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MTNDEWBUZZ and GM guidlines
« on: February 25, 2005, 02:13:23 am »
Yes, I know this is not a democracy.  And yes, I know all the GMs have been in the Planeshift community for a long time (as have I).  But personally I can\'t for the life of me see anything wrong with the guild name \"MTNDEWBUZZ\".  I\'m sure if you drink enough MTNDEW you will get a buzz, a sugar and caffeine buzz that is, but it?s far from being even a vague reference to illegal drugs.

The admins that Lackatee are referring to are not employees, they are volunteers.  And from personal experience they are doing a fantastic and invaluable job.  A more dedicated group of people would be hard to find.  All that being said, I think that only a very few of them have any experience being on the other side of the ability to ban players.

And that brings me to the topic of my post.  Do the GMs have a decent set of guidelines?

If so I am not sure if even the most common instances of GMdom could be covered.  For example, if I would like to, why can?t I be rude (not obscene, just rude) when someone asks me a question.  I?m a large stone man with two swords.  According to my bio I am an orphan.  I may be role playing or I may just be a jerk.  My point is that just because PS is free, it does not mean ?players? should not be dealt with as professionally as possible.  In order to do so GMs need well defined guidelines and procedures.  There also needs to be a well \"publicized\" recourse to being banned.

The GMs in Planeshift currently have ultimate power and ? , well you all know where that can end up.

P.S.   I am interested in hearing what others think about this subject.  This post is not
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so please do not close this post ? if I am really off base it will die quick enough of loneliness.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2005, 02:23:44 am »
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..I can\'t for the life of me see anything wrong with the guild name \"MTNDEWBUZZ\".  I\'m sure if you drink enough MTNDEW you will get a buzz


Fair enough.

Where, in the Planeshift world is there Mountain Dew? What store sells it? who drinks it?

This is a fantasy medaieval setting. Mountain dew is 100% incompatible with that, which is why it is inappropriate. If you cannot understand why, perhaps you should not be playing a MMPORPG.

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2005, 02:26:31 am »
No, the Planeshift moderators do not believe in allowing discussions of this type around here.  Though I guess I can\'t blame them, seeing as most of the people who visit here are incapable of having them.

So, in other words, this post will definately be locked if not deleted.  There is some rule listed about it I think, just not on the main overview thing.

I would recommend having this type of discussion on a different board (Kada\'s, etc.), because while it is an interesting subject...interesting things aren\'t allowed here. :baby:
« Last Edit: February 25, 2005, 02:27:43 am by Kiern »

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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2005, 02:33:23 am »
A guild name like MTNDEWBUZZ isnt bad but it doesn\'t fit in the rp setting at all. I have no problem with how the gms run this place. The only thing i dont like is how many new people\'s threads are closed with only a link to the search button. GMs should be expected to answer anyones question and I dont think its that hard of a thing to type in a centance answering their question before closing the thread and posting a link to the search button.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2005, 02:42:11 am »
Thanks Ayshe ? I really did not consider the RP aspect.  Possibly that is because of my lack of MMORPG experience.  I was not aware that that was a forum requirement.

But you will then have to respond to Lackatee?s point
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\"Guild names should be unique and well thought out. That short few words is what a potential recruit will first see and if they do not like the name they may overlook the guild completely.\"

I don?t see any medieval requirements there although I can see your point about RPing.  Perhaps that should be made clear on the site.

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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2005, 02:50:38 am »
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Yes, I know this is not a democracy. And yes, I know all the GMs have been in the Planeshift community for a long time (as have I). But personally I can\'t for the life of me see anything wrong with the guild name \"MTNDEWBUZZ\". I\'m sure if you drink enough MTNDEW you will get a buzz, a sugar and caffeine buzz that is, but it?s far from being even a vague reference to illegal drugs.

The admins that Lackatee are referring to are not employees, they are volunteers. And from personal experience they are doing a fantastic and invaluable job. A more dedicated group of people would be hard to find. All that being said, I think that only a very few of them have any experience being on the other side of the ability to ban players.

And that brings me to the topic of my post. Do the GMs have a decent set of guidelines?

If so I am not sure if even the most common instances of GMdom could be covered. For example, if I would like to, why can?t I be rude (not obscene, just rude) when someone asks me a question. I?m a large stone man with two swords. According to my bio I am an orphan. I may be role playing or I may just be a jerk. My point is that just because PS is free, it does not mean ?players? should not be dealt with as professionally as possible. In order to do so GMs need well defined guidelines and procedures. There also needs to be a well \"publicized\" recourse to being banned.

The GMs in Planeshift currently have ultimate power and ? , well you all know where that can end up.

P.S. I am interested in hearing what others think about this subject. This post is not


Just thought id get my two cents in before the thread is closed- im sure GM\'s do have a basic set of outlines, but you\'d have to PM one and ask them.  If a name is realated to real life and not a fantasy setting, then they will probablly change it.  You cannot discuss GM\'s and their actions on these boards (God knows why, but you cant) so PM one to ask them.

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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2005, 03:42:17 am »
You should have read the forums more closely, especially since you\'ve been here for so long.

1) There is a set of rules, it\'s called Rules of Conduct. It\'s even stickied in this very forum. :rolleyes:

2) It explains that names must be RPG style, and that this also applies to guild names

3) It also states that discussions like this are not to be done on these boards. I even know why: because this crap is nothing but GM bashing, or at best it\'s whining. If you have valid arguments, then the devs / GMs will undo the changes. If you don\'t, then no amount of posts on threads like this is going to change anything. In short: it\'s dumb, that\'s why.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2005, 03:43:31 am by Seytra »

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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2005, 04:01:55 am »
Of course it was ousted, it\'s IN ALL CAPS.  AND IS NOT RELATED.  AND MAY EVEN BE AN ADVERTISEMENT.
...Yeah, all caps is evil.
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2005, 04:31:19 am »
Dont argue with the GMs actions(yes I admit to doing it not too long ago though we made up atleast)

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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2005, 05:00:22 am »
i really dont see why the gms have to have a hardcoded set of rules

that will lead to a ton o people finding go arounds for the rules and a whole lot more mess, but if the gms just ban what they think appropriate they can get all the bad stuff

but

you cry\"thats not fair\"

in which you must keep in mind that this is not some online democracy, the gms dont give a rats ass about what you think, and if you make a protest the makes hundreds leave, they still dont give a rats ass because they do this out of passion, not for money, so PS will in no way bend to your whip just because your a player

your not a consumer, your just a cheap somebody with a complaint about something that you have no buisness complaining about
« Last Edit: February 25, 2005, 05:01:39 am by druke »


my how times have changed.....

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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2005, 05:13:50 am »
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in which you must keep in mind that this is not some online democracy, the gms dont give a rats ass about what you think, and if you make a protest the makes hundreds leave, they still dont give a rats ass because they do this out of passion, not for money, so PS will in no way bend to your whip just because your a player  


eh????  They do this because they like it, therefore they dont care?  I would have thought somebody getting paid to do it would care less.  The GM\'s do it because they like the community, because its their passion, as so i would suspect they would care more if a significant nunmber of people were not happy with what was happening.  If hundreds of people left, then they wouldnt have much to be a GM over, would they?  But anyway there isnt a big problem here, because hundreds of people arnt going to leave because someones stupid name got renamed.  Choose a proper name, and forget this.

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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2005, 01:11:55 pm »
As always, these are not suitable discussions for the forum. Mountain Dew has nothing to do with PS so I\'m with whichever GMs are involved. Take your arguments up with them, or deal with it.

You didn\'t know the RP rules existed? The GM told you it did. So deal with it.