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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Kada-El on August 15, 2004, 01:14:35 am

Title: New Guilds
Post by: Kada-El on August 15, 2004, 01:14:35 am
Recently there seems to be a big rush of new guilds entering the fray. It?s often extremely hard to tell which of the new guilds will stand the test of time and which will fall by the wayside after a few weeks, and so it?s hard to know which guilds to add to my guild list and award a permanent place there. So I?m going to let you decide! Please vote in the poll on this page (http://www.cad.energiserve.com/tavern/index.php) , and the winners will secure their place on the guild list in the tavern (you must be registered there to vote).

Please note I have only included those guilds which at least have a website. If I?ve missed your guild from the running, please let me know.


On a totally unrelated note, now that Ghostslayer is no longer an Assassin is the guild no more? Any info that anybody has would be appreciated.

Thank you :)
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Post by: seperot on August 15, 2004, 01:17:08 am
i\'d like to state this poll is unfair.....since there is no \"none of the above\" option

and nice to tell us your back from your holiday kada :P
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Post by: Kada-El on August 15, 2004, 01:29:07 am
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Originally posted by seperot
i\'d like to state this poll is unfair.....since there is no \"none of the above\" option

Harsh Sep, harsh :)
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and nice to tell us your back from your holiday kada :P

I\'ve posted here and there a couple of times, isn\'t that enough? I\'m not really such a fan of those threads which have the sole purpose of announcing that some random person has come back after being away for a few weeks, and I\'m sure you\'re not either ;)

BTW I\'m back :P
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Post by: Ghostslayer on August 15, 2004, 02:12:06 am
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Originally posted by Kada-El
On a totally unrelated note, now that Ghostslayer is no longer an Assassin is the guild no more? Any info that anybody has would be appreciated.


A bit before I left, I had created a new forum for the guild, there is only 3 posts there (not made by myself) and it hasn\'t had any new posts in 2 months.... so if its not dead, its definately inactive.
Although if there has been any activity by Assassins in game I\'m not sure... I haven\'t had the time to log in for a while now.
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Post by: Kada-El on August 15, 2004, 02:37:15 am
Thanks Ghostslayer, looks like the time may have finally come to remove Assassins :(
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Post by: Zyphon on August 15, 2004, 02:49:16 am
Yes Seperot, that is quite harsh.

If you think the new guilds are crappy, unimaginative, unplanned, stupid, idiotic, or anything else negative, all of the above, some of the above, then don\'t vote.

-Zy
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Post by: FlippySeal on August 15, 2004, 03:09:16 am
*Sniffles* You made me cry!!! *sob**sob*  Naw I\'m just kidding, but I found it harsh, I am after all in the Knights Templar Guild. Has the Incensio Tenebrae been listed?
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Post by: Kada-El on August 15, 2004, 03:15:18 am
Like I said elsewhere:

You guys will just have to make your choice, or not vote at all. The new guilds of today could be our ruling guilds of tomorrow, you never know ;)

Incensio Tenebrae was added to the list back in May.
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Post by: Levski on August 15, 2004, 03:45:38 am
Heyy welcome back Kada!

I have a question, what stops someone from voting for their own guild over and over again?  I know that I clicked the back button to be able to vote for 2 guilds, but other people might misuse that.

By the way Kada, you move the guilds into the Planeshift guilds of old when they are over a year old?
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Post by: Waylander on August 15, 2004, 04:11:09 am
Heh, though that is harsh Sep, I think I saw it quite a few times on the bbb forums.  Personaly I voted for Cybio, but don\'t tell anybody
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Post by: FlippySeal on August 15, 2004, 04:35:30 am
When does the poll close?
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Post by: Joeyguy on August 15, 2004, 04:37:36 am
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Originally posted by Levski
Heyy welcome back Kada!

I have a question, what stops someone from voting for their own guild over and over again?  I know that I clicked the back button to be able to vote for 2 guilds, but other people might misuse that.

