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General Discussion / Re: Vegetarianism Within PS, Pros and Cons
« on: October 07, 2007, 06:01:30 pm »
There seems to be some folks out there who think that there were no vegetarians in Earth's medieval period.  I observed the expression of opinions that such primitive cultures were not thinking about the ethics involved in making the decision to not eat flesh.  I wanted to show that not only was vegetarianism an established cultural norm during the medieval period, but well before that also.

It would not be out of setting to RP an vegetarian in the medieval-normed world of PS.  There seemed to be some conflict regarding that statement and I wanted to cite evidence in support.



It says its medieval but look at its society. They have a complex political structure and scientists that seem to go way beyond that. Ylikum is a much more civalised society than medieval earth.
This ignores the pockets of "civilized" cultures that were even more civil that most of the 21st century Western world.


The settings dept has placed PS in a medieval period, on Earth during that period, you were lucky if you ate at all let alone have a choice in what to eat.

This was not the case before the series of barbarian pastoralist invasions in BC times, especially in South East Asia.  Remnants of that Golden Age survived into the medieval period, just not so much in Western Europe.


If you think about it, in medieval timeframes they didn't really worry about it. Food is food, if it keeps you alive, you eat it. As an off note, people would need the fats from the meats for their energy :)

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I am no vegetarian, not to mention no vegan. So I may be wrong, but arent those people blaming the exploiting industry to torture animals, thus denying consume?
If so, hows about that in PS? I never read or heard about it.

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In the stone age people were most likely incapable of the intellectual art of moral philosophy I'd say.

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I just wonder if people in some imaginary original state, slightly comparable with the stone age or so, would have felt mercy as well?
Neolithic = first non-nomadic, agrarian societies = likely first vegetarians

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General Discussion / Re: Vegetarianism Within PS, Pros and Cons
« on: October 07, 2007, 12:44:18 pm »
Remember -- this also means no wearing of leather armor or other leather items. The exception is death from natural causes.

Here's a RW example of an old-way, leather-clad vegetarian:

OMG WTH BBQ batman! that's a long link address that makes neko's brain hurt because you didn't prevent it from making the page scroll to the right


Eating meat is a relic of the Ice Age. 

Ten thousand years or so ago you could not grow enough edible plants to sustain your tribe, but you could find edible grasses for a herd of four-legged herbivores.  Your flock would harvest the green solar energy and metabolize it into something a human could process, and your Priest would give thanks to your male-chauvinist God(s) of mortal combat, thunder and mountains as you slaughtered the sacrificial lamb.

Skip forward a few thousand years and the ice begins to recede and equatorial zones become habitable by agrarian civilizations.  Priests AND Priestesses make a careful study of the movement of the stars, plants, sun and moon, and develop a reliable system of farming.  Vegetarianism and veganism (and Goddess worship) become part of the spirituality of some tribes (a tradition that is carried on today by Yogis and other holy women and men, and can be traced back though time in the manuscripts of medieval alchemists, kabalists, and other practitioners of the Art).  Five thousand years of relative peace ensues during which the violent conflicts that did break out were non-existential and non-genocidal.

Then come the barbarian hordes out of the still-glacial far north and south, intent on creating a Master Race through genocide, and on stealing from the peaceful agrarians the finer things in life that their own cultures are too stunted to produce.  But that is a story for a different thread.  Perhaps one about the 1940's.

So there is plenty of RW basis for primitive vegetarians.

With all that said, I would not recommend pandering to PETA just yet.  The Ice Age isn't over, its just in the middle of a 15,000 year recession.  Your Great^500 Grand Kids will readjust to a mostly carnivorous lifestyle or face extinction.  Lets hope they haven't devolved the ability to digest animal proteins thanks to certain well-meaning but short-sighted ancestors.

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