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Technical Help: IN GAME bugs (after loading world) /
« on: September 08, 2005, 08:10:02 am »
Rage McCloud, I never ONCE said i didn\'t like PS. I\'m just saying that it is heavly bugged.

I\'m not calling everyone rude, just the few that are rude.

I\'m not making my point again, I\'m responding to what people have said about my views.

I worked out the Movement Buttons, but in most MMO\'s the use on system not the both, IE, Either the Arrow Buttons or WADS.

SuburbanPlankton, I present my views in what ever way i want. Aprat from this forum, No one seems to mind bad spelling, IT\'S A FACT OF LIFE. You will meet people with WORSE spelling then mine.

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Technical Help: IN GAME bugs (after loading world) /
« on: September 08, 2005, 07:14:48 am »
I never said i was playing Planeshift to learn how to make a game.

your secound stament about the things i don\'t like are more or less correct, but with one little problem,

\"The things you don\'t like about this game, are the things that you don\'t want to HAPPEN in your own game.\"

I didn\'t forget that it has alot of people. and i know alot (Ok, ALL) don\'t share my view. I respect the member base of Plainshift for the fact the despit it\'s many bugs that are being worked on, they are still here. I can only hope that My Project gets that kind of Loyalty.

I don\'t see what stage my Project is in has any baring on wither the game will be better or not... I never said that my Project is going to be anything LIKE planeshift, and i don\'t think that PS will become the best game ever in its genre, even though it\'s far from it\'s goal. Look at Final Fantasy XI, World of warcarft, and Guild wars. Those are the games PS has to contend with. The only thing PS has over all those game, IN IT\'S CURRENT STAT, is that it\'s free...To download and Play, the other closest game to that is Guild wars, where you only have to buy the Software.

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The only thing you can show us now is your very big mouth, and no game at all.

So.... stop playing planeshift and begin with your own game and after a few years you can come back to tell us why your game is better than planeshift.


Your Right, I have nothign to show...and i\'ve never said other wise, My project is in PRE-production, meaning we are working on gameplay, graphics, Concept, staff recruting, and things like that. We already have all the staff needed, but, we want more then one person in each department. It mabey be a few months before we even get started on Programing, Modeling, and everything else like that. and We are going to make a test version avaliable to \"HELPERS\" who are people who have no talent in any of the departments and which to help, they will be our testers. It may take longer to get it out, but really, we\'re in no rush.

OH and i don\'t have an issue with closing topics, i just have an issue when people ask me question, and then the topic gets closed and i can\'t respond.

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Technical Help: IN GAME bugs (after loading world) / Things i would do... II
« on: September 08, 2005, 06:25:53 am »
Well since There were questions, and things i wanted to respond to, and someone closed the last topic, I\'ll just make a new one...

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Your own project going so well that you are willing to jump ship that quickly? Doesn\'t sound like the type of person we are looking for.

It\'s very easy to make a claim that \'our game won\'t have these bugs\'....


Never said i would \'Jump Ship\' on my project. My Focus would be My Project and then Planeshift, I like helping people, and that is why i made the topic in the first place, TO GIVE INPUT.
And that is what you and most everyone else is saying, Your want to get input from players, and I did (NO need for people to rip my head off about it)

But i was a bit harsh with some of the things, wasn\'t my intent...Bad day, So i\'m sorry about the things i said about the Dev team and that.

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You said you didn\'t know how to talk to people.

I didn\'t make what i said clear, i couldn\'t figure out how to talk to NPCs, You know, the people who give you information....and if it is the /talk type thing, then mabey a \"TALK\" thing when you right click would be better.

Oh and ThomPhoenix, That little Red star, Means your what a Mod? part of the Dev team, either way, If you act like that (RUDE) to new people who join the forums, people will leave, and not play PS, which from what i got from acraig\'s messages, This is a comunity based game.

And I addressed my comments above and I\'m sorry about them. And I my Project won\'t be ready for a whil.

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For the love of crap, get a spellchecker for your browser...

You know, people don\'t really make a big deal over spelling  over the internet, with people speaking leet and such, and then there are TYPO\'s...
And again, Rude person with a red star, as i said above, You might want to be a bit nicer, people will not play a game when the staff are rude to them, for making Opions, and whil I could have gave my opion a little less \"Cocky\" the base idea is still there.

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... timetable drift or merely a typo?


that was a typo, steuben, Out of the other people with red starts, i would have to say, your the nicest, abit rude, but not as much as the other two (Not including acraig

Now, Just to make it clear, my Project is PRE-production, we are working on gameplay and working on the engine. The Programing Department Leader, has adviced agenst using Crystal Blue, becouse of the lack of features such a shading and such... we\'ve decided on a diffrent one. OH and acraig, i will Give you a buzz (everyone if they like) when we have a playable version out, but it will be a whil. Like i said, we are post-production.... :p It\'s pre-production... ^_^ It was a joke (The post -Production)

and last thing, Moogie.
For a mod, your again (Like many above) are rude. and closing a topic, just becouse you don\'t agree with what the person has said is just a sad thing to do.

