Got a new Graphics card and im havin toubles

[Gondric]

Hey,
yesterday i got a new Geforce 7600gs and im havin touble with the installation. mi power supply doesnt have the 4 pin power supplier for it. i was wondering if neone knows how big a power supply that can run one of these is. i hav an Iwill xp4-g

http://www.ixbt.com/mainboard/images/barebones-2k3-jul/xp4-g/xp4-g-3-4-sm.jpg

as u can see its small. atm the power supply in it is six centimeters long with a bit sticking out the back reckon i can fit a power supply that has enough power in that space. if not can u switch cases? and how much it cost (roughly)

if noones has ne ideas... well monday im taking it to some computer guys... walk in here make this work walk out. and fingers crossed lol.

[neko kyouran]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817103941

or similar to that.

[Gondric]

yeh its just long...

can they stick as far out the back as they want lol? because there is asoluatlly no room for a bigger supply inside the case

[neko kyouran]

all (nearly anyways) PC power supply units are the same size, unless you were stupid and got a PC that the manufacturer uses non standard size parts, thus only allowing you to use their proprietary parts, thus being able to charge you a boat load when you want to replace something.

If I could see the picture, I would have a better understanding what you mean, but clicking the link, takes me to a page saying I'm forbidden to see that page.

[Gondric]

lol... well just google image search iwill xp4-G its not a regualar computer case its a miniture thing. i got it free so i cant complain. the power supply is definately not the shape of that one u showd me its only 6 cm long not across.

[neko kyouran]

if a standard power supply will not fit, are you sure the video card will?

[Gondric]

i have a nvidia 4400 ti in it already so yes it will (the new one is shorter). neways on mi Battlefield clans forums they said it would cost bout 30 bucks to get someone to switch cases for me so if need be that will happen. i hope not i love mi little case

[neko kyouran]

found time to do a search to try and get what you're talking about.. .  ah, you have a mini.  http://www.hothardware.com/reviews/images/iwill_xp4/back.htm

yeah, those are good for lan parties.  easy transport and stuff.  can be a pain to upgrade though.

proprietary case design so you'll have to go with a power supply made specifically to fit inside those things.  (a quick Google search i did yielded no results to where you can get one.)

Or you can go with a new case and use a standard power supply, but a word of caution to that option as well.  The mobo for the mini may not fit inside a normal case, that being, the connector screw holes on the mini's mobo may not line up with the holes on the case, since the case is designed for standard mobo's, not mobo's made to fit inside mini cases.

Thus, I remake my point on using non standard conforming devices and then trying to upgrade them.

[Gondric]

hmmm a new motherboard... will that change mi computer much? will it be the same machine if i do that?

EDIT: basically im gonna walk in and say make this work... and the computer guys will do what is necessary.

u got ne diagram on where the screws might go in or sumthin
 the motherboard is 26 cm by 19 cm (pretty much)

EDIT 2: link to motherboard pic

http://www.ixbt.com/mainboard/images/barebones-2k3-jul/xp4-g/xp4-g-board.jpg

[neko kyouran]

hmmm a new motherboard... will that change mi computer much? will it be the same machine if i do that?

depends on if you can find a mobo that will accept all the other parts from the mini.
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EDIT: basically im gonna walk in and say make this work... and the computer guys will do what is necessary.

or they will tell you, sorry, we can't.  or maybe, they'll tell you they can but then basically charge you for an entire system upgrade in order to get all the pieces to work with each other......

u got ne diagram on where the screws might go in or sumthin
 the motherboard is 26 cm by 19 cm (pretty much)

EDIT 2: link to motherboard pic

http://www.ixbt.com/mainboard/images/barebones-2k3-jul/xp4-g/xp4-g-board.jpg

www.google.com


my suggestion would be to go talk to your compy buds on monday, but don't be surprised if they tell you something similar.  just wait and see what they say, and take things from there.

[Gondric]

hmm ok then. if i change the mobo will everything still work. im assuming that if it works on one mobo it would work on another...?

[neko kyouran]

the two major areas that could be problematic would be making sure that the new mobo accepts the same CPU and the same RAM that the other mobo takes.  Also, you'd want to make sure that new vid card of yours also was accepted by the new mobo.

or maybe you won't have to worry about it and there will be a power supply upgrade option for the mini, but the research i was doing said that your mini only has a small 200-250 watt power supply in it, indicating that it in computer terms, your mini is old as dirt.  So finding something for that thing may be problematic.

[Gondric]

yeh the earliest date i can find on the system is 2003 so... yeh ive just upgraded it so its pretty good. i got it when it was a peice of 256mb ram 42mb (which i updated to 64mb) vid chip peice of crap. well i want the card to work so they will make the card compatible with mobo and i dunno what a cpu is/does. and the ram we bought off them about 2 months ago i dun see why we wouldnt be able to swap it. neways i gtg to dinner now... thanks for the help