I think RP is what makes up this game.  I do not think many people actually like leveling up, but do so to act like "a strong warrior" and be able to back up their claims.

Also a character could instead start with one stat maxed, and I do not think the devs would oppose this a lot since they just maxed out many player's stats in december from what I hear. 

If you like leveling, then there are dozens of other skills and stats to level as well that can keep you busy for a very long time.  This way allows everyone to be happy, and provides a conducive RP environment.

Any input from Dev's??

OOC  talk should be allowed [in brackets of course] in main chat.  sometimes it is just necessary.

gotcha thx

okay, how do I get into IRC?  I think I downloaded Mirc, but can't connect to the planeshift server.  Can someone give me a step by step of how to do that?

We are a very chaotic evil guild that enjoys causing chaos by stealing, killing, and any other ways.  We live freely and not under the laws of the government.  Why this guild and not others?  Because we are more active and chaotic.  We role-play, or try to, evil things all the time. The is unlike other evil guilds who say "hey, we are evil" and dont do anything [because the game doesn't let them and they don't RP it].  Our leader is Mortes followed closely by Varic Mortel.

Rules:
1) You MUST follow the Planeshift rules. RPing evil, the biggest ones to watch out for is harassment and kill stealing.
2) You are evil! Act evil! RP evil!
3) You have the liberty to steal, plunder, kill, etc any non-guildmembers
4) Make a name for yourself! Become known as a mean spirited person!
5) Have fun

Our ranks are from lowest to highest:
Spark
Flame
Killer
Creamator
Lesser Demon
Demon
Master Demon
Demon Lord

Our website is underconstruction and the address will be given soon, we hope.  we have temporary forums at:
http://ignisincubae.proboards107.com

Brief summary of the history:
Mortes and Varic, were friends from birth.  At a young age, they were mean. broke every rule they came across, and didn't listen to anyone.  At 15, they both made their first kill together.  They joined a fight gang and grew up a tough, yet to them fun, life.  They met up with more friends along the way.  They created a group who would often go kidnapping or stealing.  Soon they formed the Ignis Incubae guild, which in an old human tongue means "Fire of the Demons".

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