Maybe they can, but where should a griefer mesh up here? And it's not nuff if you don't explain. 

@ LigH: Achso, danke. Wieder etwas dazu gelernt.

@ Earowo: If you're playing an assassin, you're physically weak. You're fast, silent and so on, but you could never beat a barbarian or every other kind of fighter. With an assassination strike, you're able to weaken you enemy, so that's in my sight, the only chance to  survive in such a fight.

Sure. Just thought a kick/ban thread should do the trick.

Nah thank you but it seems, that i've to try it again.  

I like RP very much, it's fun, relaxing and i can better dive into my characters role. That's not the reason why i want such areas. And i love PVP, i was born in PVP games, loved EVE online a lot (was one of those only 0.0 players, with baaad security ). Well, now you know that i like both. But the fact, that i've to choose here now to play on a RP server OR an PVP server sucks.

So the idea to have PVP areas on a RP server (just take the example with the shorter routes through lawless areas), would do quite well, cause i've both and can truly enjoy my role i'm playing as a trader who risks his life, stuff and wares. Or as the bodyguard who will protect the client with my own. Or just as a scout, observing the situation, level, whatever. And then, the rouges appears! Adrenalin rushes through you, cause you know they could kill you, if they can kill you guards and you pay 'em. Doing RP through the battle should'nt be a big problem for those, who can write a bit faster and observe the rest as well.

You just can get another feeling, like the one i've described, you can get deeper into you role as whatever you are, if you get some adrenalin, you can even truly feel your role. Got it now?  

Oh man... Human beings can be so powerful minded and then, they're sometimes slower than a snail. Sorry, but that's for every crying carebear. Further someone seems to misunderstand the things "discussing" and "constructive criticism". Who really read my posts will understand my view. I can challenge everyone, of course, but being in a PVP area, without rules, where everyone can attack everyone is just another different thing, that would give this game another aspect and more... Something special about it.

The trading example was just, maybe someone knows it, an example. If this idea would be implemented, there could be a save route for carebears and a not so save route for those who want to risk something (or course a route of half the way as the carebear route). If a group of rouges caught a single trader and they're gonna make a RP of it, the trader just can run away cause he don't want to loose all his stuff. Where's there the logic? It's a game and if you want something, then you have to risk something.

When a group of robbers attack a trader guarded by group of mercenaries, in a lawless area, both sides knew the risks about it. Of course they will engage the enemy immediately but that's the reason, why there's such an area. Instead they could do some RP before the fight starts. But fairness afterwards will be definitively rare.

Sh**, i knew that i've forgot something, i've searched other terms. Sorry for that, but now we're here and related to your both posts, i'll answer here. It would just be time wasting for others to go from topic, to topic.

It's a rollplaying game, of course it is. But it's a game, never forget this and most people don't need that much freedom. I mean not that much freedom in a Computer game like this MMORPG. It's like bringing many kinds of people together: Some want intense RP, some want just play, some want 30-70, others 90-10, you know? Including this feature won't take the possible RP event away, it just expands the possibilities for less RP performing players. And this only in the dedicated area and even there, the RP can be performed, it's just a matter of a short conversation before engaging and the fight is "real" instead of RP'd. Well, i'll trying to get deeper into that matter or my sight, however you want to call it.

The main sight is the sight of the customer. The customer wants in general a game with rules and freedom. Both in relation and very well balanced. The fact, that you can make RP conversations, events, fights and more RP stuff everywhere and that's the rule #1 is the rollplaying duty, determines much for RP lovers. But what about players who don't want RP that much? And don't tell me, that they should join the Non-RP server. I generally hate it to separate people, even if they're living in different worlds (but that's my personal sight and has nothing to do with PlaneShift). I feel, that RP begins with a simple:"Greetings stranger, what's your designation, that you're traveling that far?", if he just don't want to chat, he would just write:"/me Ignores the nosy mercenary and moves straight away". In every other case, you can imagine the possibilities yourself. This is possible for every other case and it's still a game, where the merchant can be attacked later on by the mercenary or someone else. Cause it could be possible in a RP session too. And it's kinda real and logic.

The second sight, is the sight of the dev's. A game takes a really heavy payload of effort. Of course, they want something back later on. But will the community grow this much to support everything, only with RP? I don't think so and it's just not economic. Pure RP just don't need a computer game, pure RP just needs imagination. A game can use RP every time, it's fun, it's interesting but a game needs more than only imagination. It needs defined rules, possibilities, laws for the community. You could name it "safety", that's why we want to imagine with this game.

And at least clarify one thing: An idea like this won't take away anything, it adds just a possibility. I hope you get my point of view.

Best regards empty_aka