Originally posted by Kiern
aren\'t those kind of names not allowed?  That has been bothering me...

yeah, my other account never went through on activation, and when i tried to log in, the default user name in there was \'guest\', which made me wonder if i could make a name like that... maybe i should try \'administrator\' next

Originally posted by windwalker
its rather simple.  If you want to donate art to the PS team then they claim full rights over it because they dont want it showing up in another game.  Its your choise to donate it and fall under there rules, dont like the rules dont donate.  simple

well put, I don\'t think serious developers will donate full rights to their work... it seems common sense to me... if you ever want to compete like linux does with microsoft (that\'s what acraig was reffering to), you have to understand Free Software: something created by the community should be open to the community to work with.

Originally posted by whemyfield
im developing some theme music for planeshift at the moment and really when im done ill probally just donate it to the devs. credit to me isnt really important. if i hear my music in the game thats enough satisfaction to me..

what i disagree with is that if you ever wanted to use this music in any other project, game, etc. You\'d have to ask PS dev\'s for permission.

We\'ve never really had a problem with this. The source code is all under GPL and the art is not. Why is that arrogant? If somebody writes a novel in Open Office are they required to give it away for free? There is a difference between function and content. The functionality of the engine is GPL. The PlaneShift content is not. And I don\'t see us failing anytime soon.

It\'s arrogant because as I see it, you will not be creating a lot of the art.

From the PlanetShift Lisence: \"PlaneShift Team grants to the author of such material the right...\"

This sentance baffled me... YOU are granting the author that donated something to you rights s/he is to have with his/her donation?

Again: \"The [donated] material should not be given to or reused in other games or software products without the express approval of all the members of the PlaneShift Team.\"

If I donate anything to anyone, I expect to keep copyright to my donation, which is not what the PSL says.

I was hoping to see a project where art is created by the creative community, for the creative community, not donated and monolopized by one project. I guess I\'m looking in the wrong place :-p I\'m sorry if I\'m being bold, I know I\'m new :-p

my router dosen\'t like BitTorrent, but it is a great technology. Sourceforge mirrors seems like a good idea too.

what would be nice to make some $ would be to ship out CD\'s for like $5... it\'s a donation/luxury kind of thing :-p

i don\'t think this really needs to be said, and i\'m just stressing the prior, but please, PLEASE, don\'t make ANYTHING filter on the send or transmit stages of chat, only on the recieving end. this makes it client-side customisable. and as far as banning goes, I don\'t think one should be banned just because i (or everyone) dosen\'t agree with them... add filters and individual blocks (easy \'nuff stuff), and we\'re good to go

Is anyone aware of the NeL project? Here\'s a 3rd party review praising it.

I was very interested in creating a project like PlaneShift awhile ago, and NeL seemed like the wisest choice for a MMORPG engine. NeL consists not only of a 3D graphics engine, but also networking, AI, audio and other code necessary for the development of a MMORPG.

Compared to a commercial MMORPG 3D graphics engine like EverQuest, NeL, or so its developers claim, gives artists more flexibility for modeling outdoor settings, with better rendering, and lighting model capabilities. Its major features include:


* A landscape renderer that creates environments with \"patches\" of land,
blending together these sub-divisions with vertex shaders.
* Landscapes that can extend for more than 1 kilometer (0.62 mile) of virtual
distances.
* Physical ground features in the landscape, such as holes in the ground and
tunnels.
* An efficient lighting system for indoor and outdoor environments.
* A traditional indoor portal clipping system.
* Multi-Resolution Mesh (MRM) technology that can automatically scale down
the complexity of a character model to conserve processing power.
* An efficient and powerful special effects manager.
* A large set of interpolators which users can use to animate most model
parameters.
* A Level of Detail (LOD) balancing system that provides the best possible
rendering quality for the number of character models and special effects that
need to be rendered.
* Continuous streaming of textures from the hard disk during the game.


The most impressive (and of course proprietary) project that uses NeL (made by the same people- nevrax) seems to be Ryzom (screenshots).

Looks very nice :-p Almost as nice as PS ;)

Anyway, I hope we\'re not reinventing the wheel. A functioning demo of the NeL system is Snowballs (windows binary in zip)... looks smooth. :)

I\'m not sure what exactly I am proposing, to remake PlaneShift under NeL is rather time-consuming, if not impossible... I guess I just want to know why the developers chose CrystalSpace over the other options availible.