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In-Game Roleplay Events / Re: Stillwater Peace Corps -wrt- Tragic Wedding / RP events
« on: October 13, 2011, 09:11:26 pm »
So spliting hairs about rules (and of course not following the spirit of the rule) while killing new players and then telling someone that issues they have must be "personal issues" (when it involves a member of your leadership who represents your guild) looks to be about how you operate. We'll leave Kisoji's (who by the way also represents your guild as he's a member) random abuses off this list for now.

Clearly there's no reason to be concerned about you guys abusing killing people at the mines for whatever reason you make up.

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In-Game Roleplay Events / Re: Stillwater Peace Corps -wrt- Tragic Wedding / RP events
« on: October 13, 2011, 08:16:31 pm »
Quote from: Irec on October 13, 2011, 08:07:11 pm
Guardas.

You seem to have things slightly mixed up here. Your guild-member, Gatat, was killing Dlaoys from the Marfu. pit. I then killed Gatat as he entered the Dlayo PvP zone, and afterwards sent him a tell letting him know that killing MOBs inside the arena from on top or behind walls is considered OOC (i know i should have told him about the rule before killing him, and i apologized to him for that). Then all of a sudden you turned up, moved inside the PvP zone to target me and attack with spells, moved back out of the PvP zone and continued casting, died from my spells, accused me of using food (which i did not) and then started a long rant in tell. As i'm reading through my logs i can however understand your confusion about what you thought i meant about OOC behavior. You seem to have thought I meant the Dlayo pit is an OOC area. What you didn't grasp was that I meant your guild member's actions were OOC. The odd thing here is that despite me telling both him and you this, he continued killing the MOBs through the wall. Next time you post a rant or whine in gossip, get your facts straight.

-Irec

No, I did not and if you think I did,  you're very mistaken. I stopped casting the moment I moved out of line of sight.  Exploiting bugs in PvP is wrong and you should know that.

As for your comment about OOC actions,  as I said to Ikon,  considering how many of your people I've seen "exploiting" Guile (and likely you although I haven't seen it) I find that farcical that you'd kill someone else for it, especially someone new.

I really think you need to take your own advice.

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In-Game Roleplay Events / Re: Stillwater Peace Corps -wrt- Tragic Wedding / RP events
« on: October 13, 2011, 07:59:16 pm »
Quote from: IkonRevisions on October 13, 2011, 07:41:31 pm
Well my experiences with you show me that you are in no place to claim to judge our role-play inconsistent. Characters have their own personality and so killing people may look like random acts but more often than not there is likely a reason behind it. Either way one instance with Irec has nothing to do with our group as a whole, as it was not linked to any of our RP events, also that was before things became more organized in the guild.

Also, we have no alliance with the PoC. Ikon is just good friends with Zarre so their actions as a guild are not in anyway linked to our group. As for Kiso causing problem and randomly killing, when he is back a RP event will be made where he is publicly flogged and demoted for his actions that in no way progress the standing of the SPC. Overall, if you approach our RP with good RP on your side as well I think you will enjoy it like many seem to have, however any encounter with your character I have seen just OOC rudeness leak through overshadowing any attempt at quality RP.

I know myself I have killed guile and others at camp banished getting them stuck on objects and the like before but just the same I often kill them if there by walking around while casting. Bottom line it is the only place a leveled character can get any PP and they need to kill while cursed on top of that so I can understand why people do it but I rather see people just walk and cast there as well but again I said I understand killing someone for exploiting not saying I bother to do it myself, I have enough people hating me as it is *winks*.

So now you retract your complaints that we are doing bully rp and now instead say we just do not consistently RP? I think you might be a bit confused on what you actually think of this situation, are you bothered OOCly and letting that effect your in game character more than it should?

Well hopefully that helps clarify a bit, if you are indeed just bother ICly why have you not sought Ikon or Aensor ( the generals besides Irec ) for discussion and try to work a deal or tell them of the actions of their comrades?

Think on it.

Claiming an area is bully RP, especially when your group has some of the highest skill levels compared to others. There's really not much most people can do to you and you know it. Some of your members are not consistent.  These are NOT mutually exclusive

I see no reason to try and resolve OOC conflicts (because that's what Irec terms the Diayo pit apparently) with IC actions. Also before things were organized?  This was as recent as this weekend. My character has no actual problems with SPC (well other than he thinks the claim is a farce like most of the world), I do because of the way some of your members treat newer players.

I'm going to ignore the rest of the personal attacks because they're quite plainly ignorant and you haven't interacted with me at all to know.

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In-Game Roleplay Events / Re: Stillwater Peace Corps -wrt- Tragic Wedding / RP events
« on: October 13, 2011, 07:27:14 pm »
Quote from: IkonRevisions on October 13, 2011, 07:02:25 pm
I know the Irec did kill some in the Dlayo pit simply b/c they were exploiting by casting through walls etc and that by most players standards is worthy of being attacked.

No, that's not what happened.  No one was casting through walls except Irec. Irec killed a lowbie in the pit. Then he killed my character by casting through 4 sets of walls in the arena with daemon arrows and then denied that it was an exploit, along with telling a lowbie that the Diayo pit is OOC and he should expect to die at random. Let's not even mention that the number of SPC I've seen on the tents killing Guile makes you claiming killing anyone for exploiting through walls completely hypocritical.

Kisoji has been a problem in the past as well, yes with completely random attacks (along with Mordas of PoC who I'm told are your allies).

Quote from: IkonRevisions link=topic=40363.msg452415#msg452415
Most of the input we have had from people who strive to play this game as it is meant to be, meaning promoting fun RP, good or bad, has been positive. I believe that if you are so selective in what RP you want to join, this is not the server for you. Yliakum without some controversial groups in my opinion is a bore.
If you're implying that because my review of your actions is not favorable that I don't strive to play the game it was "meant" to be played, then that's simply untrue and rather haughty of you to state. I hope that is not how you meant it.

My issue is not your RP, my issue is the lack of RP and consistency shown by some of your members. Go be "bad" guys all you want,  just be consistent.


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In-Game Roleplay Events / Re: Stillwater Peace Corps -wrt- Tragic Wedding / RP events
« on: October 13, 2011, 04:59:51 pm »
This is essentially bully RP.

I'm normally fine with that, however what I'm not fine with is the lack of consistency shown between your members in the mine situation and other areas like Camp Banished and the Diayo pit.  Multiple times members of SPC/PoC (PoC is lumped in with you because many of your members run with them and have called them in or vice-versa on multiple occasions) have randomly killed lowbies without so much as a word. Others have willfully metagamed with knowledge their characters could not possibly know. Others have point blank told me and others that they don't consider the Diayo pit as In character (which is really bizarre since it's in the game world).

I'm having a real hard time believing that this is really an attempt at RP and things are going as cleanly as you're claiming, given the interactions I've seen in other areas.


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