Are you sure it worked?
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Post by: Kada-El on August 15, 2004, 04:46:44 am
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Originally posted by Levski
Heyy welcome back Kada!

I have a question, what stops someone from voting for their own guild over and over again?  I know that I clicked the back button to be able to vote for 2 guilds, but other people might misuse that.

By the way Kada, you move the guilds into the Planeshift guilds of old when they are over a year old?

Thanks Levski :)

I don\'t think it is possible to vote multiple times any more - only your first vote will register - let me know if you find things otherwise.

I tend to move guilds up a rank, once the number of guilds entering the list below pushes them up, rather than a set time limit.
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Post by: FESFES on August 15, 2004, 07:35:49 am
UGH I reccomended The Coterie of Dernier Cri to be added and now they\'re beating the Militia :(
Well I\'ve gotta say that the results seem to be fair.
The Knights Templar and The Coterie of Dernier Cri are led by people who have been playing longer than me and have a stronger foundation though I think the Militia would be third on that list.  I hope my guild makes it up there anyways.... :(

EDIT and shouldnt the Cabal be on the guilds of old list?
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Post by: Levski on August 15, 2004, 09:31:05 am
No... the Black Order is the oldest guild still alive and kicking.  Cabal was founded by Auron later.
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Post by: Waylander on August 15, 2004, 10:00:36 am
uh, what does that have to do with putting the Cabal on the guilds of old place, Levski?
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Post by: seperot on August 15, 2004, 10:43:04 am
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Originally posted by Zyphon
Yes Seperot, that is quite harsh.

If you think the new guilds are crappy, unimaginative, unplanned, stupid, idiotic, or anything else negative, all of the above, some of the above, then don\'t vote.

-Zy


well done you win a cookie  for pointing out the bleeding obvious. :P

*hands him another cookie for listing what he thinks of them*

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Incensio Tenebrae was added to the list back in May


was it may.....seems like it was just a few weeks ago actually

 
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*Sniffles* You made me cry!!! *sob**sob* Naw I\'m just kidding, but I found it harsh


glad to hear it :P
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Post by: snow_RAveN on August 15, 2004, 12:21:47 pm
At least his better then ... Nvmd ... :D

Imo Most the new guilds are crappy, unimaginative, unplanned, stupid, idiotic, or anything else negative. The only nice ones are the ones kuiper thinks of.

But its Nice to know your back kada, also do i still have youur voet for the worestty spiller in the next ps awards  ???
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Post by: TheRedMonk on August 15, 2004, 01:40:20 pm
I think it\'s weird that Chaotic Warriors is considered a new guild. John Thazer created a thread for the guild the 25th of April. The Order of the Black Rose (the last guild added to Kada\'s list) was added the 25th of May.
Now I don\'t really know if the guild is active, but if it is I really think it should be on the list. And if it\'s not you might as well remove it from the poll :/

snow_RAveN: It\'s fun to see how your spelling is great everywhere except in the sentence where you say it\'s crappy :P
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Post by: druke on August 15, 2004, 04:47:18 pm
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No... the Black Order is the oldest guild still alive and kicking.  Cabal was founded by Auron later.


yea, but cabal was only a few weeks after AO
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Post by: Kada-El on August 15, 2004, 04:58:53 pm
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I think it\'s weird that Chaotic Warriors is considered a new guild. John Thazer created a thread for the guild the 25th of April. The Order of the Black Rose (the last guild added to Kada\'s list) was added the 25th of May.
Now I don\'t really know if the guild is active, but if it is I really think it should be on the list. And if it\'s not you might as well remove it from the poll :/

Chaotic Warriors made it to the vote, because they have been around a while and seem to be quite a stable, established group. It was a borderline case due to there not being a full website as such yet. In the past, if I\'ve added guilds without sites to the list they have tended to vanish before the site is even up - wasting my time and everybody else\'s. I don\'t believe this is the case for CW, but that is the reason it has taken longer to consider them for the list, unlike Order of the Black Rose who announced the guild with a full website in place and counting a number of long term and established community members amongst them. It\'s nothing personal, I just have to draw the line somewhere and have some criteria to judge by.