I havn\'t replyed to any of what the normal members have said (Only people with the red stars) as My  post was for the Dev Team. For a game based on the Community, so acraeg says, There are alot of Rude people in places of power, who don\'t like it when people give opions.

and again, I know my first two posts were very cocky, and aragent, and I\'m sorry.



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Technical Help: IN GAME bugs (after loading world) /
« on: September 07, 2005, 01:36:37 pm »
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Also this second point means that although I actually agree with some of the points you raised I do not see the point of listening to someone that has to resort to insults, because if you were at all sorry there is clearly marked EDIT POST button.


But that\'s the thing, i typed that before i posted, I looked over the post, and couldn\'t find any other planeShift in the post...And it was only becouse i typed it ONCE that i said that. I was not Insulting anyone.

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I would like to suggest that you follow your own point and at the very least spellcheck.

hey look at that, No Spell Check on the forums...

If there were spelling mistakes, They were typo\'s... And people who make a big deal about spelling mistakes/typo\'s are mostly people who  can\'t think of anything else to say....It\'s a fact of life that people can\'t spell, People may not have been able to learn that skill when in school, there are Adults who can\'t spell alot of words...and it is a lagit Sickness.

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If you don\'t bother reading the manual, it\'s your decision, but do you set a machine into working without looking into the manual to find out how it works? Planeshift is like some machine, but it has more controls, more options and more possible traps than most consumer machines. So, either learn the game the smooth way or the hard way, but don\'t complain that you don\'t get it to work.

Planeshift is a GAME, Not a Machine. games have Manuals, But Not everyone reads them, I\'ve played games with people who didn\'t know how to do something when it was plainly in the Manual, but that is the only thing they can\'t do, and most of the time, it\'s something that isn\'t easy.
MMO\'s are not ment to have such a steep learning Curve. take any game, Sometimes the Controlles are totaly diffrent from what your used to, but share some of the same Ideas, and can be learnt by simple Button Bashing...Not with this game.

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This game is in progress. Sound quite easy, but has an important effect:
How often do some companies develop games and after the release see that there is a wrong balance in numbers, thrength, diffculty or other things. That\'s what alphy and pre-alphy stages are ment for: To give the developers some feedback as to what works, what sould be made better and what doesn\'t work. You can\'t really concentrate on character creation without considering what effects it has on the gameplay. So you have to do it and some parallel way.


Well, alot of games do that, Final Fantasy XI did that, they relised they made one job to powerful, and changed it.
Alpha stages, are INturnal, with some Extrenal people testing, NOT EVERYONE. This game is Public Avaliable, Meaning that it would be at least in Open Beta, which it clearly isn\'t.  Charater Creation should be one of the first things an MMO should have done. and not left HALF done. Like it currantly, There is what? a total of 6 mabey 8 Models for all their charaters MALE and female? There should be atleast TWO diffrent Models for each race, Unless a race dosn\'t have a gender, in which case, only one would be needed.
Nothing that i saw in the Charater Creation Effects the Gameplay at all. If anything It would Imporve the Game Play, fixing..Or in this case Finishing, the Charater Creation System would do NOTHING to the game rather then allow diffrent Looking PCs Into the game. If you are meaning that It will slow their development of gameplay, To quote what the admin said about the Guild thing \"...it may help them focus on their structure a bit.\"

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Read the MOTD message on client startup?

Thats not a question, thats a statment. To make it a question there would be \"have you Read the...\"

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It says that characters will be wiped to get rid of old bugs and exploits, and I assume this was also the reason for the last wipe. The time it was done can be discussed on, but you surely don\'t want people complain on bugs that are fixed but still lurk around in one of the characters.

Whil thats all well and good, but wouldn\'t they do that when they make the new patch?
and have YOU read the MOTD (FYI, MOTD, means Message of the Day, It seems that that message has been up for more then a Day, so changing it to MOTM, Message of the Moment, Would be better suited) It says something along the lines of \" charater Bugs, Exploits, and CHEATERS\"

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I think the devs do a good job, and instead of complaining, join them and help them do it better.

I have think they have done a great job, I was just saying what I would have done, IE Fixed the Charater Creastion system to make it work. I wasn\'t saying they didn\'t do a good job, just they shouldn\'t have made the game public, just yet.

And i would gladly join them, if they wanted me...And if i could give something to the team. (E-mail me Dev Team if you want me to help BTW, \'couse, I arn\'t Submitting an Application) And Like i said, I\'m also the Project Directer of a project at the moment, that is in Pre-Production. and everything I\'ve said in planeshift will be the things we MAKE sure arn\'t in our game. IE Charater System (Dev Team, You really need to work on that.)

In closing, I was speaking to the Dev team, Not anyone else, But i am glad that you both tryed and stand up for the game you like, I would have done the same if i were in your possion.

