Staying with planeshift :)

[Kiern]

Originally posted by zanzibar
If only you\'ve seen what I\'ve seen.

Originally posted by zanzibar
People disagree because of differences in personal experiences.  It happens all the time.

That is not an explanation on how I \"missed your point\" seeing as how I did, in fact, address this exact point.

From what I can tell, this is exactly the \"point\" that I replied to.  You say if someone saw it through your eyes they would have a different opinion on something.  That is of course wrong for the reason I stated right here:

Originally posted by Kiern
And then if you are dealing with opinion rather then fact, two people can see the exact same thing and take a totally different perspective on it.

I also pointed out how people can reach the same conclusion from totally different experiences, which makes the \"if only you\'ve seen what I\'ve seen\" even more useless.  How do you know XyPtZ hasn\'t had the same experiences as yourself?  You don\'t.  Just because he draws a different conclusion from it doesn\'t mean your \"experiences\" will in any way change his mind, it could even make it a stronger opinion for him.

NOTE:  See above for example of an explanation.

EDIT(s):  Changed the post completely and got rid of a few incorrect statements.  Proofreading, it saves lives.

EDIT in reply to below because I don\'t feel like replying anymore:  Oh, that was your point?  Good.  Because I totally just proved it wrong in this post.  Job done.

[zanzibar]

My point is that I\'ve seen clashes of egos which are not best described as \"12 year old squabbles\".

[XpYtZ]

My point is that I\'ve seen clashes of egos which are not best described as \"12 year old squabbles\".

Would \'large bears with burrs up ther collective butts\" be more appropriate.
Sure there are a number of things that give a person valid cause for becoming angry. But most of what I see is people getting their feelings hurt because this or that got deleted, ignored, lambasted...you get the point. I\'m not saying that anyone is \'wrong\' for leaving. I just know that some have left over silly things like: \"She called me a poopy head and deleated two of my 3,000,000 posts. She\'s a bad, person.\" Grow up!
Now if there really is a problem that justifies your leaving, do it. Don\'t stick around and just make problems for everyone, or your self. I\'m sure there are people, Mods and Devs included that just don\'t get along with one another and maby the best thing to do is leave in that situation. There are plenty of other games out there that would love new players. But I\'ve seen a lot of retarded reasons since I got here.

Could you PM me with the names of the individuals involved?

I\'ll have to ask which exactly you are refering to there is a lot in the post...on second thought, no.
There is no need to get into it about the Dev since I\'m sure he just misread his screen, the guilds are dead now anyway and the players were/are \'posers\' anyhow.

[zanzibar]

Originally posted by XpYtZ

My point is that I\'ve seen clashes of egos which are not best described as \"12 year old squabbles\".

Would \'large bears with burrs up ther collective butts\" be more appropriate.
Sure there are a number of things that give a person valid cause for becoming angry. But most of what I see is people getting their feelings hurt because this or that got deleted, ignored, lambasted...you get the point. I\'m not saying that anyone is \'wrong\' for leaving. I just know that some have left over silly things like: \"She called me a poopy head and deleated two of my 3,000,000 posts. She\'s a bad, person.\" Grow up!
Now if there really is a problem that justifies your leaving, do it. Don\'t stick around and just make problems for everyone, or your self. I\'m sure there are people, Mods and Devs included that just don\'t get along with one another and maby the best thing to do is leave in that situation. There are plenty of other games out there that would love new players. But I\'ve seen a lot of retarded reasons since I got here.

Could you PM me with the names of the individuals involved?

I\'ll have to ask which exactly you are refering to there is a lot in the post...on second thought, no.
There is no need to get into it about the Dev since I\'m sure he just misread his screen, the guilds are dead now anyway and the players were/are \'posers\' anyhow.

Fair enough, I see your side of things.

[Sangwa]

I think it would be boring to have a community with always the same players. Or a large community with lots of old players and even more new ones.

I\'m glad some leave, as I\'m glad that some join and as I\'m glad that some stay.
It happens and it is innevitable. And dumbness is as valid a reason as any other.

I\'m glad to say I\'m staying with the whole PS package. With Ego Clashes and Children Squabbles bonus feats included.

[verideon]

Originally posted by Sangwa
I think it would be boring to have a community with always the same players. Or a large community with lots of old players and even more new ones.

I\'m glad some leave, as I\'m glad that some join and as I\'m glad that some stay.
It happens and it is innevitable. And dumbness is as valid a reason as any other.

hmm yeah I think I might agree with that Sangwa. It would be totally boring with all the same members of a forum for a long/medium period. bringing in new people brings in new opinions/topics for use to read about and talk/argue about. while having newbies coming in may bring up topics that have been discussed before may annoy the Mods and bit but what the heck , it happens.

[XpYtZ]

If it\'s true that we are here to help others,  then, what exactly are the others here for???

Eating...?

I see your point entirely Sangwa, even if I don\'t agree with it. People leaving is good since we don\'t get stagnant, yes. I just don\'t like it when they whine about being mistreated or leave in a huff.
Not that I want them to slip quietly out the back door, just...*sigh*...Well, I don\'t like it when people leave with their feelings hurt and if they must then at least let the community go on in peace.
\"Sorry all but it\'s time for me to go.\"
Is about the only thing that I like to see. There are plenty who have left that way and I respect them for it. Most of the \"I\'m leaving because this person did that to me.\" posts don\'t name people, won\'t elaborate on their situation and look like they are just looking for someone to take their side and say \"Oh, poor you. The injustice of it all.\" That, really grates me, and their inability or unwillingness to name anyone for \'honors\' sake is a load of crap. They would not have brought it up if they were not trying to draw attention to it.

[Keyaz]

I\'m leaving.

someone looked at me funny   X(


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no I can\'t do it! >.<

please love me again I missed you too much!  ;(


erm... yeah... *flee*

[Sangwa]

Well, I don\'t like it when people leave with their feelings hurt and if they must then at least let the community go on in peace.

I understand. I wasn\'t paying attention to that issue. It\'s always negative when someone gets its feelings hurt, and it rarely afflicts only one person.
There is, however, not much we can do about it. But I guess every little effort might help in a way.