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General Discussion / Re: You Might Be An Oldbie If...
« on: August 02, 2024, 08:29:05 pm »
You might be an oldbie if this thread started much later after you left PS. 
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General Discussion / Re: Let's get ancient players back...
« on: April 19, 2024, 08:07:01 pm »Oh hey there. A few more names I recognize. Hi. o/
For what it is worth, I imagine the "migration" is a reference to migrating from the old engine (crystal space?) to the new one, Unreal.
However, I too felt like the forums being slow wasn't a great sign. But that feeling might only occur to those of us that are used to the forums being more active. Players that started while it was slow and older players that never engaged on the forums might not think much of it.
However, it is nice to see people here again. I wish some more folks would pop in for a hello...
Hi back!
Ah, I see now. I misunderstood the "started out" as how PS started, but it just means it was a long migration, I guess.
Yes, I also have the feeling that forums are starting to become a thing of the past. Now, chat systems like Discord are replacing them, even if it's more a real-time conversation system like the old IRC than a forum.
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General Discussion / Re: Let's get ancient players back...
« on: April 14, 2024, 11:45:44 am »
Hi there!
And nice to see a (very) few familiar faces!
It's a good intention, and a few good points have already been made by other posters above.
The question of why people leave and whether we should try and get them back is a recurrent one. There have been squabbles, yes, but people also went to other games, moved on to other passions, saw the atmosphere change and decided it wasn't what they were looking for any more, and so on.
When I was first here, there was very little game mechanics (except collecting crystals, if that still rings a bell), and most of what we did was roleplaying. Then the whole game was revamped and looked completely different. It also went through a very unstable phase, which was the final push for many fans. I'm sure the next generations saw other changes and had their own reason to move on. What matters is that new generations keep coming and bring fresh air in the community.
Something I notice, whenever I happen to come back and peek at this website: it's almost abandoned. Most of the subforums haven't been touched in years. I know there's a Discord, but it can't replace a forum and will feel very different to old-timers. The forums, which were the primary point of contact, really give the impression the project has closed - that's what I first thought months ago when I went by and logged in, and it's only after looking deeper that I saw the activity had moved elsewhere. I'm not sure how many will take the time to look and register on a real-time chat platform like Discord.
The fact the login cookie expires after 1 hour only is also quite off-putting and unnecessary.
But who knows? If you throw a message in a bottle, chances are people who still have that email address will feel a pang of nostalgia and check in, just to see if other past friends do the same. I doubt they'll go as far as trying the game, though (I have no idea if it's stable and easy to set up).
FWIW, I corrected a few things in the "letter". Of course, some of it should be adapted to the timing if such an email were to be sent (for ex, it's not the beginning of a new year any more). I'm also a little confused about "what started out as a migration project", because that's not at all what I remember PS being back then, in 2003 (granted, I'm not the oldest around). What migration?
I would definitely NOT try to get hold of people's email address, as it's against the law, at least in European countries. Just seeing that makes me want to quickly change and give a fake email. Please, just don't even think about it.
Cheers
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Dear friend,
It has been a long time since you last ventured to Yliakum, and much has changed since. What started out as a migration project over the years finally became a new version with plenty of new content:
Download it, meet old friends again, and make new ones - or enemies, for two things will never change: PlaneShift is Fully Free to Play, and RP-oriented.
See you soon!
The PlaneShift team
And nice to see a (very) few familiar faces!
It's a good intention, and a few good points have already been made by other posters above.
The question of why people leave and whether we should try and get them back is a recurrent one. There have been squabbles, yes, but people also went to other games, moved on to other passions, saw the atmosphere change and decided it wasn't what they were looking for any more, and so on.
When I was first here, there was very little game mechanics (except collecting crystals, if that still rings a bell), and most of what we did was roleplaying. Then the whole game was revamped and looked completely different. It also went through a very unstable phase, which was the final push for many fans. I'm sure the next generations saw other changes and had their own reason to move on. What matters is that new generations keep coming and bring fresh air in the community.
Something I notice, whenever I happen to come back and peek at this website: it's almost abandoned. Most of the subforums haven't been touched in years. I know there's a Discord, but it can't replace a forum and will feel very different to old-timers. The forums, which were the primary point of contact, really give the impression the project has closed - that's what I first thought months ago when I went by and logged in, and it's only after looking deeper that I saw the activity had moved elsewhere. I'm not sure how many will take the time to look and register on a real-time chat platform like Discord.
The fact the login cookie expires after 1 hour only is also quite off-putting and unnecessary.
But who knows? If you throw a message in a bottle, chances are people who still have that email address will feel a pang of nostalgia and check in, just to see if other past friends do the same. I doubt they'll go as far as trying the game, though (I have no idea if it's stable and easy to set up).
FWIW, I corrected a few things in the "letter". Of course, some of it should be adapted to the timing if such an email were to be sent (for ex, it's not the beginning of a new year any more). I'm also a little confused about "what started out as a migration project", because that's not at all what I remember PS being back then, in 2003 (granted, I'm not the oldest around). What migration?
I would definitely NOT try to get hold of people's email address, as it's against the law, at least in European countries. Just seeing that makes me want to quickly change and give a fake email. Please, just don't even think about it.
