Levrus Dahrenn doesnt Answer me!

[abixalmon]

Levrus Dahrenn - The Magic Shop guy!

I have a quest to take a potion for examination to him!

"Levrus Dahrenn says: ................ What you want me to do with it?"

No matter what i answered he refuses to give me the answer!

I said :
"Examine it"
"check it"
"Examine the potion"
"check the potion"
etc... Hell lots tries!

There were lots of guys there and they told me that the quest worked for them with either "examine it" or "check the potion", but it doesn't work for me! please help me solve this quest! i m really stuck!!! and also i tried to get the potion again but the NPC refuses to give me another potion!

My Name in the game is: Xalmon Abix

[Karyuu]

Do you have any other quests unfinished right now? If you do and they involve Levrus, they may be interfering with one another - try finishing the others first, preferably in the order that you got them.

[abixalmon]

I dont have any quest related to Levrus

[Karyuu]

Are you 100% sure, or is that a guess because you don't know if they'll involve Levrus later?

[Rongar Elani]

Well..., articles are overrated, you know...

[Jeraphon]

Well..., articles are overrated, you know...

Don't listen to this person who has no idea how quests work. Articles are irrelevant, and a lot of people who think they know how things work really don't know, but are perfectly happy to perpetuate their myths and faulty syllogisms. "This is what I saw work, therefore it must be the only way it works." Well, no.

[peeg]

I'm stuck at this point too ... I'm sure i have no other quests that could involve levrus. Any further hints?

[Waylander]

The NPC who sent you to Levrus probably told you exactly what to say.  Look through it (maybe PM me the log), I'm sure you'll find something.

[Rongar Elani]

Well..., articles are overrated, you know...

Don't listen to this person who has no idea how quests work. Articles are irrelevant, and a lot of people who think they know how things work really don't know, but are perfectly happy to perpetuate their myths and faulty syllogisms. "This is what I saw work, therefore it must be the only way it works." Well, no.

Well first of, your aggressive tone was completely unneccessary. Second, the phrase 'check the potion' did not work, neither for him nor for me back then, but for me it worked with 'check potion'. If this has changed since I did the quest I don't know, and actually I don't care either.

Another example where simplicity in quest phrases was NECCESSARY (and this is all I suggested) is the answer to a riddle, where it didn't work when you added ONE single letter. Without giving too much spoiler information... I w**l h**g, did not work, while w**l h**g did.

Want another one? The answer to another riddle: 'Throw the dwarf...' did not work, while 'throw dwarf...' did.

Another one? 2 guards who had trouble with some magical gear...: 'Give me the b******' did not work, while 'give me b*****' did.

Last one for now: 'About pollen ** ****' did not work, while 'about **** p*****' did.

There are plenty of other examples, thus I have learned to just let articles off and to formulate the phrases as simple as possible. Now, since you apparently have an idea on how quests work, let us all know why articles are irrelevant, yet alot of phrases won't work with them, and what was wrong with my suggestion to let them off, that made you attack me straight away.

[Jeraphon]

All articles are completely ignored by the system that reads them. They are thrown away, discarded, and the NPC never even sees them.

Saying "give me x" and "give me the x" are completely identical in the eyes of the NPC. "The" should not make any difference whatsoever.

If you've encountered this problem, PM me the chatlogs. I have no idea how long ago you did these quests.

[Rongar Elani]

Most quests I've done a while back, except for the Pollen quest, which is quite new. But like I said, I'm used to simplicity and without simplicity this particular quest wouldn't have worked. Further, if articles are not anymore recognized by the system, which they aren't - now - what was the big deal of telling me, that I have NO idea  on how quests work, especially since I've done almost all of them multiple times with many characters. If articles are irrelevant, why even bother to point this out, since it does work with and without them?

Right now I'm not much into quests anymore, but not long ago I was, and I have spent alot of time finding the correct phrases, which only slightly differentiated from the incorrect ones, be it through usually neccessary articles or pronouns or whatever, so don't tell me I have no clue on how quests (used to) work.

[Jeraphon]

Most quests I've done a while back, except for the Pollen quest, which is quite new. But like I said, I'm used to simplicity and without simplicity this particular quest wouldn't have worked. Further, if articles are not anymore recognized by the system, which they aren't - now - what was the big deal of telling me, that I have NO idea  on how quests work, especially since I've done almost all of them multiple times with many characters. If articles are irrelevant, why even bother to point this out, since it does work with and without them?

Because you're telling someone not to use articles, when they can. A lot of changes in quests have been made, and frankly I'm sick and tired of old players assuming that nothing's changed but telling newer players stories about their own perceptions that may have been true months or possibly years ago but are now false.

abixalmon, if "check the potion" didn't work, send me a log, as well as the names of any other quests you had at the time, because that sounds very much like a conflict.