does the bank do anything else besides tria. I have yet to manage to store any items on it.

I just finished reading through the post.  While I agree that the awarding of guild houses to those that promote roleplaying, would promote roleplay on the server, I found the text to be worrisome. Maybe I am wrong, but there seemed to be an implication that those that have a guild house at this point will be losing said guild house, for no other reason than you want to change who gets guild houses and make the change retroactive. I find this worrisome because it would imply that the current leadership of this game world doesn't see the value of honoring a contract. Those guilds that managed to achieve the acquisition of a guild house, had the expectation of having entered into a contractual relationship. That the characters and the guild have managed to acquire private property.  And that they have the expectation that the authorities will live up to their legal obligations. Now the players of course do not have a contractual relationship. It is the characters in the gameworld that do. The setting of the game by its nature and design has assumed the position, that the cities of the world have a working government. And that with this comes the expectation of the rule of law.

This expectation of the rule of law has further been strengthened by the creation and posting of the law's concerning combat within city limits. And the use of a jail for those that break this law. Without the rule of law all you will have is anarchy.  And the laws that are in force need to be consistent and applied equally to all. To do otherwise is to invite disaster.

The stated goal of this project is to create an immersive world where people can create characters and assume roles. In order for a world to be immersive it has to be consistent.  So to maintain consistency in the world must have a coherent set of rules, not only in terms of what characters are allowed to do or not do, but it must also have a consistent set of rules governing the characters relationship to the world itself. And this includes any interactions with those playing said governmental operatives. So if you want to promote roleplaying, you have to keep a stable framework upon which to build. Because in order for one to assume a role, one has to have a firm understanding of the enviornment that the role will be played in. Once the world is a stable framework then, you can add incentives. But your incentives must not violate the world framework or you will sabotage your own efforts.

I suggest that you study the works of Hans Herman Hoppe, Ludwig Von Mises, Bastiat, Adam Smith, John Locke, FA Hayek, Murry Rothbard. They can give you the foundation you need to create a stable society.

In closing, Keep your rules simple. Apply them equally to all. And support the role of liberty and inalienable rights. Private property is the foundation for everything else. And the characters need a world where, you have the rule of law. The only legitimate purpose of a state is the protection of liberty.

I was looking at a similar idea. Check out this post. http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=27035.0. In it i discuss blueprints and a way to look at the crafting of weapons and other items.

then based on that the best thing to do is to remove the delete button. If a player really, really wants to give up on a quest let them petition a Gm to, delete the quest. This would keep new players from using that button and causing unneeded frustration.

Okay I can see where that could be abused. Of course one way to deal with that is that a reset is as it should be a reset. All items, tria etc that is made during a quest are removed as well. This would remove the potential for abuse. After all what I am talking about is a way for a player/character to back out of a quest. We know that if you are in the middle of a quest, you don't want to take another quest cause they can interfere with each other. And sometimes you just can't figure it out, but might be able to later. This would let you back out of a quest so that you can head in a new direction and if you decide later you can go back and try the quest again. In the case of a multi quest ( or chain of quests, you reset the quests in reverse order so you don't delete a quest that is a pre-requiste to a quest your on until that quest is reset or deleted.

And of course the final option is to remove the delete button so that you can't just delete a quest, but have to ask that it be deleted or reset. My point is that if your going to allow quests to be deleted they then you should be able to later do them and all positive results should be removed upon deletion.

Mythyndel what we have now is a cross between a skill based system and a level based system. Again its using experience points to provide advancement. And there is no relation between where you gained the exp and where its spent. My favorite example of avoiding the exp trap is the game RuneQuest by Chaosium, and then later released by Avalon Hill and Chaosium. It use % values on all skills, and you only got to roll for advancement on those skills that were successfully used. So no matter how many times a character used his sword to kill the local baddies, he would never get a roll to advance in sorcery. Here I go out and kill 100 trepors, maybe mine a little bit for cash and boom I can now buy training in crystal way. Do you see why that is just wrong. I have no problems with practicing the skill after I buy the training. That is what they did right. Just get rid of exp points. Train, self train, practice. That is all that's needed.

Caarrie Yes I realize the recoding the advancement system would be involved but it wouldn't need to be a case of starting from scratch. A lot of what is there is good. Its just the exp that needs to be removed.

1) Training -- use cash to pay for the training points (x number of trias = 1 training point), and allow use of the skill to provide for self training. Say 10 practice points {using the code for creating practice points that already exits} = 1 training point. Thus a character can advance slowly on their own or more quickly if they pay trainers to train them. (the number of practice points to create the training point [what you currently use exp (pp's) for in training] can be adjusted to create the proper balance.)

2) Practice -- No need to change this code at all.

3) Stats -- Define activities that would provide practice points just the way you have activies for the skills, so that stats can be trained up without the need for exp points just like the skills.

This would resuse most of the existing code and decouple the use of one skill to raise a totally unrelated one.

System -- Gentoo
Kernel 2.6.22
Video Card Nvidia Geforce 5200 FX

When using nvidia-drivers (kernel module and glx) version 169.09 I get vertical stripes in some textures and in the displays of magical effects.
nvidia-drivers (kernel module and glx) version 100.14.19 works just fine.