Cheers
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Dear friend,
It has been a long time since you last ventured to Yliakum, and much has changed since. What started out as a migration project over the years finally became a new version with plenty of new content:
- Since April 2023, Planeshift is running on the Unreal Engine.
- New locations with new NPCs and new quests.
- A dungeon filled with traps and treasure.
- Crafting improvements.
- Everything simply looks a bit nicer - except that players still want the Legacy transport pterosaurs back - they simply looked more impressive!
- And so much more, check news for all details: https://www.planeshift.it/news
Download it, meet old friends again, and make new ones - or enemies, for two things will never change: PlaneShift is Fully Free to Play, and RP-oriented.
See you soon!
The PlaneShift team
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General Discussion / Re: You Might Be An Oldbie If...
« on: November 19, 2020, 10:31:54 pm »
Time is playing tricks in these forums. Sometimes a tick is one day, sometimes it's 6 months. Or more. 
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General Discussion / Re: Hail, long lost community!
« on: September 19, 2020, 10:13:01 pm »
Wibble, WiseKran! 
Always a pleasure to hear a Molecular Blue fan who hasn't forgotten about this place!
Always a pleasure to hear a Molecular Blue fan who hasn't forgotten about this place!
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General Discussion / Re: Molecular Blue UE...
« on: December 14, 2019, 07:08:17 pm »If you were to give us a client similar to MB, where it is just Hydlaa and no distant traveling with crystals to hunt and other players to roleplay with, I'd be on patreon in a heartbeat. Some of us want to relive nostalgia during the conversion.MB \o/
Someone did host an MB server shortly after CB was released, not for long but it was funny to see how nostalgic people from that era were (or still are)!
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The Hydlaa Plaza / knock knock
« on: July 13, 2019, 08:47:02 pm »
Usually I'd stop at the tavern first. I knocked at the door but the place was apparently closed, it's been for ... yikes! so long? Hm.
So I walked past it and went straight here instead, hopefully there are a few familiar faces. There are definitely friendly faces, I'm sure, it's always worth stopping by.
And yet, so many travels, such long journeys. So, yeah, time has passed since I last stopped by. Again. But I do recognize the place, even if bits have changed here and there. New buildings, missing crystals.
So glad to see Hydlaa Plaza is still there, so relieved there's still a home to come back to!
Now let's see if the ale still tastes the same...
Hey friends, how are y'all doing?
So I walked past it and went straight here instead, hopefully there are a few familiar faces. There are definitely friendly faces, I'm sure, it's always worth stopping by.
And yet, so many travels, such long journeys. So, yeah, time has passed since I last stopped by. Again. But I do recognize the place, even if bits have changed here and there. New buildings, missing crystals.
So glad to see Hydlaa Plaza is still there, so relieved there's still a home to come back to!
Now let's see if the ale still tastes the same...
Hey friends, how are y'all doing?
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The Hydlaa Plaza / Re: Forum Private Messages: Your History
« on: September 18, 2014, 08:50:43 am »Good to see you around
I'm tempted to swap skin with an enki too. Curious to see all the new features that were added, erm, "soon" 9
The Hydlaa Plaza / Re: Eugenics
« on: September 16, 2014, 07:30:23 pm »
Ah but the Internet also allows us to find the paper behind the sensational headlines
Hum, it looks more serious *gawks at the tables and beautiful graphs*
"articipants completed the Trier Social Stress Test (Kirschbaum et al., 1993) to induce acute psychological stress. Briefly, this standardized laboratory stressor consisted of a 5 min impromptu speech on a given topic followed by 5 min of mental arithmetic, performed standing in front of a microphone before a panel of two (one male, one female) judges and a video camera."
That ought to do it
More seriously, it is quite interesting and, well, tempting. That should be the "soft" version of the gene switching, surely offering less possibilities but yet a safer practice we should acquire to reduce the common problems.
Hum, it looks more serious *gawks at the tables and beautiful graphs*
"articipants completed the Trier Social Stress Test (Kirschbaum et al., 1993) to induce acute psychological stress. Briefly, this standardized laboratory stressor consisted of a 5 min impromptu speech on a given topic followed by 5 min of mental arithmetic, performed standing in front of a microphone before a panel of two (one male, one female) judges and a video camera."
That ought to do it
More seriously, it is quite interesting and, well, tempting. That should be the "soft" version of the gene switching, surely offering less possibilities but yet a safer practice we should acquire to reduce the common problems.
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The Hydlaa Plaza / Re: Eugenics
« on: September 16, 2014, 06:36:05 pm »http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/new-study-reveals-that-you-can-upgrade-your-genes/
Not sure what to make of this. To each their own beliefs until proven otherwise I suppose?
Jon Kabat-Zinn had already mentioned during the seminar he gave at Google a few years ago, that after several weeks of meditation, "people could show" alterations in the brain from MRI's, mainly a change in "density". I'm don't have the necessary background to interpret this and decide whether it's marketing, personal belief from people practicing full awareness or actual scientific evidence.
