PlaneShift
Gameplay => Wish list => Topic started by: Monketh on August 18, 2004, 04:54:36 am
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(ogg\'s too)
I\'m relatively sure this has been discussed before, but...
I\'d like a folder or set of folders from which music of my choice would be randomly (or non-randomly) chosen for types of combat, events, markets, wars, traveling, locations, et cetera.
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C:\\Program Files\\PlaneShift\\art\\music
Just replace them. :)
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I know, I know, but a better system than that shouldn\'t take too much effort to code some day. :P
You know, like, with a GUI?
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So you mean like an ingame menu where you can select the current battle music, tavern music etc?
I\'m sorry but I have no idea what you are reffering too lol
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Originally posted by Mogura
C:\\Program Files\\PlaneShift\\art\\music
Just replace them. :)
What do we replace ogg\'s with?
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oggs. Just convert your favourite mp3\'s to ogg format (there are lots of converters on the net, just Google it) and rename them, replacing PS\'s original files.
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Originally posted by Mogura
oggs. Just convert your favourite mp3\'s to ogg format (there are lots of converters on the net, just Google it) and rename them, replacing PS\'s original files.
Thenks. It\'d have taken me months to figure that out. =O *Is slow sometimes*
And though everyone says to google something, I\'m a loser so I prefer Yahoo and Altavista.
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MP3 Support!
That one wont happen at all. MP3 is a patented media type which means you need to buy a license if you are going to use them in your game or whatever you decide to make. OGG is free. But, like Mogura said, find a converter and replace the PS songs with your music and you\'re all set.
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I\'ve only had problems with liscences a few times before. McDonalds had a promotion for prepaid downloads and gave out these code things. I got some music that stopped working after a few days because of liscences....I was pretty annoyed.
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given the nature of software today, the format of the music is basically a moot point.
but i like the idea of being able to adjust the playlist. while it may be too late for any kind of interface in cb for it. i wouldn\'t mind having to edit a text file to do it.
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I got some music that stopped working after a few days because of licenses
That\'s a different kind of license - Digital Rights Management, where they have specially protected files that can only be played by specially protected players, that eventually refuse to play the music. It\'s alllll a scam.
The MP3 license consists of having to pay the \"inventors\" of MP3 technology a certain amount of money in order to be allowed to distribute software that plays MP3s, at least wherever software patents are legal.
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Originally posted by Cybio Kingfist
I\'ve only had problems with liscences a few times before. McDonalds had a promotion for prepaid downloads and gave out these code things. I got some music that stopped working after a few days because of liscences....I was pretty annoyed.
Just curious, what player was that and what file format was it?
As to DRM, I don\'t event hink these are licenses at all, they\'re a marketing trick to squeeze more money out of the customer for the same thing, just like the DVD region codes. There is no moral or ethical support for these technologies, they remove the rights of fair use of what the customer legally bought. If I buy something, I can do whatever the hell I like to do with it, unless I cause harm to somebody else. If I wish to copy my music to all my computers, CD, tape and other players and listen to it on all of them at the same time, maybe with friends, then I will do so. If I want to destroy the DVD drive I just bought, or make it play tapes, or find out how it works, I will do so. If I want to make my MP3 player be controlled by Linux and post the info on how to do so on the internet, I will do so.
Any law that tries to prevent me from using my very own property as I see fit is not in my best interests. This especially applies to the DMCA and to software patents. While the DMCRA fixes the DMCA, a fix for the patent system is still lacking.
And I\'m surprised that Europe and Australia are stupid (or corrupt) enough to adopt the same system that has utterly failed in the USA!
Use my sig for more info!
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Ok, ok...
A playlist/player for ogg files with a gui and sub-folders for categorization, in-game. That\'s all I was after. :P
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Originally posted by Syzerian
So you mean like an ingame menu where you can select the current battle music, tavern music etc?
Thats what I would like...And possibly, when you add more music to the directory, it would show up as an option in-game as well.
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I guess I\'m getting a little OT here..
Seytra, I understand your opposition to DRM, but is it not legally possible that what you are being sold *isn\'t* the music/movie/whatever, but instead the right to listen to it 3 times? As long as the consumer understands what they\'re purchasing, I don\'t see it as particularly immoral. I guess the issue centers around the consumer becoming aware of what they purchase - if they are agreeing that they are not buying the music, but only the right to listen to it in a certain context, then they need to know that before they put down a single penny (and maybe sign something). When software inevitably contains a EULA, and very few places will accept opened software, what choice does the consumer have but to accept?
