Cities in PS

[sariel]

Been fooling around in the world files, seeing if I can create some minor addition to the world (seeing as it\'s fairly small right now).
What I saw I really didn\'t like too much......a HUGE xml file, with no apparent useful data.... From what I gathered though, was that each single point in the game was written down there, down to the exact (6 digit decimal or something) position in the game relative to some point. That kind of discouraged me, as it seems to be an impossible way to build anything unless you have at least 5 years of time to spare to build a single house....

Is there some kind of program which lets you build the world using some gui, or another way than using notepad/ultraedit?

Sar

[Moogie]

I don\'t think any information would be useful to you, as most data is stored on the server so that all players are running around in the same world. Map editing isn\'t really an option.

[dorbian]

that would be like changing the skins your the only one to see it if you would be in a house that you placed in the middle of the plaza you would be there and other people would just walk trough the walls ( kinda funny let\'s try )

so it would be really useless funny but useless.

[Grakrim]

I think some map editors will save to CS\' XML format.  For more information, read the CS Documentation.

[sariel]

Nah, it was to create a brand new city and stuff, just to be able to see if it\'s possible and all.
I just wanted to make something, as the current world for PS is so very small. There\'s a single town (can\'t really call it a city yet), a dungeon, two towers and that\'s about it.
And maybe (doubtful, but maybe) it would be added to the game itself.

Sar

[Caldazar]

Well, if you want to create something, theres the treecastle project

[acraig]

The maps are created in a seperate 3D application ( like 3DSMax ) and we have a set of scripts/export functions that convert the Max file to Crystal Space\'s native map file format ( which is .xml based ).

We will have a custom tool that will allow you to create maps but this is a long time off since it\'s a real bugger to do.

[kronon]

Okey bash me if I\'m wrong but I think I know how to make new maps the \"easy way\"

crystal space has support for converting files from the following programs

List of programs
- Quake
- HalfLife
- QuarK
- WorldCraft
- Maya
- Milkshape
- 3DS
 
This the list I got from crystal space.

planeshift uses crystal space maps so this should work I think.
Don\'t know anything about the engine part though (maybe it uses the same files maybe it doesn\'t).

[Skain]

*looks at kronon lopsidedly* your the first person ive ever told to go do something and whos actually done it. (im bradiel the guy who told u to go look on crystal space site)

Is he right? can u guys?

[kronon]

Well at least I can \"play\" planeshift map files with crystal space walktest. This is a program with wich you can walk on the serface of the 3d model.
You can\'t warp to other places though (you can\'t get in the temple etc). That is a ps thing.

Ohh a side node. Ofcourse the map won\'t work online as the server doesn\'t know your map. They should have a version of yours to make that work. And of course it should get integrated. But well I don\'t think they will like it when every one hands in an half build bad looking map and that you would expect them to use it;).

P.S. Yeah a strange fealing, that listening to other people;).

[acraig]

Originally posted by kronon
Well at least I can \"play\" planeshift map files with crystal space walktest. This is a program with wich you can walk on the serface of the 3d model.
You can\'t warp to other places though (you can\'t get in the temple etc). That is a ps thing.

Walktest is Crystal Space\'s main demo app to show off a lot of what it can do.  It can load any map and move around in it ( no person just a free camera ).  Since PlaneShift uses the Crystal Space format for maps it makes sense that walktest can load them.  I use walktest a fair bit when checking things out in maps.
It only shows the static map data though so no items/NPCs/etc.

If you want to get the portals to work in walktest you need to load all the maps.  The temple is in a different map so you need to load them all at once.  So something like ( replace with right map names! ):

walktest map1.zip map2.zip map3.zip

should load several maps and have the portals working properly.

[kronon]

ahh that I why I get so many loadin errors
I\'ll try that:)
Btw. What is the podium used for? It\'s just some kind of platform in a undeap hole.

Edit: Hmm I still have to get used to my new keyboard...

[Kiva]

I doubt it\'s finished yet, but I remember someone telling me you start your character development down there in CB (stats, jobs, etc.) Not sure though. I might be wrong.

[acraig]

Originally posted by kronon
Btw. What is the podium used for? It\'s just some kind of platform in a undeap hole.

Podium is one of our test maps that we use.  It is a nice small map that we can load quickly when we want to test things.   It\'s is not used much now since we have another test map that is a bit bigger and has some more room to place items and NPCs to do tests with.

[Kiva]

You\'re probably right acraig, but still I remember someone telling me that it was to be used for character stuff.. Oh well, I might just remember wrong.