In the text of this link, aren't statements like "New Study Reveals How You Can Upgrade Your Genes!" and "After eight hours of mindfulness practice, the meditators showed a range of genetic and molecular differences, including altered levels of gene-regulating machinery and reduced levels of pro-inflammatory genes" revealing that the author wasn't too sure what they were talking about and just wanted to get a shocking title?
It seems to be a common gene expression regulation, nothing as fancy as a genetic mutation, but I could be wrong.
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The Hydlaa Plaza / Re: Eugenics
« on: September 16, 2014, 01:01:24 am »In my opinion, even with a "perfect" dna, we will never be able to live for centuries and this for a reason: each time a chromosome replicates the telomeres get shortened, so the replication process doesn't produce a perfect copy of the starting chromosome. With years of chromosome replication you'll end with telomeres so short that replication is no more possible and that is... well... the end!
Some species don't have this problem, I'm pretty sure it can be re-engineered at some point. There are quite a few other issues as well, it's apparently addressed in Rigwyn's video (I'll watch it tomorrow, looks interesting). That should be the "easy" part. It's the starting point of this thread, really, extrapolated beyond genetic disorders - ageing as a genetic disorder is probably far stretched
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Even not keeping into account this process you should think that our immune system is more related to environmental factors than genetics: the more you are exposed to viruses the stronger your immune system will be. So a perfect dna doesn't imply automatically no diseases.
It can be taught with vaccines.
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But again, even not keeping into account this other issue, and thinking that a perfect dna leads to a strong immune system you have to think that all these "human improvements" don't happen instantly. Moreover you live in a world where everything point toward an equilibrium so the more evolved humans will be and the more the surrounding nature will evolve. This imply that human evolution means viruses evolution: yes, mother nature doesn't watch us while remaining idle!
It's like an eternal arm wrestling with viruses: at some point you believe to be winning and all of a sudden the situation seems in favor to viruses.
Viruses, bacteria, fungi, and free mutations for everyone, and a lot of people everywhere for them to feed, that's probably a tricky part indeed...
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And another thought:will eugenics be available to all people equally? Or some (rich) category will benefits and some other not? Will this lead to wars? If so, you have another factor to prevent overpopulation.Well, we went through that earlier, there's a moral problem attached for sure!
... and I'm surprised nobody mentioned this as another possible way to enhance the gene pool
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The Hydlaa Plaza / Re: Eugenics
« on: September 15, 2014, 08:32:20 pm »
In conclusion it seems that, however we consider this to evolve, we need those messy humans to get more reasonable and empathic.
Let's put this as a safety requirement!
If ageing is also "cured" - not necessarily what was first suggested in this thread:
Or who knows, people might get so bored, so emboldened, so weakened ... so impacted by their accumulated experience that they would end up doing silly things. It would be interesting to see how a human mind can sustain a lifetime of several centuries.
Let's put this as a safety requirement!
On the other hand, maybe a far more advanced disease would evolve and do it's thing. With people dying of starvation, immune systems run down from malnutrition, loads of people and swift transportation, the evolution of the right virus might be akin to throwing a match in a hay stack.
If ageing is also "cured" - not necessarily what was first suggested in this thread:
Or who knows, people might get so bored, so emboldened, so weakened ... so impacted by their accumulated experience that they would end up doing silly things. It would be interesting to see how a human mind can sustain a lifetime of several centuries.
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The Hydlaa Plaza / Re: Forum Private Messages: Your History
« on: September 15, 2014, 08:11:06 pm »Did you have to go back to the MB forum, Cad? I wanted to see the one right after that.
I wanted everyone who didn't see them to realize what they missed :p
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The Hydlaa Plaza / Re: Eugenics
« on: September 15, 2014, 12:46:04 am »Well, why?Exponentials are hard to contain
On top of what Rigwyn already pointed out, even if we could afford a massive departure from Earth thanks to a possible breakthrough, this would still lead to necessary periodic migrations later, from here and every other place human settle. An exponential growth spreading from one central point will make it very difficult for those later migrations to reach a potential settlement where the resources are not yet allocated to anyone else (or depleted).
In short, the system would be unstable, and from a simple thermodynamics point of view, doomed to a certain failure.
It would be quite interesting though, from a political and economical point of view for example. Would we stay in touch? How would all that be organized, legalized? How would evolve the economy once it is not a closed system anymore?
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Technical Help: IN GAME bugs (after loading world) / Re: Crash just after entering world
« on: September 14, 2014, 11:27:47 pm »
Thanks for the tip! I should probably hang out on IRC and ask. I'm just scared, the damn thing is so addictive and I was so proud of my successful attempt at quitting But I must be strong and take my chance, I can't forsake my good ol' faithful other self!
Tried the myplane gizmo, unfortunately I couldn't find my password back - I'm not even sure of which email / account it was linked to, back then. I must say I'm baffled it wasn't wiped out during all this time! (btw, you're probably the only one here I remember so far)
But I must be strong and take my chance, I can't forsake my good ol' faithful other self!Tried the myplane gizmo, unfortunately I couldn't find my password back - I'm not even sure of which email / account it was linked to, back then. I must say I'm baffled it wasn't wiped out during all this time! (btw, you're probably the only one here I remember so far
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