the updater doesnt work for me... all it does when i run it is do the error report thing... then close... i tried recover and everything... hmm... might have to redl ps... oh well i'll wait until someone finds a cure...

yes... something in the database that would record actions... <would have to be a resetting cache as it would become HUGE after a while...> could help because it could be programmed to search out OOC things and warn the guild after like 10 or 50 or something OOC actions and then warn a GM... because every guild has OOC moments... but like one that is PURE OOC would be detected easily... just the programming part isnt...

well i think it is all just misunderstandings... the one thing that has been irritating me is that no one expands on the idea... they just bash it down... the suggestion wasnt meant to limit rp guilds... as i stated... it was suggested to dispose of OOC guilds...


expand...

well for one... i stated the reason like five times... and also... an addon... maybe you could choose more than one class... again expand on the idea dont just bash it down without any thought... and also you were exaggerating the limits of it... donut shop and accountant... what i posted would only apply to the donut shop part... also race and gender... what i posted only applies to the race part... dont exaggerate to make something look bad in part for the other person... it really grinds my gears...

well... with banking... couldnt a sort of altered version of that be used for mail... that'd be nice... a post office thing where you can pay to have something sent to the different cities... maybe to a PO Box that has a magical spell and a password to get into it? and like different payments like for fast medium and slow delivery? like 1 day 2 days 3 days yadda yadda?

Well how about this... when making a guild you must choose a class... sort of thing... like a large list that has the different Trades, races, or reasons... like Mining, Baking, Blacksmith, Klyros, Diaboli, Kran, Hunting, Exploring... all the different IC things... just organized... so like...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j309/RageMcCloud/list1.jpg

and then

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j309/RageMcCloud/list2.jpg

But i dont mean that is all... feel free to suggest more things to add...

rather than becoming just another MMORPG...

just another MMORPG...

seeing as many MMORPG's are not any where close to the purpose of RPG that would mean full of powerlevelers and a few<yet far between> rpers... luckily people get mad when a large group of PLvlers come and this discourages people from PLVLing... yet it will never stop... people will still try to plvl and half*** things because people will never change... that is why life sucks...

You're contradicting yourself.

that is funny because i was talking about two COMPLETELY different things... again... cant think?

Why should that be a problem?  Its not that guild A is better than guild B, its that both guilds may serve a different purpose which are geared toward fulfilling different players' wants.  When I led a clan about like 4 or so years ago for Blizzard games, it was pretty much thought of as the best thing since sliced in-game bread by a majority of those in it.  And do you know why?  Because of the tight-knit and friendly atmosphere.  We didn't try to legislate conduct. We didn't impose RP standards (though we DID have an online RPG "ORPG" running in our forums, much like the "Community Roleplay" section here -- and only for a while.)  If you thought you were better than anyone else there in a game, unless you were in the top 10 ladder ranking, we settled that VERY quick.

again... if you actually understood what i was talking about that would have made sense in coordinance to what i posted... and also... top 10 ladder ranking... who honestly gives a crap if you are better than him... that isnt the point of MMORPG... well it wasnt... it slowly has become who is better than who... which isnt even close to the meaning of RPG... PlaneShift is uniqie <strangely> because it is the same as what RPG really is... like Diablo... considered an RPG because you play a role... but people online only plvl and duel...

yea i figured there would be many more whipes... well i was going to edit what i said but i hate editing after someone else posted under it because many dont read it... but anywho, after i had posted i realized i was on page two. So, i read page one and found something funny...

4)  bugs are probably the primary reason we "testers" are here.  i have seen a quick response at solving them.  and bug hunting seems to be a popular passtime

that is funny, especially since that is the basic purpose of the Explorers Guild! and also on the other numbers listed i agree with them...

also, the fact of trying to make it an RP only game... if you think or it, any video game is RPing... because Role Play... means you play a role of someone other than yourself... well... unless a game is you in your life exactly as it is then it is an RP... anywho, i know what you all mean by RP... it means stuff like in character conversations in the time of which it is set... Medieval... so you dont walk up to someone and say "hey im new to this game, where do i go... is there a newb place or something im lost..." instead "Hello, im new to this city.  Could you help me in finding a place to rest and are there any markets around here?" or something like that... and i think it is fun to do that...

2. The dedication to RP. Some people don't know what RP is, and get bashed right away for asking for help. Roleplaying can be a hard task if you're not a writer, or self confident enough to create full character with a family history and personality.

let me just say... it doesnt take writing skills or self confidence... it takes creativeness<or however you would say that> and possibly resourcefulness<however you say taht also>... i know you said you were pushing it a little under the list... yea... pushing it is a good way to say that lol!

i think RPing is a good addition to any game... it makes you feel more as if you were there for yourself... and as for the other stuff/flaws... they will be gone all in due time...

and the community is very helpful as others have stated...

EDIT: yea pre-alpha sounds too early on in developement...