And if Suno_Regin is happier in TCOY then I have no qualms about him applying for membership. I believe all players should belong to the associations that best suit them. Besides, we like Mitaki. Deep down under it all he\'s soft and warm and squishy and stuff.
As long as the respect is there between FL/TCOY and the guild and Mitaki, it doesn\'t really matter what guild he ends up in so long as everyone rides off into the sunset happy
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I know I look good, I\'m a Nolthrir!
... a Nolthrir with 17 charisma >.>
our site and setup may look all pretty, but if someone just jumps at us for that, we could be a fly trap to their ideals
put in a little research, a bit of chat, stir well and leave to set for 5 minutes, we might turn out to be a sour bun, or a chocolate cake.
you never know
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Greetings all it is a long time since our beginnings in Mb one of the reasons we choose to post our return in an old thread is to show our evolution although much is not in this thread, from our early day\'s being flamed as newbs when me and the other co-founder had been playing Ps for over a year before creating the guild but anyway I digress.
We are back and here to stay we where once a rather known guild with strong allies and involved in some of the more important things within the Ps world I think so anyway.
The site is still under some construction so if there is anything anybody wishes to know feel free to e-mail me at colonel_vanderbal@hotmail.com I am happy to answer any questions.
Until we meet I wish you a fulfilling journey through life.
Vanderbal Ulskarfa - Lord Of The Frozen North -
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If you are here to stay than welcome back :). Its great to hear that you have the time now for TCoY once again Vanderbal. We have some matter to discuss friend. Talk with you soon.