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tyhvor

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Right-clicking with One-button mouse on Mac
« on: June 20, 2006, 03:09:46 pm »
Hi,

I have a quick, and probably easy question. Trying to modify the shortcut windows in Planeshift, I read you have to right-click to edit or create a new one. But trying to hold down the Control-key while clicking does not seem to help, not holding down alt or the Apple key either.

Anyone who knows how to edit the shortcut buttons using a one-button mouse?
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Re: Right-clicking with One-button mouse on Mac
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2006, 05:52:06 pm »
 To do it manually open planeshift folder then data then options. control click shortcutcommands.xml. chose open with other then find and click on TextEdit.

 So you know  what to type my first 3 look like this.

 <shortcuts>
    <shortcut0 name="Stuck">/unstick</shortcut0>
    <shortcut1 name="Greet">/greet</shortcut1>
    <shortcut2 name="Help">/advisormode on</shortcut2>

 Good luck.
Glad to help.

tyhvor

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Re: Right-clicking with One-button mouse on Mac
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2006, 01:11:14 pm »
Thanks, that worked ok  :thumbup:

It seems control + clicking does not work at all in the game so far. Hasn't been a big problem so far though.
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Re: Right-clicking with One-button mouse on Mac
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2006, 10:07:21 pm »
Yeah, there are very few people who use a one-button mouse.  It's really not the best of ideas.  Sorry, but you really should just go buy a cheap real mouse.  You can get by without it, but computers just aren't designed to work like that anymore.

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Re: Right-clicking with One-button mouse on Mac
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2006, 12:40:32 pm »
Only the new mac (Intel based) provide a mouse with multiple buttons in standart.

I though applications with dongles were over. PS is one only program running on mac I know that need to buy an extra hardware to fully work. Other, even games, have a way to provide a cheap right click, usualy control-click.

Here is some Apple recomandations on how to port a Windows application's user interface as PS to Mac:
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Porting/Conceptual/win32porting/Articles/userinterface.html

This issue has recurent complaints, IMHO, it should be fixed in some way to stop the flow.

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Re: Right-clicking with One-button mouse on Mac
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2006, 01:40:36 pm »
Hi,

I have a quick, and probably easy question. Trying to modify the shortcut windows in Planeshift, I read you have to right-click to edit or create a new one. But trying to hold down the Control-key while clicking does not seem to help, not holding down alt or the Apple key either.

Anyone who knows how to edit the shortcut buttons using a one-button mouse?


Greetings, tyhvor!

There is an In-Game way to get the Mac OS X Client of PlaneShift Crystal Blue (0.3.014), to respond to Control-Click of an Apple one-button mouse, when a Right-Click is expected...

Launch the Mac OS X Client and then wait until you are inside the PS Game with your character...

1.  Click on the Options Icon - it's the 2nd large icon in from the top left corner of the screen
2.  If  + Controls | + Graphics | + Sound | + PvP | + Interface   are the only options you see:
     Click on the "+" beside "Controls" to expand that menu
3.  Click on "Mouse" which should highlight
4.  If  + Selection | + Camera   are the only options you see:
     Click on the "+" beside "Selection" to expand that menu
5.  Click on "ContextMenu" which should highlight
6.  Move the pointer over the small "set" button in the highlighted area
     Press down the Control key and hold then click on the "set" button and release the Control key

     You should now see "Ctrl+Left" appear in the highlighted area between ContextMenu and "set" button

     Move the pointer down to the bottom left corner and CLICK "SAVE" ...!!

This will now give you Right-Click functionality anywhere in-game with Control-Click of your Apple one button mouse
- anywhere except in the Shortcuts Button Menu.

Janner in his reply to your post showed you how to change and add shortcuts there.

- running PlaneShift Mac OS X Tiger (10.4.11) Client, on an Apple iMac G5 2GHz PowerPC processor, 2GB DDR SDRAM, an ATI Radeon 9600 graphics card with 128MB VRAM, a 20-inch active-matrix LCD widescreen display, and a 250GB Serial ATA hard drive... so what's your excuse, huh?

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Re: Right-clicking with One-button mouse on Mac
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2006, 11:19:47 pm »
Most things are customizable, and there's really no reason for right+click in most instances.  I think the only things that get you are setting shortcuts and bringing up window configs.

Serisouly though, a one-button mouse wasn't considered standard technology a decade ago.  Many applications provide ways to hack past it, and we just... don't.  If you want a built in control+click go bug CS to build it in.  Sorry to break it to you, and it sounds mean, but Macs are not the standard.  (and as was pointed out, even they gave it up with the new intel macs)  Unless you have some serious hand-eye coordination issues, you shouldn't be using a one-button mouse.  Please don't act like we've somehow "failed" or are producing sub-standard software.  We are working with the standards just fine; Mac is just pretending that a mouse like that is standard, and you have to hack a bit to get past it if you really want to put up with it.

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Re: Right-clicking with One-button mouse on Mac
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2006, 01:02:59 pm »
You can't tell you port a sofware if you just support it using a idealistic hardware instead of the real one.

Every software I know except PS are designed to fully work on real mac. PS is certainly designed to work on the computers of the future but you you want to stop the complaints of people unable to understand this view, you should take care of the computers they use in the present.

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Re: Right-clicking with One-button mouse on Mac
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2006, 01:44:10 am »
DaveG doesn't use a mac, so he just Doesn't Understand.

That said, why haven't I fixed it?  Because it's avoidable, and I have other things to do.
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Re: Right-clicking with One-button mouse on Mac
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2006, 05:45:43 pm »
well I geuss that ctrl + click is the easyest way but now I just got a new mouse cuz the G5 one kept on running out of battery  :sorcerer:

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Re: Right-clicking with One-button mouse on Mac
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2006, 12:52:15 pm »
What you can also do is go into System Preferences, then Mouse and Key Board, and set the right side of the mouse as the secondary button.

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Re: Right-clicking with One-button mouse on Mac
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2006, 04:44:38 pm »
well,on my old g4 mac,one button mouse,ive just went into 'options menu' and did just exactly as previous poster said to do.It was obvious,i thought.But then,ive been useing macs for 15 years,im used to finding work arounds.The fact taht PS offers so many workaround is a plus folks.PS is very cool game,esp in that it DOES support macs,(and the price is great,if it doesnt work you get your money back :P)something many have chosen not to do.So kudos to the PS crew,and mac brothers,please dont whine,ask politly and be patient,there is always a way to make things work.
Another plus,my new intel mac works flawlessly with ps,even in rosetta,tho i do hope that PS folks will find time to implement a native version,er,by 'flawlessly' imean it works well,being as it is a post beta demo.And taking that into consideration,this game is awsome. ;D
O,one more thing,if any mac pro doesnt like something,hey,here's your chance,join the PS crew,and fix the prob yourself! \\o//