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Complaint Department / Re: Be kind to Newbies
« on: January 13, 2008, 07:19:20 am »
Yeah as to the:

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In answer to the "how the heck do I answer that" question - check your logs, and explain it succinctly

I did that and more, I would be glad to give you my 3 pages (3 pages in vi - linux editor,  only on Toda nobody else in that 3 pages) of logs to browse through to see how thorough I have been.

Actually, I even just recently had 2 seperate players give me the answer they used (and they used the same exact phrase) and still she does not complete the quest. I am thinking at this point this may be a bug/glitch.

*edit*

We seem to be WAY off topic here, I am sorry for this thread getting started here at the end of another and I would move it but I believe a moderator or admin might have to since it involves many users posts.

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Complaint Department / Re: Be kind to Newbies
« on: January 13, 2008, 06:33:21 am »
Actually the name thing would have been a good solution (made more sense anyway), but sadly no. My character name is Beroth Ignoka. I really don't think that is precieved as "bad" per se.

As to the what I have said and replied... I have used every combination of Names of NPC's encountered in the quest, where I traveled to and from, and yes I tried several variants of I am sorry as well as <NPC NAME> is sorry. I even mentioned getting lost! My chat log is seriously 2 or 3 pages of things like:

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(05:07:50) Beroth says: travel
(05:07:52) Toda Ombretis says: No, I do not understand what you say.  Can you say it differently?
(05:08:13) Beroth says: Harnquist had to work on it
(05:08:15) Toda Ombretis says: No, I do not understand what you say.  Can you say it differently?
(05:08:48) Beroth says: simple
(05:08:50) Toda Ombretis says: Hmm.. you are a bit confusing, Tabei.  Can you use different words?
(05:09:05) Beroth says: lost
(05:09:07) Toda Ombretis says: Hmm.. you are a bit confusing, Tabei.  Can you use different words?
(05:09:13) Beroth says: I got lost
(05:09:15) Toda Ombretis says: No, I do not understand what you say.  Can you say it differently?
(05:09:37) Beroth says: Trasok sent it to Harnquist
(05:09:39) Toda Ombretis says: No, I do not understand what you say.  Can you say it differently?

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Complaint Department / Re: Be kind to Newbies
« on: January 13, 2008, 05:45:49 am »
Honestly, if this was a one or two time situation or if I had only tried taverns, this would be not that bad but I have been playing for a month now (on Planeshift but way longer in other RPG/MMORPG's and MUD's) and I have tried at the arena, at Harnquists as it seems to be a good gathering point. I have also tried many single users when I can catch them not in full run. Problem (for lack of a better word) is that single players sitting still are usually either AFK or busy in other screens and don't often see or pay attention to the chat box at these times. As to the groups, they remind me of WoW players... "you are not our level so you don't exist".

These forums are literally littered with posts like "go in game and ask other players in character", "try asking other plyers out of character with brackets [ ]", or "this is not the place to ask that question". With these posts in mind I do just that and get "taunted" as you call it in game, or worse simply ignored by the mass of the group completely.

Don't get me wrong, I love the concept of the game and the in game play is shaping up nicely. Still, when new people have questions and the in game help chanel tells you ask in game and so does the forums and you can't get help in game... something HAS to give.

I don't expect answers to this question here in this forum but as an example, I have a quest from Toda in Ojevada to get her armor shipment. I tracked that down and get back to her with her order details and she asks:

"Thank you. I am curious, though. What took so long? It was a simple enough errand...".

HOW THE HECK DO I ANSWER THAT????? OK, so I start with all the usual suspects (telling her all people I spoke to and all places I went etc....).  NOPE, no way would that work. So can't finish the quests as you must answer that question. Given the AI of the NPC's this answer could be ANY combination of words and NPC names! MY God, I am so sick of being told "I don't understand you, can you use different words?"

With nobody answering in game for days now on even a clue of what she maybe looking for in her answer, and no other clue in the dialog, I am left bitter and simply about to drop this quest. I also feel that if things don't change this is only the first of MANY dropped quests.   

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Complaint Department / Re: Be kind to Newbies
« on: January 13, 2008, 03:37:54 am »
Be kind to newbies is right...

I have been to every congregation of players from Ojevada to Hydlaa and asked more than a few questions in character and out of character (in [brackets] of course). Not only did nobody answer my questions after many tries to get an answer and waiting long amounts of time, I also got the great responses like "what is that THING doing in here" from a cat character in Ojevada. I asked what thing they where talking about and was told "you... fish elf". Well if that is kind to new players, you can have it.

Now I will say that I have had a few real nice players assist me from time to time with directions and advice. Please note that this is NOT the norm... most players either insult you if you ask or in a room of 10 or 12 lpayers (as in the taverns at Ojevada or Hydlaa) you ask a simple in character question like "where might one find <npc name>) and NOBODY answers you after 10 minutes and asking again and another 5 minutes passes by!!! Seriously, if you don't know, how about saying "I don't know". If I walk into a bar or any gathering of people in real life and ask I expect someone to answer even if only to say no. I expect this because I do it myself if I am asked or a group I am in is asked.