Some of the measures taken to enforce such systems (such as DMCA) really do seem to be created with evil in mind though, and many people don\'t realise what they\'re giving up. The DRM folk also don\'t seem to realise that either 1) there will be rampant piracy or 2) we will all live under a very restrictive, inflexible, fascist system of government - I would think that in an ideal world, instead of having DRM which only punishes people who keep the law, copyright would suffice and infringers of copywrite would be promptly found out and punished appropriately.
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Well, of course it isn\'t strictly immoral to sell i.e. the right to only use the music three times, only on weekends, between 3 and 5 am, but when it becomes immoral is when it is the only option made available. This is possible with music, since obviously there is no option to get a competitor\'s product. Also, looking at the omnipresence of just very few big labels, chanches of consumers would be next to zero to get anything besides the DRM\'d stuff. Just look at copy-protected CDs (better called \"usage-impaired CDs\" ). You simply can\'t get any that are usable. And you pay the same price for less functionality. Even if there would be non-DRM alternatives for the same content offered by these labels, it surely would be at an unreasonable price (because they give you soooo much more freedom *yawn*).
And let\'s face it, it does not stop any halfway intelligent pirate, does it? I mean, they\'re doing illegal things anyway, will they really care about the new laws? Also, they have exceptionally good and extensive equipment and technical know-how, so is there even the chance of DRM stopping one single pirate?
The only ones that are (maybe) stopped are the consumers who want to have fair use and copy the stuff for their friends, just like they always did (tapes, anyone?).
While one can of course argue about the legal and moral questions of fair use, one should be very careful to criminalise a common behaviour and therefore have 70% of any nation\'s population branded as criminals, especially if it\'s done to cater to some unflexible corporations who don\'t feel like adjusting their strategies (failing the most important directive in a capitalistic economy).
It may, therefore, be morally OK to sell the right to use the content 3 times only, but if the sale is done at the exact same (or higher, or only slightly lower) price than the unlimited usage right used to be, and / or if there are no alternatives, then it becomes morally wrong.
As long as I have the choice (and at a price I see as appropriate, not as artificially inflated), I will only buy unrestricted things. I want these rights regardless of what the music industry tells me I want / need.
If you start selling limited rights, then you\'re going to sell a computer that I may only use for certain things? Like running only Microsoft software? I don\'t think buying restricted rights is a good idea.
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More OT:
My response if it happened to me: \"Screw you, I paid good money for this!\" *Wires output-to-input on his computer, recording the exact same song into a usuable file he can play almost forever*
I\'d do it, and no law could (physically) stop me unless I somehow shared it over the internet or something. Because no law-enforcement official would know, or if he/she does, he/she\'s unlikely to care. Seriously, it just adds a few minutes for me to do some reconfiguring, doesn\'t accomplish anything, and makes me feel cheated (which, in turn, makes me less likely to -buy- the cd next time)...
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Originally posted by Monketh
More OT:
Seriously, it just adds a few minutes for me to do some reconfiguring, doesn\'t accomplish anything, and makes me feel cheated (which, in turn, makes me less likely to -buy- the cd next time)...
Exactly. For these usage-impaired CDs, you need an external CD player wired to your soundcard and - voila- a file comes out of your recording software.
Hehe, posting this might be a violation of some of these stupid laws that I was talking about above, making me a cyber-terrorist... ah, well INFORMATION ANARCHY!!!!!!!!!! :D
Still, I\'m not getting the same value for the same money I paid for the CD compared to a working CD. RIAA IMO stands for \"Ripoff Industry Associaton of America\"...
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A couple of you replied to the topic of liscensces and one said it was a scam to get me to buy it again or because of the mp3 player. This is not the case.
What happened was, a notification wqould pop up saying my computer is missing the liscence. It listed several ways to try and get it back, and I tried them, but it still didn\'t work. It also said if those didn\'t work to email the help service but they never replied.
I miss those HW downloads...v.v
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I also looked at all agreements on the site, I can\'t find out what\'s wrong.
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This seems like something one of the fans will create a mod for. (Which will eventually be added in due to it\'s insane popularity.)
Also, I was thinking of creating a sound forge type proggy for bard\'s to create PS Music. First we\'d need some settings info on instruments though. :)