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shouldnt the Cabal be on the guilds of old list?

In comparison to some of the guilds out there in this community the Cabal is not that old. As the new guilds come and if older guilds die out the Cabal will rise up the list in time.
The dates listed are when I added them to the list rather than the actual creation date of the guild.

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do i still have youur voet for the worestty spiller in the next ps awards ???

We\'ll have to see snow, probably not - you\'re trying too hard now :P I\'m sure there will be many more incompetents to challenge you when we have CB ;)


BTW there have been some recent host instability issues of late, so if the site is down, please come back later. Sorry for the inconvenience :(
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Post by: Levski on August 15, 2004, 05:39:12 pm
Whoops guys, read it wrong, I thought FESFES said, \"Shouldn\'t the Cabal be on the top of the Old Guilds list?\" My mistake.

Glad to see new guilds being added to your list, Kada.  I was wondering when you would add some, since your last entry was mid-May.
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Post by: FlippySeal on August 15, 2004, 10:49:26 pm
Hmmm... can\'t seem to get on your site Kada. Oh well can someone tell me the standings?
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Post by: colonel_vanderbal on August 16, 2004, 02:07:26 am
Errr Kada i cant get on the site to vote or see the results so far, how are The Champions Of Yliakum doing
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Post by: Monketh on August 16, 2004, 02:13:18 am
Pffft.
We\'ve been around longer than the Cabal, and last time I checked, the Rangers Guild was not listed as a \"Guild of Old\".

(Speaking of checking, I couldn\'t right now because thebbb is down... :()
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Post by: Joeyguy on August 16, 2004, 02:52:58 am
And the Cabal isn\'t either.
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Post by: Sangwa on August 16, 2004, 04:48:34 am
I don\'t think Sep was that harsh. It\'s his opinion if he doesn\'t think any of the selected guilds are good enough to belong to the guild list, so I think we should be able to vote for that ^^.
Voting for no one (blank vote) is different from not voting.
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Post by: Xordan on August 16, 2004, 10:14:27 am
Heh, we\'re not the oldest, but we sure are the best :D

And I want a funky rollover thingy for Cabal as well :P

Edit: Yeah your host sux, get a new one. And while you\'re there, get some .com :)

Edit2: Now that I think of it, Cabal\'s gonna be 1 year old in a few weeks :) WOOT!
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Post by: Myrtl on August 17, 2004, 06:07:15 am
Ugh the site is still down. Does anyone know the votes for each guild???
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Post by: Kada-El on August 17, 2004, 02:01:37 pm
The site is up, but who knows for how long :(

Knights Templar lead with 7 votes, followed by the Coterie in second place with 6 votes. 3 guilds tie for third place with 3 votes each (Champions of Yliakum, Metal Militia, and Rangers of the Expedition).

You make a good point Sangwa, but my opinion is that some of the new guilds are good enough to appear on the list - and I will be adding some, so any votes registered for \'none of the above\' are a wasted vote to me. That said if there is a big call for such an option I will gladly add it.

You can have your funky rollover for the Cabal Xordan, just send me the text you\'d like to appear (it is only in development, but any guild who would like to make use of this feature are welcome to send me their guild summary too).
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Post by: Keyaz on August 17, 2004, 03:08:10 pm
Hey kada, Demarthl of the champions of yliakum, we have a slight problem here, the oll does not seemto be taking in votes, and i think ourguild really deserves to be on your list, we\'veput so muh effort into thisand hope you will add us no matter theoutcome, it\'dbenice to win it, but hope to get on in thenearfuture, ive had a fewpsfriends try and vote on the poll, but no matter who we vote for, thepoll stays the same, i apologise for the typos friend has a squidgy keyboard ^_^ hopeto speka to you soon, and be able to vote