I hope many higher level people see this post because you should know... if you don't help new players you will eventually be playing alone and the game will lose all flavor if not shut down! BE HELPFUL!

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Newbie Help (Start Here) / Re: Skills that can/cannot be trained
« on: January 11, 2008, 06:39:46 pm »
 :offtopic:
I appologize for being off topic and I am not trying to antogonize a flame war here but I am seeing A LOT of questions in this thread on *HOW* to use a skill, how to write code/manage resources, and even worse many answers describing how to do either. My thought is that if we can't stay on topic (in this case the topic is creation of a list of skills that can and cannot be used), then we will end up with exactly 1 GIGANTIC post with random posts about everything in no order.I

My 2 cents:
If no topic matches your question/complaint/thought/answer please CREATE one in the appropriate forum, hence the name of this utility we are using (forums). If you are in a topic and have an answer or a question that matches the heading at the top... then you can post freely.  :thumbup:

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Are these crashes (and  intermitten lag) due to heavy traffic? Have you considered clustering (via software or hardware load balancer w/ active failover)? Will Fragnetics allow that and do they support that model?

These are just a few topics that come to mind when I see these kinds of issues. Load balancing or clustering can increase performance and increase connections/network speeds but it takes planning and precision when you start thinking session state (even if only to track logins) and file/data sharing (NFS/SAN/NAS).  I am sure you have alot of these topics on a whiteboard already but I was just curious as to the roadmap for the future because I would love to see this MMO survive when others like WoW fail. WoW is quite poular but the RP is really lacking in that game, and I do believe this platform offers way more to the serious RP'ers.

Cheers

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Technical Help: IN GAME bugs (after loading world) / Re: Missing Items?
« on: January 03, 2008, 06:37:42 am »
hmmmm...

/bag just gives me the response:

Sorry. Unknown command (Use /help)

but I think I know what you are referring to.  Sorry, I didn't think of that window in my previous post.


Problem remains thought, I have lost items and money and I think it is safe to assume that "lag" is not the issue here. I am aware that hardware is not the only cause of lag, network latency, and many other factors can be attributed but as I have stated, I do not see typical "lag" symptoms and the refresh has not brought back trias or items. This is a bit more that just lag I am afraid.

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Technical Help: IN GAME bugs (after loading world) / Re: Missing Items?
« on: January 03, 2008, 06:21:54 am »
Tuxide, re -read, I am saying _IF_ I had lag I would see these problems and I went on to say that I do _NOT_ see these issues which with dual 2.66 Mhz cpus, nVidia FX 6800 and 4 GB ram I really should'nt. Also, as I stated that I have been playing for _HOURS_  I am sure that is enough information to tell yyou that I have opened and closed my inventory many times.

Unless you are the type to run around fighting and navigating with your inventory window open at all times, I have a 20" monitor and can't seem to manage that one well. Even with a monitor that size inventory is still in the way a bit :)

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Technical Help: IN GAME bugs (after loading world) / Re: Missing Items?
« on: January 03, 2008, 05:53:03 am »
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and as far as missing items, server lag has been known to make inventory appear as though items are missing, when in fact all it takes is a refresh or two and they seem to magically be back.

Well, that might have been the case for the trias since I can't say for sure that it didn't "refresh" and show up after I started earning, I doubt it though. In the case of the armor repair kit though, I am still playing (hours later) and still no repair kit has returned. Are you saying I should have to log out and then back in? If that is the case then that is a bit of an issue as nobody will want to do that everytime items dissapear due to lag, and on the other hand if you are saying that I can play for hours and still not see this item "refreshing" in my inventory then that is a bit of a problem as well.

Thinking of the players experience, simply writing this off to lag and refresh issues is probably not the answer a player would want to hear. Imagine mining or fight creatures for a week to get enough drops or trias to buy a nice weapon or armor and then logging off only to log on the next day and find it has simply vanished. Now you ask for help and are told "a refresh or two and they should magically be back". Add to that, as in my case, they don't come back.  This will dishearten players quickly.

Also, typically with lag I should see slow downs, mouse hangs, random character/NPC oddities lik e teleporting, etc... I have not really experienced any of these problems today that I have noticed.

Given these facts, is there anything else that comes to mind with this issue?

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Technical Help: IN GAME bugs (after loading world) / Missing Items?
« on: January 03, 2008, 03:56:51 am »
I do see that this was done intentionally in the past for weapons balancing however I have noticed trias missing and now items.  I had gotten down to 7 trias last week and logged out. As I logged in the next time I noticed I had 0 trias! This would not have been cought except that I had already suspected missing trias previously and was watching as well as the fact that you can't buy ANYTHING for 7 trias. So, I played again and built up some trias and I bought two armor repair kits. I used one and could not use the other and and logged off after putting the last kit back in my inventory slot. I just logged in and NO REPAIR KIT!   


Some background information:

The account is brand new and I have no one that I share my account with so this is concerning.
I had thought I was missing just a few trias as I logged in on two seperate occassions previously.
Since I am currently learning the game I have been writing down items/prices and where to find them as well as training locations.

Can anyone advise on this issue?

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