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Orgonwukh

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Re: Communication (or lack thereof)
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2008, 01:23:02 am »
I propose to create a bot who posts this message on forums every hour: "Sorry, guys. There is no news about the server yet."
Seriously: I, myself, check the thread about the server status daily, and I have to skip dozens of posts about hypothesis why the server might be down. I think the confusion and is caused by all the ideas/hypothesis/gossip about the reasons for downtime. A thread where only someone responsible could post would be better. So people could check this thread to see if there is any news.

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Re: Communication (or lack thereof)
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2008, 10:38:04 am »
Im usually more often on the forum and could mostly keep up with the posts, but this idea (along with similar ones) sounds helpful
Also, thanks to Rizin for the updates!   :sorcerer:

* Sen starts a discussion thread about what Fragnetics should do better
Just kidding - I hope no one will do that  ;D

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Re: Communication (or lack thereof)
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2008, 10:50:10 am »
Many thanks to Xordan and other members of the dev team that are working with Fragnetics.

Updates are being posted here: http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=33501.150

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Re: Communication (or lack thereof)
« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2008, 05:42:45 pm »
Quote
I propose to create a bot who posts this message on forums every hour:
Better still make it an opt-in mailbot so only those obsessive few need be bothered with it.

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Re: Communication (or lack thereof)
« Reply #34 on: September 06, 2008, 05:51:55 pm »
In all seriousness, I have a script that can A. ping, and B. attempt to connect to a given port to determine if a service is available and send e-mail notifications when it goes down, every <insert time interval here>, and again when it comes back up... In case anyone truly does want something like this...

[EDIT] Before people start thinking i am obsessed with PS... well... anyways... I have that script for my JOB... to monitor the servers I am responsible for maintaining.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2008, 05:54:05 pm by Mythryndel »

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Re: Communication (or lack thereof)
« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2008, 08:43:58 pm »
heh, can you just call me when it comes back up? I don't need to know it is still down, just when back up.. he he heh


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Re: Communication (or lack thereof)
« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2008, 10:38:38 pm »
Make the first (sticky) thread in the Server Status forum the authoritative one.  Lock it so that it doesn't fill up with pages of commentary, and update as often as something is known.  Move the Server Status forum up into the Announcements section of the forums.  When things are running normally, change the post to say that this is where the latest info will be posted in the event of extended outages.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES!  ;)  I think the updates we got were frequent enough.  There was enough information.  What I wish, though, was that we could have an 'official' thread with ONLY useful information from the devs/team/etc, plus another thread for random ruminations/conversation from the playerbase.  What we were told, I believe, was really fine.  I just think it got a bit hard to sort out, and if there was an official thread vs. an unofficial one, it would have been easier to sort out rumor from fact.

Otherwise, though, here are my two trias.

I do think, though, that Mythryndel has a point.  The communication on this subject did get a bit combative.  The players got a bit antsy, and some WERE downright rude.  Some deserved to be told to stop acting like children, etc.  Some, though, were just understandably trying to be helpful.  They may not have, in the end, BEEN helpful, but their intentions were right.  It did feel at times as though the devs/mods were a bit snippy over the (often misguided) good intentions of the players.

This is entirely understandable.  Being asked, as Loltira put it, "are we there yet?" over and over IS irritating.  I know this from my own experiences as a MUX admin.  However, it's important for staff members to keep their irritation in check whenever possible.  Now, I don't believe for a moment that anything the mods or devs have said or done during this "crisis" has been anything terribly out of line.  I just think that tempers seemed to run a little hot on both sides, and BOTH sides (especially the players) should really have been more willing to sit back, relax, and just wait this out.

The only difference is that the devs/mods are in a perceived position of power and authority.  Thus, the players are looking to them (however haphazardly) to take a leadership role in sorting all this out.  Even if there's no official "answer" or "solution" to the problem, this sort of thing is a great time for community leadership.  In the future, perhaps there might be some options as to how that might be handled.

In the end, there's no one "answer" to how to make good communication, just a lot of theories.  I think that, even outside of "crisis moments" like this, the community here could work on being better communicators, coming off as less harsh and judgmental, etc.  There are a hundred ways to do it, and I think we can all figure out most of them on our own.  Never posting in irritation or anger is one very good idea.

Also, people (not just devs/mods) coming up with little solutions or ideas to get people's minds off the trouble could help.  Heck, maybe we could even arrange to meet on a MU* somewhere and /me at each other until our fingers fall off.  ;)  The main thing, though, is just to try to be a community--not just a forum full of people shouting at each other.

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Re: Communication (or lack thereof)
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2008, 06:38:17 am »
Guess what I did tonight and last night and the night before that. I spent extra time with my girlfriend and wasn't in a rush at the end of the night to get home to ps. Take a series of unfortunate events or in this case a single event (server being down) and really helped improve my relationship even more with her.

At the end of the night I come home and check the server, still down....more time with her tomorrow night. I might even hang up some clothes for a change instead of neglecting that choir to play ps. I encourage everyone to take this time to take care of things that need to be done instead of constantly monitoring the server. That way when it does come back up you want have to put off things because they will already be done.   :thumbup:

It will be up soon enough and I look very forward to when it is, but until then...rl 

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Re: Communication (or lack thereof)
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2008, 05:18:59 pm »
See, not sitting around and waiting for PS to come back gets you some :P
Scuzzle, you are an example to us all!