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Vannaka

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Re: Is Xmass only for American ?
« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2008, 02:49:19 am »
I don't have any idea what is going on.  Someone's been having a merry Christmas they probably won't remember...
But really now, people spend hours and hours working to become a powerful mage, a great warrior, an esteemed craftsman.  People spend day in and day out working toward a guild house.  Other people log into planeshift for the first time ever, and find a mad goddess maxing their stats and giving them unimaginable fortunes in the form of valuable government owned real estate?  Wonderful.

you want to see better and more gm events apply to the gm team stop making threads like this telling them you dont liike what they are doing till you have walked a month in their shoes. Threads like this will not help you get anything changed unless you help the team.
I'd love to help the team, sign me up... oh wait... i'm old enough to vote, get married, play with firework, fight and die in a war (if i so choose)....  but as for being a GM for planeshift, still to young.  Would love to help, just can't.
Does it really matter, though? Everything is going to be wiped eventually, regardless of how much time you did or didn't put into your game/character. Less QQ, more test.

Obviously it does matter, or people wouldn't be reading this.
Everyone's definition of 'fair' and what is a 'disgrace' is very much different. I don't think that is is 'fair' that I would have had to spend my few hours of play time a week grinding steady for about five years doing something I hate just to get the character I want to play the role of. I find this thread complaining that some people 'got ahead' of others to be the disgrace in that people will whine and complain whenever they think someone else is getting more than them.

I, for one, never feel bad when someone is given something more. That gives them more time to do more worthwhile things. Honestly, if I spent a year leveling up and three weeks grinding to get a guildhouse, then one was just given away the next day, I would not bitch and complain about it. I would slap the lucky guy on the back and say "Thank GOD you did not have to go through the same crap I did."

Some people want to take the elevator. Others are proud to say they took the stairs. Some even get dropped off by helicopter. But in the end, when all things come together, the view from the top is still the same.
You have my total respect, Utm, however I have to disagree.  It seems to me that you don't think it matters if the event was fair or not, but come on, this is a game!  Don't you have enough unfairness in real life?  For many people the competitive nature of gaming is very enjoyable (yes i realize roleplaying doesn't require being competitive), and in order for competition to be fun it has to be fair.  Telling a guild that raised 6 million trias for an auction they aren't allowed to bid, and then a few days later giving away the unsold house for free to another guild isn't fair.  I can get over that however, if there was something they did to earn/win/deserve the house besides being in the right place at the right time.  I don't know all of the guilds that got houses, or all of the people that had stats raised, but I know one of the free houses (no less the exact house the guild with 6 mill wanted to buy) was given to a guild that I HAVE NEVER SEEN OR HEARD OF IN 10 MONTHS OF PLANESHIFT before last week.
I love the elevator and stairs analogy, but with all due respect, I'll be taking the emergency exit.
Unfortunately (and fortunately) I like a lot of the people I've met in planeshift, so i'll still be around to chat.  As for leveling... or playing the game... i guess it doesn't matter, I'll just make sure to spend next Christmas with harnquist instead of my family.

[edit]: After talking to someone in game, i'm informed that the guild recieving a free house is, in fact, a brand new guild.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2008, 03:03:17 am by Vannaka »
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Re: Is Xmass only for American ?
« Reply #31 on: December 26, 2008, 03:15:42 am »
you want to see better and more gm events apply to the gm team stop making threads like this telling them you dont liike what they are doing till you have walked a month in their shoes. Threads like this will not help you get anything changed unless you help the team.
I'd love to help the team, sign me up... oh wait... i'm old enough to vote, get married, play with firework, fight and die in a war (if i so choose)....  but as for being a GM for planeshift, still to young.  Would love to help, just can't.

There are other teams you can join that have lower age limits [as low as 18].

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Re: Is Xmass only for American ?
« Reply #32 on: December 26, 2008, 03:16:57 am »
I am honestly finding it pathetic that people are quitting over this. Why? Well, I'll ask you a few simple questions.

How is this going to change how you play?

Is the guildhouse they gave away going to block your path so you can't take your shortcut anymore?

Are the free levels going to make your training cost more?

Is someone else having higher levels in an instant rather than over three weeks of PLing going to change the way you play your chosen role?

Does this change how you would play AT ALL?

Get a grip.

You are all seriously starting to sound like my 3 and 5 year old nephews when they come over and start arguing over who gets the bigger piece, who has the first turn with the toy, or -worst of all- when one complains that the other got a different toy as a present. Well, guess what? The one who does not fight, cry and complain gets the bigger piece. The other other has a time out.

Enjoy what you have. You would not be playing PS if you did not enjoy some of it. If you want to throw that away in some lame and silly 'taking a stand' against 'unfairness', be my guest. You are not punishing me or others who keep playing, as I will still be here enjoying PS in my own way, as will many many others who don't care who got a free cookie by being the 1000th visitor to the store. The only ones you will be punishing are your friends and yourself.

As for 'fair' and everyone having the same opportunity and having to do the same exact thing and get the same exact virtual crap, you can keep it. 'Fair' is a static game where no one can 'get ahead', no one can become something that everyone else can't be. In a 'fair' game, you don't matter. I would rather play an unfair game.

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Re: Is Xmass only for American ?
« Reply #33 on: December 26, 2008, 03:47:28 am »
philosophically your correct. IN reality your opinion has no merit

I feel sorry for your reality, then. Envy and jealousy are nasty things to have to live with.

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I am honestly finding it pathetic that people are quitting over this

Growing discontent over time
The distance between PS team and players/testers is widening. There are differences that are not settled even after years has elapsed in development.

Mismatch of expectations
If players are whining about something, the PS team needs to listen up, or risk losing them. Similarly, if the PS team apparently continues to take the same decisions players don't like, it means players are not able to get their points through. Maybe either they don't speak it at all, or they don't speak it well. One more possibility is thread locking and deletion, I'd not touch on that territory here.

This particular case
If Mouli has decided to raise an issue in the complaints department, there must be a reason for him to do so. Instead of trying to label him as a crybaby, there should be an honest attempt to read his mind. Why does he think he didn't receive his fair share? Why does he feel ignored because he doesn't live in America? Some of it is fairly easy to do - just find out all the "random events" that have happened so far and notice their timings. As simple as that.

Is someone going to do it?

Looking for solutions
While players should understand that if there are no developers or GMs, there would be no PS; the Developer+GM team should also understand that if there are no players there would be no PS. The onus lies on both of them.

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Re: Is Xmass only for American ?
« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2008, 03:59:18 am »
All of that was explained ingame. Sorry to those who didn't get anything, congrats to those who got something.

Thanks to UtM and Caarrie I think everything relevant is said. If you feel mistreated for another unmentioned reason you feel is important you can contact me on IRC or via forum pm.


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Re: Is Xmass only for American ?
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2008, 09:01:36 pm »
This was definitely done during a timezone more friendly to Europe than the Americas.

Don't be sad because you missed out, be happy for those who got to see the goddess. . .