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« Reply #45 on: November 01, 2005, 11:01:10 am »
I guess you would have to know me in RL Shami... Yes I am a very opinionated person, and the fact is that I constantly am involved with politics... which is really a love hate relationship.  I hate politics though I find myself always getting involved in it :P.  And, I am 23, which when I talk about how bad President Bush has been for our country, all I can say is his father was a better pres along with Clinton.. so Bush jr is the worst president that I have been alive for.  

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However, the fact still remains that other presidents have gotten us into situations worse than this. Like when we went into Vietnam; there were a ton of casualties that they didn\'t even TELL us about.


Yes of course there have been worse decisions.. but you dont see any similarities between Iraq and Vietnam?  My college history professor, who was in Vietnam, took plenty of time in our \"A history of Vietnam\" class to tell us the scary similarities.. and if it is anything like Vietnam then I want no part in it.

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Do you believe in this war? Or do you think our soldiers are wasting their lives, fighting for what they believe in?


No I do not believe in this war.  Though I do not believe the soldiers are wasting their lives, I believe the President is wasting their lives.  How can you justify something like that?  Go into a country on trumped charges and to lose your son or daughter :(.  But what I really dont like is how the military in the USA has become a pawn to the President.. and since they are he uses them as he sees fit :(.

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« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2005, 06:00:29 pm »
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Perhaps I\'m stupid but I don\'t even understand this comment.  What are you even talking about? And someone agreed? I\'m really confused.  If you meant energy, then you are wrong - where the energy comes from is relevant - hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, fossile fuels are far from that and they exist only on earth (as far as we know - we still havn\'t found life on any other planet and fossile fuels require life to occur).  So why is that a hoax? A promising technology that could reduce dependance on the limited fossil fuel supply or completely eliminate - a technology that doesn\'t pollute the environment?   Sounds terrible!  Seriously though, whats the problem with it?


1.  It is not cost effective.
2.  Is not energy efficient.
3.  Would require a complete industry to be created to support its function.
4.  Not reliable.

Those are the first four off the top of my head.  :)
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« Reply #47 on: November 01, 2005, 06:19:51 pm »
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Do you believe in this war? Or do you think our soldiers are wasting their lives, fighting for what they believe in?


What do you think the soldiers believe?  Soldiers are told to go to war, their only other option is to be brought up on charges.  They fight, because that is what they have to do.  They are told some line of bs about how this war is necessary and good and right and justified and then they load up and get shipped off.  If they are lucky they will return and can retire and live out there lives.  If not, they die in combat, their families suffer, and do you know the reason why?  Because the President said so.  

Good enough for you?

If someone told you to walk into the middle of a busy intersection would you do it because that person said to?  Probably not, yet our soldiers (our brothers and sisters, sons and daughters, fathers and mothers) get sent to their deaths because someone sitting in an office said it should be done.  Hell they don\'t even get to die on their own soil, in the arms of their loved ones.  They don\'t get to say goodbye.  Some of them don\'t even get to see their children being born.  They don\'t get to come home at night and kiss their kids, wives, husbands, goodnight.  No bedtime stories for them.  No birthdays.  No graduations.  No weddings.

Have you paid attention to all the little flags and banners and t-shirts being worn, or paraded on vehicles or put up as posters?  They say \"Support our Troops\"  \"Pray for our Soldiers\"....  They never say \"Pray for our children\" \"Support our Parents\" and so on.  It is so much easier to disconnect when they are soldiers or troops.  It is much easier to justify the fact that they are being sent to die for a pointless and fruitless cause.  If we were constantly reminded that the soldier who just died, for absolutely no reason other than the whim of the President, was your neighbors son, or daughter or the father or mother of your childs friend, etc, we would be putting up a hell of an argument to get them back.

Contrary to popular opinion, disagreeing with your government leaders is not unpatriotic.  Bush should be held accountable, but the American people won\'t do it, because they\'ve become complacent.  The rest of the government won\'t do it becuase they are too busy bickering over petty issues.  And Bush won\'t admit to it and back down himself, because well...why should he?  Out of decency?  Respect?  Honor?  Common courtesy?   He will never admit he sent 2000 children to their death for no reason, and that doesn\'t count the children of other nations that died because of his influence.
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« Reply #48 on: November 01, 2005, 07:57:12 pm »
Wow Askr, I dont think I could have put it better myself.  Hmm I think that settles everything on that issue.  Im speechless to a point on how sadly accurate that is to me.

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« Reply #49 on: November 01, 2005, 08:28:21 pm »
:) I agree with Askr 100% and Amen to his statment! I could not have put it better.

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