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Technical Help: Problems BEFORE entering the game /
« on: April 11, 2006, 03:11:22 am »
I\'m really not whining and I take exception to the accusation that I am not patient.  I just happen to be speaking about good presentation of a product.

I fully realize the game isn\'t finished and it\'s free.  Why would anyone knowingly pay for an unfinished game?  You need to look at it from the viewpoint of your average (potential?) customer.  I\'d never heard of this game until it came up during a search.  Naturally, the first thing you do is visit the main website and try to download it.  You can\'t really expect anyone to read an entire website and forum before downloading what they already know is an experimental product.  I went straight to the DOWNLOADS section and there is no mention of a new 0.3.014 version there.  It does, however, say this:

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You can get latest PlaneShift version following those simple steps
 ^^ typo, by the way [these]

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2) Click here to get PlaneShift Crystal Blue 0.3.013


Now, any normal person is going to assume that this is the latest version because your site says so and your updater says so.

We can debate how long it actually takes to post a change to a page and get a file on a Mirror, but I\'ll let you have that one.  Doesn\'t matter.  What I\'m talking about is a matter of professionalism, and this is mainly a perception of a potential customer.

You can flame me if you like, delete my posts, ban me, whatever, but I\'m offering intelligent, constructive criticism here.  The simple solution would be to leave the older version on the server UNTIL the new version was ready and the pages were updated.  At least have it available for the automatic updater.  Who would notice?  At least you wouldn\'t have all the people posting about the problems they\'re having.

But as it stands, you have lost the interest of at least two people (a friend was trying it too) and who knows how many others we could have told?

Good luck on your game endeavor.  Who knows, maybe you\'ll be the next EverQuest.  Just don\'t be so quick to dismiss what I\'m saying.

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Technical Help: Problems BEFORE entering the game /
« on: April 11, 2006, 01:19:17 am »
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Originally posted by neko kyouran
not really, no.  new client = upgraded server.   they go hand in hand with each other.

Yes, that\'s exactly my point:  They DO go hand-in-hand, but that\'s not being done.  The server has already updated but the cleint update isn\'t being made available.  I\'m a brand-new player.  I arrive at the website that tells me to \"download this latest version\" and it turns out to be old.  It\'s own updater updates the version, which also turns out to be old, yet the updater tells me that the latest version is installed.  This turns out to be a problem when the game tells me that I\'m not running the correct version.

Now I have to download the entire game again (it isn\'t just a patch) and it takes forever because of the slow servers.  There aren\'t many seeders for the Bit Torrent either.  17 hours is a long time when I have broadband cable with over 3-megabit down.

If the file is on Bit Torrent, how did THOSE people get it?

Bottom line:  It should have been the file posted on the website that I spent an hour and a half downloading (because of the slow server), not the old version.

I have created and maintained several website/forums that offered file downloads and it takes no more than two minutes to change a page and put a link to a new file.

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Technical Help: Problems BEFORE entering the game /
« on: April 10, 2006, 03:18:08 am »
Seems a bit silly to run a server on a version that isn\'t available to download yet.  It\'s going to take me over 17 hours to download the Bit Torrent.

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Technical Help: Problems BEFORE entering the game / Just Plain Idiotic
« on: April 10, 2006, 12:57:41 am »
I downloaded the game, installed it, and tried to launch it.  It told me that it recommended I update, which I did, to version  0.3.013. I tried to join the server and it tells me I have the wrong version of the game for that server.

What the heck?


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