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General Discussion / Re: Planeshift War
« on: June 20, 2010, 04:07:30 pm »
To be honest, I wish more criminal-types would be a little more... creative.    The hood thing bothers me, since it's extended to the point of ridiculousness: if a character is standing right in front of a hooded criminal, they dang well should be able to see their face, unless the criminal has some kind of face veil on in addition.   A hood that creates sufficient shadow to actually hide your face also almost certainly makes it really freaking hard to see more than five inches in front of you - and forget any and all thoughts of peripheral vision!   

I'll roll with the convention since everyone else does, but it still completely weirds me out.

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The Hydlaa Plaza / Re: The Delightful People on Planet Earth
« on: June 07, 2010, 02:19:36 am »
Most humans kill primarily out of necessity, not for the lulz.  And I know it's a commonplace meme that we're the only ones who ever hunt for pleasure, but that's very hard to prove, since we can't exactly ask other animals what their motivation is  ;)   We certainly don't seem to be the only animals who can get pleasure out of killing, judging from some of the stories we've got about dolphins.

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General Discussion / Re: IC settings on some races?
« on: June 06, 2010, 06:12:25 pm »
Yes, and the language they're really speaking clearly has distinct terms for "hand" and "paw", as many RL languages do  :D

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General Discussion / Re: IC settings on some races?
« on: June 06, 2010, 05:37:38 pm »
It's not as if there's a big division between a paw and a hand; "hand" is just a specialized term for the paws of certain animals (mostly primates).   Enkidukai may call what they have "paws" because when their ancestors were first learning the common language in Yliakum, their teachers took one look at their furry, clawed digits and used "paw" instead of "hand", and the Enkidukai adopted the term as their own.   

They already have quite a bit of specialized vocab, so one more word isn't a big deal. 

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General Discussion / Re: i am confused
« on: June 06, 2010, 04:54:09 pm »
I'm pretty sure the devs just didn't think about it, but to lampshade it anyway: maybe gold just tastes good?   Humans eat quite a few tasty things we either can't digest at all or (more often) can't digest well.   Maybe gold is the Kran equivalent of sweet corn.

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General Discussion / Re: IC settings on some races?
« on: June 06, 2010, 04:45:12 pm »
I think that quest is a place where you just need to say, "Glad I could help, moving on before I think about this too hard."    It's not just that Ylian gloves seemingly fit Enkidukai hands - both a dwarf and a Ynnwn can give their gloves to the character and they'll fit.   Either his hands/paws, like Aslan, grow bigger the bigger you are, or... yeah, let's just move on. 

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General Discussion / Re: i am confused
« on: June 04, 2010, 12:08:07 am »
This really bugs me: why are so many of the race names apparently singular and plural?   Why isn't it Xachan/Xacha, Enki/Enkidukai, Klyri/Klyros, etc.?   

Also really bugs me: why is it "the Laanx religion" rather than Laanxism or something else that's a useful name?   Same with the worship of Talad and Dakkru.   I've seen Xiosian, but I have no idea if that's officially correct or just player-made.

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General Discussion / Re: IC settings on some races?
« on: May 29, 2010, 07:36:39 pm »
What confuses me beyond my mind though is why do we have nipples and belly button?  :@#\

Maybe they tattoo them on, because it weirds the other races out to look at them otherwise  :P

The art on the main races page suggests female Klyros (Klyroses?  That's another thing, why isn't there a distinctive singular and plural for Nolthrir and Klyros?) have breasts, which is stupid on a multitude of levels.  So problems abound.

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General Discussion / Re: IC settings on some races?
« on: May 27, 2010, 06:51:15 am »
I don't think it is mundane. You are asking questions that will eventually enrich the settings of each race when 1.0 eventually makes it debut.

I don't mean that it's mundane in the sense of "unimportant", but mundane in the sense of "things that would be part of our characters' everyday lives", vs. something like, say, the secret history of the Klyros.

On gender dominations, not all animals are male-dominant like humans are. Iguanas and hyenas are female dominant; as if they somehow became sentient races with civilization the males would be the ones staying at home cooking and cleaning while the females would be off hunting or acting territorial. There are also a few species that don't have a dominant gender, wombats was it? Annoyingly enough, although Yliakan races are many, they are not diverse in this regard; it seems like however they differ physically they otherwise act just like humans.

I would imagine many players play their characters as basically funny lookin' humans because that's the type of psychology and social behavior they're familiar with.  It's difficult to find out much about any of the Yliakan races as it stands, and requires a lot of guesswork.

For example: if you cared to, you could extrapolate from the existence of the Ynnwn, and what we're told about their psychology, (that they don't feel inferior for their half-breed status), that: 1) Diaboli, Dermorian and Nolthrir are all very accepting of mixed-race pairings, 2) Diaboli, Dermorian and Nolthrir families would normally not make a little Ynnwn child in their midst feel like an outcast, and 3) Dermorian and Nolthrir families and societies are structured in a way that having a lover or spouse with a much shorter lifespan isn't going to be considered a major problem.   And from #3 you could theorize that because of their long lifespans, Dermorians and Nolthrir really don't consider it a big deal to have many partners over the course of your life.  That in turn would imply a bunch of other things about them, including social structures that are either matriarchal or egalitarian, because you'd have many women with children from multiple fathers, which brings the problems in a patriarchy.   

But that's an annoying amount of guesswork to have to do.   Frankly it would be nicer if there was even a very slapdash listing somewhere of Here's What We're Thinking In Terms of Everyday Theme Stuff Right Now, This May All Change By 1.0, But Just In Case You're Curious Here You Go (TM). 

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General Discussion / Re: IC settings on some races?
« on: May 27, 2010, 05:37:26 am »
While we're throwing out questions about How Things Work, what's the average size difference between males and females of the different races?   In real life, male humans on average have something like 15% more body mass than human females on average, with (IIRC) about 15 cm difference in average heights.   But what's true of humans, and presumably Ylian and maybe Xacha, shouldn't be true of Enkidukai, Dermorians, Stonebreakers, etc.   Is the average menki significantly bigger than the average fenki, like a lion vs. a lioness?  Are male and female elves usually about the same height?  Are female Klyros usually bigger than male Klyros, a la many birds and lizards?   

(While I'm thinking about sexual dimorphism, do different races have different traditions about male and female roles?   Are there racial differences in normal family structure?   There's no way they all traditionally raise their kids in nuclear families.)

TBH I'm more interested in this nitty-gritty mundane stuff than any other part of the theme.

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General Discussion / Re: IC settings on some races?
« on: May 25, 2010, 02:52:13 am »
One way to make Nolthrir underwater speech work is to have it be similar to how whales and dolphins communicate.   Cetaceans push air through their equivalent of a nasal cavity, which they can control, (like we can control the larynx), to produce sounds which then go out through their blowholes.   Nolthrir could have a similar setup, with the sound produced by air from their gills going through a specialized nasal cavity, then out their nostrils.   IIRC the book about music in-game implies that Nolthrir music is whalesongesque, so that would be consistent.   

It would also mean their language would be hard for any other species to speak, though.  So that could raise some theme issues   :-\

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