Crystals replaced later?

[Fallen Angel]

I really haven\'t posted for a while but some good ideas are circulating and I would like to make a point about the Bank idea:

Someone mentioned that if other people already have weapons/armour etc. they will feel sad/left out/whatever but isn\'t that always the way? Other online games that are remotely like PS continuously have new players and as always they will never start as good as older players so what is the problem with older players getting an advantage? - this is not just to get me an advantage mind you I haven\'t played in months...

All other ideas are sounding good and valid and should be considered but I think older players should have a reward  - they spend their time collecting crystals -  helping the developers by testing the game, in essence - and for dedicating their time they should, at the very least, have their names recorded somewhere or something.

Maybe once this thread has been examined and discussed some more until more possible solutions have been suggested the developers could create a poll, a poll that that would make clear just how many people expect rewards, how many dont mind, dont want one etc. and maybe even a poll that includes the suggestions to see what sort of thing people would like - this stage of the game is just as, if not more important than any other and just HAS to be recognised.

Here\'s an idea of my own, not a great one, not one that will require alot of work (I think): Why not just create a memorial statue/thing with a plaque or something of the like to mention a phrase like this:

\"This plaque, the Plaque of Dedication, commemorates the hard work of the early cyrstal collecters and has helped make this region what it is today\"

One plaque, for everyone that plays, has played and will play the world\'s foremost RPG.

[GeorgeD]

Originally posted by Drilixer
I still don\'t think anyone deserves a reward... the reward for the game should be that you are allowed to even play it, that it is free, and that you are allowed to participate/contribute to it...

We have to remember that there are MANY games where none of those standards are met!

Amen.

Originally posted by Isgrimnur In addition you have also got to remember that there are a lot of people who do not play in-game much but are extremely active in the forums and guilds and make a contribution to the game in that way.

How would these people be rewarded??

I\'ll try to state my opinion just combining these two posts together: agree with the DB wipeout with no rewards when CB will be released. And if devs will want to erase the database during updates, fine by me. After all they will test the skill system, ballancing everything out, which means (at least I think it means) that there might be some major changes in the character creation process. As for the rewards, why now? Isn\'t it too early? I mean, this is just a pre-alpha?! If the devs start rewarding people now, the whole system will get pretty complicated with each new release to come. There will be new people who spend a lot of their time playing CB release. They should be added to the reward scheme too then.

I agree with Drilixer, you can simply contribute to this game to get your reward. Because then you can always say:\"I have participated on making this model/setting/quest/music.\"
Won\'t that be nice?
And it will save the devs time instead of wasting it. (We want this game to be finished, don\'t we?)
And as for Isgrimnurs\' remark:
You can loose your in-game character, the inventory. But you won\'t loose your name/reputation, your friends. Either in-game or here. If you stick to this game and to this community long enough, you will survive all DB wipeouts.

Well, I don\'t play the game often enough, nor do I post here, but what the heck. At least I can contribute to the game.

Hmmm, this must be my post-lenght record...

EDIT: OMG, I have just become a cool newbie! Imagine that :rolleyes:

[Xordan]

I have to say that I dont think players should get any reward which gives them a unfair advantage over new player who start in crystal blue. Maybe summin which shows that they\'ve been with the game for ages, like a title in their charicter profile or summin but nothing more. I don\'t mind losing all my crystals if it means that crystal blue will be released quicker.

[Fallen Angel]

Yes, the thing is I don\'t care if the developers do nothing to reward oldies (although my heart would warm to see greats like Kada, Havena etc. and maybe the top guilds rewarded my being mentioned somewhere nice in game - like the starting area for newbies to the game or in a nice happy field of flowers, or the town square...but I am getting  carried away...lol) resulting in CB comng out even 1 day before it is supposed to. Every day is one day closer to when the PS world is created fully - isn\'t it worth making that day come closer, faster?

Despite my unbelievable craving to see what the devs have done so far and my want that older players are remebered it would be absolutely AMAZING to see the next version/ update or whatever come out on deadline or even before!

[kronon]

I don\'t think an real award would be apropriat for long time players. It\'s unfair and if they would make an amulet than they had to write extra code (game speed decrese) add tables to database (server performance decrese) just for and extra type of amulet.
On the other side I beleave that it would be an good idea to let players keep there stuff. If posible. If some items make it imposible than replace them with other items ( crystals become gold or something).
Changing an database to a new format can bedone by scripting. I have made some php/mysql queries and know it can work. Just 1 day extra work.
Still if they realy want to reward players than the best way is to name parts of places after them. They would be there any way, so there wouldn\'t be any real extra work to name places after people.

[Ineluke]

Originally posted by Drilixer
I still don\'t think anyone deserves a reward... the reward for the game should be that you are allowed to even play it, that it is free, and that you are allowed to participate/contribute to it...

We have to remember that there are MANY games where none of those standards are met!

Not everyone has the time/skills to contribute.
Planeshift (as I am sure you are fully aware) is a large project and very time consuming. Even if time were not a factor not everyone can code or make art.
So they do what they can by testing.
Testers are contributing to this project as much as any dev dispite what you may think.
How would you release the game ever without a large group of people to test it on.
Even though we may not sling code or write music or do artwork we still contribute.
We simply want aknowledgment of that.

Thats just my opinion though.

[Xordan]

Testers are contributing to this project as much as any dev dispite what you may think.

No, not really. Without the devs, it wouldn\'t exist, without the testers... the game continues to be made.]

How would you release the game ever without a large group of people to test it on.

Easy, look at all the other PC games in existance.