Why do I need a fully open source one?

Because I won\'t contribute my time and effort to one that isn\'t.  

I don\'t have an issue with you guys being proprietary.  Just clean up your webpage, as it is its confusing- it looks liek you claim its open when it isn\'t.




To answer a point you brought up about protecting the artists \"rights\" if it went fully open source.  What stops code I put out under an open source license (or you guys do- like this game\'s code) from being used by anyone you don\'t want to?  Nothing.  Just like it should be.  If I make a car, I can\'t tell you where to drive it after I sell it to you.  If I make a toaster, I can\'t say you can\'t make begals.  Why should art/code/anything else be different because its \"artistic\"?  It shouldn\'t.

If you can\'t agree with that, I\'d think twice about goign open source on the code.  Someone could take it and use part of it as a targeting system for a weapon.  Or use the networking code as the basis of a virus.  What can you do to stop it?  Nothing.  If you can live with that for the code, why not for the art?  If you can\'t with the code, you ought to reconsider your entire premise here.

ANyways, throwing this game back on the no interest pile.  Thanks for your time clearing this up.

Perhaps that thread should be stickied, then.  But those terms outlined still make this not an open source application.  From http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php, the official definition

1. Free Redistribution

The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale.



Term 2 of the planescape license puts restrictions on copying, thus violates the definition.





3. Derived Works
The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original software.


Term 2 violates section 3 of the open source definition by denying the right to create a derived work.



8. License Must Not Be Specific to a Product
The rights attached to the program must not depend on the program\'s being part of a particular software distribution. If the program is extracted from that distribution and used or distributed within the terms of the program\'s license, all parties to whom the program is redistributed should have the same rights as those that are granted in conjunction with the original software distribution.


The terms of the license which disallow the artwork and code from being used on other MMORPGs breaks section 8 of the open source definition.  




Also as part of the definition, Open Source licenses govern only the REDISTRIBUTION of the contents.  NEVER, EVER, EVER their use.  So section 3 of the planeshift license breaks the open source definition.





As is, this license is NOT a valid open source license, and this app is not an open source app.  

Also, there is no way that they can claim it applies only to the other content, as the other content has nothing to do with official/non-official servers.  Thats a software (code) only issue.

Like I said-  if you want to make a proprietary game with open source components of a proper license (liek Crystal space which is LGPLed and can be linked to by proprietary code), thats fine.  But don\'t claim its open source.

Im curious if the server is open source as well.  I recently come from Shadowbane, where the role playing community attempted to band together on 2 servers.  For a long while we managed to hold off the non-rpers, but its failing.  On Death, only my guild is left as a major rp power.  Its my belief that for rp to succeed in an rpg, the players need to control the server, and be able to kick and ban those who do not conform to the playstyle.  An open source server would do that- people could create servers for all the different playstyles.  So if this game has open source servers, I may be able to put it forward as a realistic next game for the guild.