Author Topic: Betting the farm. [Guildhouse Event]  (Read 4121 times)

Raa

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Re: Betting the farm. [Guildhouse Event]
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2007, 04:38:12 am »
[Y'know, I could always make a 32-sided die out of clay, take a picture, and post it here. Shouldn't be too hard. :P If it's possible, then it works!]

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Re: Betting the farm. [Guildhouse Event]
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2007, 08:56:37 am »
[Generally, raffles are pulled out of a tophat. Tophats are not implimented yet. xD  Anyways, you can only do so much with game mechanics the way they are. It was stated to be a 'special' die. There are a lot of them out there. Ya just whisper to them how many sides you want them to have, and throw. ;) ]

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Re: Betting the farm. [Guildhouse Event]
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2007, 02:48:45 pm »
[Well there are only something like 25 regular polyhedrons, if you had wanted to stick with the dice theme you could have rolled an 8-sider and a 4-sider, forms we know can exist. Either use the 4-sider to generate how many 8's to add to the 8-sider roll (0,1,2 or 3) or vice versa. Other numbers might take more effort to come up with a method.

Let me be clear I am not taking issue with using the roll dice feature of the game, I just thought you might dress it up to make it more in context. I do not care how special your dice are it is just not possible to have an object with an arbitrary number of sides be a "fair die"

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The full geometric set of "uniform fair dice" (face-transitive) are:

    * Platonic solids: 5 regular polyhedra: (4, 6, 8, 12, 20 sides)
    * Catalan solids: 13 Archimedean duals: (12, 24, 30, 48, 60, 120 sides)
    * Bipyramids: infinite set of prism duals, triangle faces: (6, 8, 10, 12, ... sides)
    * Trapezohedrons: infinite set of antiprism duals, kite faces: (6, 8, 10, 12, ... sides)
    * Disphenoids: infinite set of tetrahedra made from congruent non-regular triangles (4 sides)
    * "Rolling-pin style dice" (also called "rolling logs" [3]) are the only way to make dice with an odd number of faces[4]. They are based on an infinite set of prisms. All the (rectangular) faces they may actually land on are congruent, so they are equally fair. (The other 2 sides of the prism are rounded or capped with a pyramid, designed so that the dice never actually rests on those faces.)
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I suppose, having looked at the quote I posted  and some other links, I really have to withdraw my objection. Perhaps some day gem cutters will be able to make sets of dice for all occasions.
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Re: Betting the farm. [Guildhouse Event]
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2007, 03:59:56 pm »
Not to mention that rolling 1 die of 32 sides and many smaller dice do not share the same probabilities. Many dice favor higher numbers to the detriment of lower ones. They make it impossible for poor number 1 to win (unless each die has a "0" side, which actually makes it possible that nobody wins).

So, let's better not dwell on this rather peripheral detail. The raffle was transparent and well run. Congratulations to the winning guild and to all happy guildhouse owners out there. And kudos to the Settings team for always thinking of new ways to introduce content and novelties in the game. Keep it up!


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Re: Betting the farm. [Guildhouse Event]
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2007, 12:41:18 am »
Good show.

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Re: Betting the farm. [Guildhouse Event]
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2007, 04:36:03 pm »