Thanks

Demarthl
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Post by: Myrtl on August 17, 2004, 04:50:47 pm
How many guilds get to go on the guild list???
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Post by: Waylander on August 17, 2004, 04:54:22 pm
Bwahaha you guilds and your need to be voted on.  You see what I would have done ;)  is waited til I had a firm base then I would have publicized my guild.  And that firm base will be done with my new site :D
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Post by: colonel_vanderbal on August 17, 2004, 05:02:38 pm
sure. cos none of us have sites to publicise, none of us have friends to vote for us.

the poll doesn\'t seem to take any votes for anyone other then knights templar, no offence kada but it seems rigged :S

i\'ve had a couple people try to vote for tCoY but its remained 3, whereas KT has jumped another 2 votes
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Post by: Myrtl on August 17, 2004, 05:28:54 pm
FIrst thing first. NO the poll isnt rigged! The reason we might be winning might be because we are the most popular or somthing, i dont know! Dont start blaming us for your problems please.
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Post by: FlippySeal on August 17, 2004, 05:35:25 pm
Have your friends gotten an acccount on the site? That\'s what worked for me.
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Post by: Waylander on August 17, 2004, 06:01:59 pm
Yeah you need an account to vote guys, that keeps people from voting again and again and again
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Post by: Keyaz on August 17, 2004, 06:07:42 pm
ah figured it all out now, now my friends can vote for our guild now, very tempremental site kada ;)
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Post by: Kada-El on August 17, 2004, 07:05:52 pm
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ah figured it all out now, now my friends can vote for our guild now, very tempremental site kada ;)

:P The site isn\'t temperamental... well apart from it\'s current host ;) If you\'d read the news item on the site or the first post in this thread you would see that you must be registered to vote, otherwise as Waylander rightly pointed out, you could just vote as many times as you felt like.

Anyway it\'s only a bit of fun ;) No need for accusations of rigged voting and the like, I can assure you that is not the case. If a guild remains active and maintains it\'s website then it will be added to list in time anyway. All this poll will do is show me which guilds, according to the opinion of this community, should get there first. That way I figured it was fairer on all the newcomers, rather than it being my personal opinion.

As for the number of guilds that will be added in the first instance, that depends on the outcome of the poll. It will definately be at least two though, possibly more.
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Post by: Waylander on August 17, 2004, 07:08:20 pm
Hmm, I am still waiting for the time I wrongly point something out :P

Anyways, is the bbb going to get a new host?
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Post by: Levski on August 17, 2004, 07:11:28 pm
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:P The site isn\'t temperamental... well apart from it\'s current host ;) If you\'d read the news item on the site or the first post in this thread you would see that you must be registered to vote, otherwise as Waylander rightly pointed out, you could just vote as many times as you felt like.


What about me??

And what about the fact that some of these new guilds have more members than others, enabling them to get more votes that way?

Edit: Whoops, just saw Waylander\'s post about having an account...
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Post by: Kada-El on August 17, 2004, 07:27:37 pm
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Anyways, is the bbb going to get a new host?
Definitely!
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what about the fact that some of these new guilds have more members than others, enabling them to get more votes that way?

Then it will show that the guild is active and functioning well and deserves to be on the list anyway. The ones that have fewer members but are also seen to be active, well organised and stable should attract votes from other members of the community and so will also get well represented.
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Post by: Yarulion on August 17, 2004, 08:20:11 pm
I think I got a dimpled chad and accidentally voted for George Bush 42 times. Do you have a debug feature implemented yet?
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Post by: Xordan on August 17, 2004, 08:46:01 pm
heh, your inbox\'s full kada, clear it out. :) I have to clear mine out once every month or so :P

Anyway, I\'ve got plenty of space and bandwidth left on my host if you want to use that for the bbb.
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Post by: Kada-El on August 17, 2004, 09:54:25 pm
Oops sorry Xordan, cleared some space now.

