i see so we cant ask where things are only ask general questions, well its not the best way to know something but i geuss it works.

Think more of,, feel free to ask in game thats where the game is,  Here is more for bugs or suggestions for the games actual mechanics. its not a walkthrough, that as I said is in the game.  What you get here is the comunity sharing the OOC aspects of the game.

In the end why ask someone something here and then try and decipher their meaning when in game there is nearly always someone willing to show you.

This a serious issue among the crafter while I think that Tutoned started this in the wrong tone, I can understand his frustration.

Absolutely,  I agree,  A day or so before he posted the original post I (Ragnom ebbes) spent at least an hour mining and learning what he had to offer along side him (Tutoned) I found him to be curteous and freindly and was suprised at the way the post came across,  I understand his upset but I also see that (and while its not a big boon) he and all other crafters are getting some benifit, I see the upset at lossing quality on the high specced weapons but is anyone complaining about gaining quality on low specced weapons?? I know this does not make up for the bug but remember it is just that a bug, I doubt result we are seeing is intentional and as with all things planeshift I urge we just hold fire untill we get a confirmation that it is intended to stay this way.  The bug has been mentioned it is no help to keep harping on about it, better to try and suggest an alternative.

I fired up today to find Everything black other than my character, I droped out of the game to windows closed the game and the restarted to find the problam had gone. the weird thing is I was not where I had been when I logged out last ie at the library rather at the spawn point in hydlaa you start at after the DR.

Sorry not sure if this is the right thread it just seemed like it could come under the same issue.

BTW FX5600 X 256 meg nvidia AGP card with the latest drivers and p4 3.0 with 1 gig of 3200ddr ram on XP pro  old but still does the job,  Also this is the first issue I have had like this.

I see your logic, and it is working its magic on me.  I still would worry about the potential for a mass assault to cause issues, eg target prioritising, I always consider the worst case scenario due to the fact that in the end if it is possible cause a problem most times there is someone wanting to do it (just like cheating always 1 bad apple). I agree that currently the NPC client must see a certain amount of stance changes and even movement,  or the rats through to the Ulbernauts would not target and attack any given player let alone follow them. But I would then querry is it to be an active scan for these stance changes, Does the NPC client have a routine to search for this, or is it going to be reactive does someone have to inform the NPC client, "Excuse me guard there is a fight over there>>" which sets off the routines. And again how does the guard differentiate between attacker and defender if someone was being mugged,  I know I would not stay in defensive stance if I felt I could over power the attacker and put an end to the fight. 

This leaves, however, the messages sent to non-guard NPCs, like rats. Right now, NPCClient likely just drops all fight messages (but already has to check against the list of what to drop), whereas in this case it'd have to filter them by NPC. Still, given that selective dropping by NPC wouldn't require that much processing (if (NPC is not a guard) then drop message), that NPCClient is designed to be independent, that NPCs are still perfectly fine with a response time in the decisecond range,

As for the npc's already just drop the combat stances, I wouldnt know I have not been invovled in the scripting of their AI, I would wonder if they even "see" the combat stance messages potentially this could all be client to client, just like I pick /tell is, I imagine that does not go to the NPCCLIENT unless its /tellnpc.   I would envision that if my character was to change stance then it would be issued from my client to the server and then directed from the game server to all those in a given radius of myself.  As such it never goes to the NPCclient.  My location however would and different NPC's then act as their AI would dictate. I would also go so far as to say taht when the NPCclient is down we still see combat stance changes hence my claim is they are totally independent of the NPCclient.

This is only a guess and definately not an educated one at that so developers feel free to jump in and correct me.

BTW not having looked at any of the coding  (My wife will kill me if I start playing with yet another game) feel free to tell me to shut my mouth untill I have looked at it.

it seems to me that if the server crashes there is a period of time where we get a ping register but the server has not fully restarted, so  if this happens give it 30 secs or so and try again,  remember when you load up the game is it and instant thing or  does it take 5-10 seconds to boot up my guess is that the server is doing the same thing.

I have looked at this post 4 times and started to reply at least twice before now,  the idea that first jumps to mind is a printing press, whih I dont believe would have existed in this sort of time frame, the second thing the hits me is if you are making good tria from these books it is partially due to the fact that you have to pen each one individually, making each one unique and creating a limited supply. being able to mass produce these books means there value would ultimately decrease.

Finally and this is where I think the idea fails is what then is to stop me from taking your book and going to the mage and ripping a few copies to sell or maybe the craft books I could copy them and flick them off,  sorry I feel the idea would be too easy to abuse others work.

But this is my opinion and only that the game creators could quite easily feel very different to me.

Why change the value  of the pick even,  If my memory serves me right a pick is worth about 80 tria trade in so taking that into account with the first basic couple of quests if a new player chooses not to mine and wishes to go straight to weapons training they can sell their pick and get some tria towards something else. in the grand scheme 80 tria is not really a big deal and its not going to upset the balance either (IMO)