I'd swear if it'd do any good.  I'll try shouting and stamping my feet instead

THOSE RESERVE PRICES ARE CRAZY.    I URGE EVERY HALFWAY SENSIBLE PLAYER-GUILD TO BOYCOTT THESE "AUCTIONS"

That reserve pricing does nothing to encourage roleplay, it only rewards power-play, power-mining and power-levellers.  This is *not* roleplay, and not where Planeshift should be heading.

XW

Thanks,

The loading problem is fixed now  food.zip has been updated to a fixed version.

I'm still seeing issues with preload models however  -- When preload models is ON, I am having difficulty moving between maps.

In particular, the path through the canyon from gug to bd1 does not render. When I try to enter it, my character is transported (teleported!) back into the gug map, usually on the ramp leading up into the city.

Also, the exit between the arena and hydlaa is unreliable, quite often is not rendered and not crossable, again crossing into the void causes my character to be teleported. 

Both problems have only occurred when preload model is on.  If I turn this feature off, the problem does not happen.

XW

Okay, so now I'm confused.

 I reinstalled planeshift, as an unprivileged user, using the x64 download.   The good news, it's now working, and I can log in 

Unfortunately, my "broken" install, the one that couldn't load iGraphics3d has also started working.     The reinstall was to a different directory, and was carried out as a normal user without root access, so my system libs  can't have been touched.

I ran a diff between the two installs using sha1sum, and they-re mostly identical.   The sha1sums were different however between some of the updated xml files, and the fresh install.  looking a little closer, the xml files were identical, except that the updated ones have the chr(13) carriage return (^M) in vi. 

There were differences in psclient.cfg, but that's to be expected -- mainly that the older install had extra stuff like my userid/password and a load of window positions in the config.  Also an increased buffer size for alsa.

Anyway, seeing as how both are working, I'm back to using my original, updatered install.   

XW

Hi,  thanks for the reply -

Nope, this one seems to be specific to the new planeshift update.

My PS install was working fine with 0.4.00(1).   ldd of the psclient.bin shows that all libraries are matched up, none ar missing.

When the update is added, it falls over (going back to a fresh install of 0.4.00 allows the client to load).

XW

There now follows something of a rant, but all very valid points, so please bear with me, and apologies in advance if my writing is a bit all-over-the-place.

New players need a way to make signficant amounts of tria more easily.   Crafters need an easier way to sell and to find buyers for their wares.

The game mechanics, are contributing to a huge problem here.  New and nearly-new characters can't possibly afford to buy crafted weapons, and crafters can't afford to slash prices, even on "low" quality (Q100-200)  items.  It takes way too much time and tria to create a weapon.

It takes even more time if you work your own ores into steel, or even more tria if you purchase readymade steel from a metallurgist.

The crafter price needs to be high as a result of all the time and work involved.    The npc buying price is quite frankly a joke.  167 tria for a crafted sabre?  You must be having a laugh.. that just ain't gonna happen. 

The only way somebody can actually afford to learn crafting is through developing a higher paying skill such as mining.   Whoops, there goes another obscene amount of time, because it takes bloody ages to actually mine any significant amount of paying metal, in this case gold or
platinum, because all other metals are prettymuch worthless as for-sale items.

I find the dev's disregard for player's time in this matter to be shocking.  It gets worse however.  The dev's don't seem to recognise this as a problem, and there are actually certified idiots around who think the current situation is acceptable.

The current game mechanics are unreasonable, and very damaging to roleplay, and indeed to the game as a whole.     How many players have been lost, not because of bugs, but because it is too time consuming to play the game, to make tria and develop your character. 

I believe that there are tens (hundreds?) of thousands of inactive characters who have had no choice but to leave the game,  not because of bugs, but because of the broken mechanics and excessive demands on RL time.  I also believe that this number is not likely to stop growing any time soon.

RP should be encouraged, but for good RP to develop, the game needs players to stick around.  As things stand at the moment, there is only a small hard-core of players who can afford to spend the kind of RL time that is required by PS presently.

XW

I agree that an overburdened char should be able to move, albeit very slowly, and possibly costing extra stamina.

It's not the players fault that the run to BD is so excessively long.  We shouldn't be punished so severely for taking the short cut back.  Maybe there should be a toll gate at the BD, allowing one to teleport back to hydlaa or oja for a fair but affordable fee?

I think hough, you're missing my point on the curse.. If I lose too many stats by dying, either accidentally, as part of a RP, or even on purpose, I'll just not be able to play the game.

When I get out of the DR, I will sit down somewhere, not necessarily because i'm overburdened, but because the low stats make my char useless for a time.   In this case, there's the chance that I'll stick around and chat in my guild, but much more likely is that I will stay logged in, sit my char down, and in real life, go watch a tv program, make a cup of tea, do some studying - anything but gameplay.

All the curse is doing is detracting from the ability of chars to play the game, and if it is allowed to continue IN ANY FORM, it will cost the game players. Planeshift already takes too much RL time to play, the curse is just making matters worse.

Hello,

Just wondering...  how goes the upgrade*..

...Is the server likely to be back soon, or is it now going to be out of action for some time?

XW

*edit* -- it *is* an upgrade right?, or are you repairing something?