Thank you for the kind offer of space, I think it\'ll be okay though - new host coming soon, I promise!
Sorry again everyone for the randomness of the host currently.
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Post by: Cyberchu on August 18, 2004, 08:27:00 am
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From thebbb.tk forums
Cyberchu
Slops Goblin

 
On the news page it says that the winners will be added to the guild list. Does it mean just one guild or several?
   

Kada-El
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It means several  

Cadoras - if I get more requests for \'none of the above\' I will add it, but I\'d rather people actually voted for someone, as I will be adding to the list regardless of how many vote for \'none of the above\'. Some have worked hard to get this far  


So it does not matter too much if you came in second
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Post by: Waylander on August 18, 2004, 08:32:45 am
you mean second instead of first?

I believe not but, it is always better to come in first.  My guess is that the guild that comes in first will be put over the one that comes in second and so on until Kada decides to add no more.

((Watch out, I posted here so there is a large chance of Aendar closing the post))

Careful, don\'t tempt me - Aendar
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Post by: Cybio Kingfist on August 18, 2004, 07:01:57 pm
Metal Militia is beating my cult in the poll. :O
I\'d better stop lazing around and put up the updates.
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Post by: Phinehas on August 19, 2004, 01:03:41 pm
Hey Cybio, I voted for you, not that I believe in your cult so much, but it sure was better\'n te other options.
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Post by: Cybio Kingfist on August 19, 2004, 08:39:02 pm
Thenks, though I realise right now the site is trash(noobish layout noobishly written...)((That\'s the old site, the new site is better))
My computer is getting fxed tomorrow then Sunday I go to camp for a week but after that I\'ll try and give it the update it so desperately needs. I can\'t wait until CB so I can redo the recruitment page.
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Post by: FESFES on August 23, 2004, 12:05:45 am
When I try going to thebbb it says action cancled.... HUH?
is threre a winner yet?
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Post by: Waylander on August 23, 2004, 03:24:16 am
[corny]We all are[/corny]

The host is down, Kada is getting a new one, we will find out then.
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Post by: FESFES on August 23, 2004, 04:29:32 am
OK thanks for your help^^
*sticks on white black and grey top hat and some pin*

EDIT OT Depth I appreciate you trying change for me so Ill change for you (I edited thid post)
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Post by: DepthBlade on August 23, 2004, 04:31:32 am
Trying so hard not to pummel you with Flame/Spam FESFES, don\'t make it so hard I am trying to clean up my act alittle ^^

I still can\'t access your site Kada, its been like this for a week...for me atleast
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Post by: Waylander on August 23, 2004, 05:32:28 am
Bah people stop trying to increase your post count with pointless posts.  Energiserve, the host Kada was using, is down.  Nobody can access the site until Kada gets a new host.  Kada is getting a new host.  We must wait

Any questions?
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Post by: Kada-El on August 31, 2004, 04:49:55 pm
Thanks for making that nice and clear Waylander ;)

As you may, or may not know (or care), the tavern has been back up for a little while now and voting has continued. Thanks to all who voted and congratulations to the Champions of Yliakum who topped the poll!

Congrats also to the runners up - the Knights Templar and the Coterie. All three have been added to the list.

As new guilds appear I may repeat this process, so those unsuccessful this time will have another shot. Any guild that received no votes will not be included on the next poll, unless there is renewed activity from them in the mean time.
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Post by: Levski on August 31, 2004, 05:09:12 pm
Congratulations to you!
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Post by: Myrtl on August 31, 2004, 10:08:30 pm
Wo ho were in! Muhahahaha. Thanks for all who voted. Good job to the CHampions who came first. Also congrats to the Coterie.
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Post by: Waylander on September 01, 2004, 01:01:44 am
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Thanks for making that nice and clear Waylander ;)


No problem Kada, it was either say that or go into a bloody rage.  And congradulations to the winners, can\'t wait to see what new guilds pop up now <-----that is a lie
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Post by: FESFES on September 01, 2004, 02:38:17 am
:) Grats to all of you who won!
*sniff sniff* :( poor poor MM, ah theres always next time