Sure, privacy is important, but anyone could parse and mine such data from
http://planeshift.subhosting.net/index.php?page=char_stats,
which is a public (and useful!) site, so I don't really see the problem.
And yes, there was a button that allowed to hide yourself. *shrug*

Yes, that came to my mind now, too.

What I was pointing out at was the leak of *in-game* information to the whole internet community. But yes, such a leak is already happening, and its even displaying all players and does not require to input a player name. So I think it would be consequent to

1) Either put above page behind a password protection that only lets registered players see it. Or change it to "nr players online" with link to such a page within myplane.

2) Allow other such pages as well, such as Karnath´s one.

I tend to option 1 at the moment. I prefer my online times better not be accessible outside of the game. All instant messaging systems I know of work in a way that online status can only be seen by people I allow it to. I believe that this is for a reason.

Thanks for pointing this out. I think I will raise this issue on the next dev q&a or in a wish report.

Still I am sad why such a page could not be discussed, without someone leaving a guild and another one possibly becoming bitter. And I still think its good to discuss it before implementing it. Just "I could implement seeing last five login times for the given player name. How about it?". So no investment in time, before some kind of agreement is reached.

I appreciate Karnath´s effort to try to contribute to PS, but still believe discussing it is perfectly valid.

Regards,

Hi!

I do not really like that and have privacy concerns. For me its a difference whether I can see the information in game with my planeshift login or whether anyone - whether involved with the game or not - can see it on a public webpage. What I like that at least the players name needs to be entered, but I really do think this is best placed within myplane as an *opt-in* feature like most other stuff in there. (And player names can be extracted from myplane so someone make quite a log of online presence without even logging in to planeshift.) In game without parsing and counting my logs I can also only see last login time not last five login times.

Yes, it can be argued that one can get the information by having an alt logged in all the time and parsing logs and anyone can do it. But this kind of argumentation for my just doesn´t work regarding data protection and privacy concerns. Anything can be circumvented and collected unless I choose to not login to the internet at all or in some cases encrypt stuff. But there are rules on whats approbiate and what is not approbiate for a reason.

Begin able to get the information in game at least adds some accountability. If someone is known to abuse that information, his account could be banned. Having the information on a public webpage is quite something different for me.

I am a bit sad too that a member of our guild left the guild in an reaction to this. I think he overreacted somewhat, but still, I prefer discussing something like this *before* its implemented. And thus can understand some anger about it.

Thus, I kindly ask you to remove the page, Karnath, until after it has been discussed.

I also think its better done as an opt-in feature to myplane.

I remember the dev q&a where Gonger raised this issue and I remember some planeshift developer being quite reluctant about it due to privacy concerns.

Thanks,

I restarted the cooking quest chain yesterday. I think its pretty well structured now. Thank you a lot for it.

I am a bit confused about the baking book, cause it seems to be that it already includes all dishes, and it has hints that some dishes can only be done with higher skill level. From herbal I have seen stuff added over time. Is that specific to cooking? Or is that just the way the new, nicely reorganized crafting books work?

Thanks,

Hi!

I have some news regarding Linux intel graphics users. I am using PlaneShift with Intel i5 Core Sandybridge on an ThinkPad T520. With Mesa 8.0.5 I had to disable GLSL like described here. Gfx was fluent except for spell effects which let the machine crawl down to less than one fps. This was very annoying since it disturbed role play events where other players casted spells quite a lot.

I thus reported this with Intel gfx developers:

Bug 59086 - Slow spell effects with Planeshift on Intel Sandybridge HD 3000 graphics
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/59086

Kenneth Graunke fixed this already. The Intel driver was falling back to software rendering due to missing Y-tiled blits in CopyTexSubImage function that Planeshift/CS3D uses for spell effects. Result: Spell effects are fluent now. Even with four effects at the same time. At 1680x1050 (and I except the same for Full HD)!

In order to test the fix I installed Mesa 9 and with that Planeshift did not start with GLSL disabled anymore. Thus I removed the option

Video.OpenGL.UseExtension.GL_ARB_shader_objects = false
from my PlaneShift configuration file. And the game works just marvellously with GLSL enabled.

As a regression I had a gfx glitch I reported as well and Kenneth fixed already:

Bug 60172 - Planeshift: triangles where grass would be
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/60172

Another gfx glitch that has been there since I started playing the game may be an CS3D issue:

Bug 60185 - Planeshift: Another gfx glitch with some black area around plants
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/60185

but Kenneth wants to look into that as well.

It will take some time till the fixes will trickle to the distributions. I am currently playing Planeshift on Debian GNU/Linux Sid with Linux 3.8-rc6 and a self compiled Mesa 9.2 devel from freedesktop.org git master branch + the patches that fix the issues mentioned above. In case there is someone who wants to use these improvements and is not scared by having to compile stuff oneself, I can try to provide some instructions. (I think such a recent kernel is not needed for that.) Please tell me if you want that.

Thanks,