Wow, What a long Message ^_^

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Technical Help: IN GAME bugs (after loading world) / Things i would do...
« on: September 07, 2005, 11:12:01 am »
OK, Not sure if this is the right place for this, but as there dosn\'t seem to be a \"FEED BACK\" section, here\'s as good a place as any.

OK, I\'ve only just downloaded and patched and played for a bit, and I found a few things that i would have done before letting people download and play this, but first, why did i download?

Well, I was looking at that Crystal Blue could do...I looks good, and I thought i would be able to use it for my own project, that i\'m currantly working on.

Now, On to things i would have done/Would do.

Insted Making areas, New monsters, Charater Wipes and the like, I would work from the start, and Work on What people do after they launch the game.

The Charater Creation...It\'s rather ...well, Weird, and I couldn\'t make a charater other then the Blue Rock Thing, Working on the female charater Models would be my first to do. as well as making the Charater Creation as smooth and Simple as possiable...\'couse at the moment, It\'s a pain in the neck, With the Pop up thing when you select a diffrent race, and can\'t select another til you\'ve clicked \"OK\". Then there was screen after screen of Information, that seemed to be going no where... Like your perents and such, If that selection had anything to do with the charater, you might want to tell people. The Job selection was also a pain, Having to select it from the Race screen, it wasn\'t a good move.
Another thing with the Charater Creation, You might also want to make the charater Custermizable ASAP, from all the races i saw, Only ONE race could have any part changed, and that was the eye thingy.

Now moving away from the Charater Creation and In to the Controles.
OUCH....Talk about Learning Curve. I play a number of Diffrent MMO\'s, Final fantasy XI, Matrix Online, Ragnarok Online, and Each one had a Diffrent Way of working the controlls, and they were easy to pick up, Not Planeshift how ever, I spent sometime walking around the town until i found out that the ARROW buttons were for movement and when you hold shift, YOU RUN....and For the Love of me, I couldn\'t figure out how to talk to anyone...and before you tell me to \"Read a Guide about the game\" You\'ve got to relise that not everyone EVER reads guides. I picked up on how to Move, and all that in Final Fantasy With in the first 10 mins of playing the game... But Not for this game, about 30mins and I still couldn\'t figure out How to talk to anyone...

Now on to The Areas.
Arcutecute Wise They were good,  Having paths and such wide enough for mass Transit (Mass Transit = Many people heading to the same place at the same time) but, The Lighting in ALOT of the areas where Very Dodgy...Like that forest ish place...I found my charater becoming BLACK even thought the \"SUN\" was hitting him(or her, I have no clue) and some of the areas (The cave area in that well, in that temple) Thats VERY dark, and i could hardly figure out What was going on, becouse of it. The FPS also slowed up with no one around but a Building...but was in the 60s when near a number of NPC and PC\'s.

The Graphics, One of the Few good things about Planeshift The Textures where ok, and made the enviroment rather nice, just there were a few bugs with the Lighting and the Textures and Such.

The User Interface... Very annoying. Most of the screen was taken up by windows, Info, Chat and That side thingy.
the Infowas the most annoying thing i can think of with the user interface, with the HP and Such HAVING to have the rest of the Useless information there. In battle, people only really care about, enemys HP, Your HP, Your MP (Mana) and thats it, but EXP can be put in, but that dosn\'t matter either way.

The battle system, or lack off more like it. For the Amount of time i was playing, I saw two people fighting and was in one fight my self, I was almost dead by the time i moved close enought to attack back.

Other then those things, It\'s ok...But needs ALOT of work, and shouldn\'t be out to the public until you fix a HELL of alot of things (Charater Models Mainly, and the Charater Creation)

It seems to me, that you rushed it out so people could play before it was even near Player ready, and Whil that wouldn\'t play a factor if you were trying to make it player ready whil people were plaing, it seems that your not even doing that, Well, a little, but you seem to be focusing on the wrong Things, Aiming for New content, rather then Fixing whats Broken, That charater Creation system will come back and bite you on the butt...I can get over how bad it is at the moment.

The Proof of this fact, that you are focusing on the Players more then the programe, is what i read on these forums, That you Deleted all guilds that had UNDER 5 members, There is nothing i can say that would juctife that kind of move this early in the game\'s life (If it\'s more then a Year, You should be a shamed) Look at other MMO\'s and take a page out of thier books, Linkshells in Final fantasy XI can have 1 member (The person who made it) for as long as they want, Like wise with Ragnarok ONline, the only MMO that i know that has anything to do with Another charater in Guild Creations is The Matrix online, which Needs two people, and thats to fit in with the Story (and idea) of the game (Creater of the Crew/Guild is the Captain, and it needs a First mate).

So, My feed back is, Work on what you\'ve got, before you work on new things.

And When you have a Problem such as that AWFULL Crater Creation System, I wouldn\'t Be worring about people who have less then 5 members in their Guild, or people who are Expluting a Bug, or Cheating.

Now, I know that you are doing this for free with no profit, and that just makes my point the more clearer, DON\'T DO THINGS HALF ASSED.

And While My Project is still in post-Production, I think we will be better then This...No Offence to that Comment By the way.

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